Author	Thread: Is it The Spirit or Theology
Admin	Is it The Spirit or Theology Posted : 8 Jan, 2013 07:03 AM The word of God teaches that the Holy Spirit will lead and guide all that will hear him. He does not support all the divisions started by man under the God of this world's influence. It is vital for all to acknowledge the Spirit of Truth in all subject's and obey the word of God that men will not be deceived. Jn 16:12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Jn 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. Jn 16:14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. Jn 16:15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you. The reason they could not understand some things yet is because THE Holy Spirit was not yet given until they where born again. Post Reply
View Profile History	Is it The Spirit or Theology Posted : 8 Jan, 2013 11:57 AM Well it didn't actually say that...but who will hear? Post Reply
View Profile History	Is it The Spirit or Theology Posted : 8 Jan, 2013 12:36 PM Well it didn't actually say that...but who will hear? It did say that to those that hear. Joh 7:39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.) Those that choose to hear will hear.. Those that choose to see will see.. Mr 7:16 If any man have ears to hear, let him hear. It is always man's choice Post Reply
View Profile History	Is it The Spirit or Theology Posted : 8 Jan, 2013 12:37 PM Well it didn't actually say that...but who will hear? It did say that to those that hear. Joh 7:39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.) Those that choose to hear will hear.. Those that choose to see will see.. Mr 7:16 If any man have ears to hear, let him hear. It is always man's choice Post Reply
dljrn04 View Profile History	Is it The Spirit or Theology Posted : 8 Jan, 2013 12:46 PM That is your first problem pj you do not believe God's holy infallible word. John 15:16 You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit, and that your fruit should remain, that whatever you ask the Father in My name He may give you. You can not choose anything, unless God gives you the ability to do so. It doesn't get any easier than that. You worship man. That is not biblical. Post Reply
View Profile History	Is it The Spirit or Theology Posted : 8 Jan, 2013 12:53 PM Well I was specifically referring to the scripture in the OP...and I am right. Second of all, please stop adding your own words to scripture. We've been down this route before where you post these verses and then add your words about it being man's choice. Ironically...you always have to ADD to accomplish your goal. Post Reply
View Profile History	Is it The Spirit or Theology Posted : 8 Jan, 2013 01:03 PM That is your first problem pj you do not believe God's holy infallible word. John 15:16 You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit, and that your fruit should remain, that whatever you ask the Father in My name He may give you. You can not choose anything, unless God gives you the ability to do so. It doesn't get any easier than that. You worship man. That is not biblical. Here is your example of adding to the word of God, if you are concerned with the truth correct this. Well I was specifically referring to the scripture in the OP...and I am right. No man is right, Sripture alone is truth, not given unto man for his opinion. Second of all, please stop adding your own words to scripture. We've been down this route before where you post these verses and then add your words about it being man's choice. Ironically...you always have to ADD to accomplish your goal. I have no goal as you say, I only answered your question, Jesus said it was man's choice not me. You need to be accurate with your staments Btw The way In Jn fifteen the topic is prayer and the blessing is expressed for all to be fruitful, THE Blessing is for mankind always has been always will be for God never changes. Post Reply
View Profile History	Is it The Spirit or Theology Posted : 8 Jan, 2013 01:10 PM Ironically you had to add words outside of the verses you posted because the verses you posted never said it. For a couple of years now, you like to add "man's choice" to everything when it's not said in the verse. Even when scripture does teach about man choosing to have saving faith, you would have to show how it's not God causing men to choose Him. That, you have always failed to do....for two reasons....One, because it's not possible....Two, you've never tried... Post Reply
View Profile History	Is it The Spirit or Theology Posted : 8 Jan, 2013 01:14 PM Ironically you had to add words outside of the verses you posted because the verses you posted never said it. For a couple of years now, you like to add "man's choice" to everything when it's not said in the verse. Even when scripture does teach about man choosing to have saving faith, you would have to show how it's not God causing men to choose Him. That, you have always failed to do....for two reasons....One, because it's not possible....Two, you've never tried... I am not going to contend with your insult's. Post Reply
View Profile History	Is it The Spirit or Theology Posted : 8 Jan, 2013 01:16 PM If your goal is to get me banned, then you will have to come up with some sort of real evidence that you are being insulted. I've only posted factual statements. Way to again divert attention away from the real issue. Post Reply
dljrn04 View Profile History	Is it The Spirit or Theology Posted : 8 Jan, 2013 01:22 PM "Btw The way In Jn fifteen the topic is prayer and the blessing is expressed for all to be fruitful, THE Blessing is for mankind always has been always will be for God never changes." really you may want to read Jn 15 again. It is not a prayer, it is God instructing his disciples how to live. 1 "I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. 2 Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit He prunes, that it may bear more fruit. 3 You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you. 4 Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me. 5 I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. 6 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you. 8 By this My Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit; so you will be My disciples. 9 "As the Father loved Me, I also have loved you; abide in My love. 10 If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love. 11 These things I have spoken to you, that My joy may remain in you, and that your joy may be full. 12 This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. 13 Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one's life for his friends. 14 You are My friends if you do whatever I command you. 15 No longer do I call you servants, for a servant does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all things that I heard from My Father I have made known to you. 16 You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit, and that your fruit should remain, that whatever you ask the Father in My name He may give you. 17 These things I command you, that you love one another. 18 "If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you. 19 If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. 20 Remember the word that I said to you, 'A servant is not greater than his master.' If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you. If they kept My word, they will keep yours also. 21 But all these things they will do to you for My name's sake, because they do not know Him who sent Me. 22 If I had not come and spoken to them, they would have no sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin. 23 He who hates Me hates My Father also. 24 If I had not done among them the works which no one else did, they would have no sin; but now they have seen and also hated both Me and My Father. 25 But this happened that the word might be fulfilled which is written in their law, 'They hated Me without a cause.' 26 "But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of Me. 27 And you also will bear witness, because you have been with Me from the beginning. Post Reply

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