Admin
|
God Does Not Speak Into the Dialectic Mind
Posted : 30 Dec, 2012 10:57 AM
Dean Gotcher is a scholar and an expert on how Transformational Marxism, since the fifties, has influenced American culture, and especially the Christian churches. Gotcher has talked a lot about how Transformational Marxism has brought in American social, personality, and clinical psychologists to become its change agents. He also shows how the Group Dynamics, Personality-Social Psychology, and Encounter Group movements of the fifties and sixties developed the dialectic of Hegel and Marx to become an effective attitude and belief change procedure.
Gotcher is also a preacher, who is still on the road, like Willie Nelson who is close to eighty. Gotcher is not that old. Apparently he is not welcomed in the churches and often talks to small groups where he can, including in people's homes.
He shows his ability
to preach with the power of the Spirit in his sixth online audio on
Eric Fromm, a change agent. This audio is half of a lecture, with the
entire talk being about an hour long. This audio is about half an
hour. The part in his talk which impressed me the most is about the
dialectic church.
The link to this audio is: http://authorityresearch.com/File%20...20%20Fromm.mp3
Dean Gotcher Audios:
http://authorityresearch.com/File%20Index%20page%20Speakers/IAR%20Radio%20show.htm
DEAN GOTCHER ON YOUTUBE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CauWkSrRFQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4Oxv2J5GD0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeouVCg8V9U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYVQdNtuMdQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n-Pvpyvvt4&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U9POXN9M2g&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ_GdAgqgBw&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei7wXAlvVq4&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SxNMpZVbzU&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3ZYrsHsQd4&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F87tb5bLQ7Q&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DUtgq6vDck&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kr4FsZShko&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL-MjPSwuyU&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-hpViaGioM&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm5G01Q4ymQ&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAco2VlDoIk&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od1XrOHAP88&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTZTQzMg72s&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xDiga8wHgs&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4U2kdTOJAc&feature=relmfu
Transformational Marxism replaces God's authority with the authority of the dialectic. "It is written" (Matthew 4: 4) is replaced by "what do you think?" What is your opinion?" "Share your opinion of scripture." Get into groups and dialogue."
Dialogue leads into the dialectic which destroys the authority of Scripture, even though scripture is still discussed within the dialectic process. There are several standard tactics of the dialectic used, especially on Christian forums, against "It is written."
A good audio on what the dialectic is can be found here:
http://home1.gte.net/web23vhn/Small-...l--C---MP3.MP3
This audio repeats parts of what a facilitator of the dialectic says to a group of apparently Christians in a Bible study, but most of the audio is Dean Gotcher explaining what the dialectic process is as compared to the authority of God, "it is written."
At one point Dean Gotcher says that now in the Christian churches it is like the time right before the Flood of Noah. Gotcher then says God does not speak into the pre-flood dialectic mind.
On http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/brainwashing/dialectic-gotcher.htm
Dean Gotcher says "God cannot speak into the pre-flood, Tower of
Babel, Sodom and Gomorrah, dialectic mind..."
The dialectic mind is one which does not receive the truth of God's
word in scripture. It is a mind which will try to discredit, disprove
and reject the absolute truth of God. It often does so in a deceptive
way. "Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field the
Lord God had made." Genesis 3: 1
Love of the truth is not in the dialectic mind. "And with all
deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they
received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that
they should believe a lie:
12. That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but
had pleasure in unrighteousness." II Thessalonians 2: 10-12
Since the dialectic mind wants to overthrow the truth, that which is
of faith, and the mind which believes God, the dialectic mind does not
love Christ, who himself is the Truth. " I am the way, the truth, and
the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14: 6
"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God:
for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because
they are spiritually discerned." I Corinthians 2: 14
The dialectic mind does not receive the word of God which is inspired
by the Holy Spirit. In fact, the dialectic mind tries to find subtle
ways of showing that a position or doctrine that comes from faith in
the word is wrong. So the dialectic mind is the natural mind which
sees the truth of God as "foolishness."
Christ does not speak into the dialectic mind of carnal man. The
dialectic mind does not receive the Spirit, nor does Christ put his
mind into man's dialectic mind. "Let this mind be in you, which was
also in Christ Jesus." Philippians 2: 5
The dialectic mind walks after the flesh, not after the Spirit. It is
mired in the flesh by the dialectic; it cannot have the mind of Christ
in it. The dialectic mind starts from man's reasoning and goes farther
away from God into the process of debate. In using subtle ways of
debating against the truth of scripture, the dialectic mind moves far
away from God.
Is there any authority in scripture for this statement by Dean Gotcher that now in the Christian churches it is like the time right before the Flood of Noah? Or is he just speculating? Does Bible prophecy ever say that in the very end times it will be like those before the Flood of Noah?
"And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
27. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
28. Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
29. But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30. Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
31. In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.
32. Remember Lot's wife.
33. Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.
34. I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35. Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
36. Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
37. And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together. "
"Noe" is Noah.
Christian Zionism, dispensatinalism, or postponement theology, has said that verses 34 to 37 describe the pre-tribulation rapture of the dispensationalist church. But look at verse 37 more closely. Christ says wherever the corpse (from the same prophecy in Matthew 24: 28) is there shall the vultures (eagle like birds) will be gathered. Its talking about some event in the very end times which is going to kill a lot of people.
Post Reply
|
