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On the Four Horns As Carpenters of Zechariah 1: 18-21
Posted : 28 Apr, 2013 04:49 AM

On the Four Horns As Carpenters of Zechariah 1: 18-21



"Then lifted I up mine eyes, and saw, and behold four horns.

19. And I said unto the angel that talked with me, What be these? And

he answered me, These are the horns which have scattered Judah,

Israel, and Jerusalem.

20.And the LORD shewed me four carpenters.

21.Then said I, What come these to do? And he spake, saying, These are

the horns which have scattered Judah, so that no man did lift up his

head: but these are come to fray them, to cast out the horns of the

Gentiles, which lifted up their horn over the land of Judah to scatter

it." Zechariah 1: 18-21



A horn is usually a nation, government or a people. These four

"carpenters" are the governments that have scattered the people of

God, here called Judah, Israel and Jerusalem, or those claiming to be

his people who are being scattered by these four horns as judgment.



But which timeline is involved here, and which governments are the

four carpenters?



Lets look at the Hebrew word translated as carpenters. Carpenters in

Zechariah 1: 20 is Strong's Exhaustive Concordance Number 2796,

charash, from 2790, a fabricator of any material, artificer,

craftsmen, maker, mason, workman."



But, again, these four "carpenters" are governments, and calling them

charash is metaphoric in some way.



Lets look at the Commentary of John Gill to get some idea of what the

traditional Christian Church's view of these four horns might have

been. In his commentary on Zechariah 1: 18, John Gill says "...Targum

interprets them of 'four kingdoms'; and which Kimchi and Abarbinel

understand of the four monarchies, Babylonian, Persian, Grecian, and

Roman;"



Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome are the four kingdoms in King

Nebuchadnezzar's dream of Daniel 2 which Daniel interpreted to be the

Babylonian, Persian, Greek and Roman empires (see Daniel 2: 32-45).



Traditional church doctrine tends to say that the four governments or

empires of Daniel 7 are exactly the same as the four in Daniel 2.

Daniel 7: 1-8 says "In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon

Daniel had a dream and visions of his head upon his bed: then he wrote

the dream, and told the sum of the matters.

2. Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold,

the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea.

3. And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.

4. The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till

the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth,

and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to

it.

5. And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised

up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it

between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour

much flesh.

6. After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had

upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four

heads; and dominion was given to it.

7. After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast,

dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron

teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with

the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were

before it; and it had ten horns.

8. I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them

another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns

plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the

eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things."



The four governments of Daniel 7 are a quartet like the four in Daniel

2. But there is no reason in the text to see them as being the same

empires. If they are another set of four governments in a later time

line, they might have some similarity to the empires of Daniel 2, but

would not be the identical empires.



Remember that there were two major empires in the Mid-East before the

Babylonian empire. These were the Egyptian and Assyrian empires, both

of which interacted with the people of God. Likewise, we can find in

history a total of six major world empires after the Cross, to

parallel the six empires before the Cross, all of which interact with

the people of God, either physical Israel or Israel reborn in Christ

of the New Covenant.



In our own timeline, there have been four major world governments,

which interestingly match up with the descriptions in Daniel 7 of the

four beasts, the lion with eagle's wings which were plucked, the bear,

which devours or destroys much flesh, the leopard, and the fourth

beast, "...dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had

great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the

residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts."



There were two governments after the Cross which were Catholic, the

Holy Roman Empire and the Spanish Empire. The Spanish empire ran into the "Protestant winds" and Queen Elizabeth's Navy when it sent the Spanish Armada to defeat England, then rising as the Lion kingdom, the first

of the modern quartet.



The British Empire existed for a few centuries before the Russian Bear

Soviet Union empire begin to rise in 1917. Then, in a dialectic

collision Hitler's leopard empire rose up in the thirties to oppose

the Russian Bear, and we got World War II. And World War II was

important for the development of the fourth beast of Daniel 7 as a

world power or superpower, which is diverse from the others, and

dreadful and terrible.



The three world empires which defeated Nazi Germany, the leopard

kingdom, met in a historically important meeting in the persons of

Joseph Stalin, Franklin D. Roosevelt and Winston Churchill in February

1945 at Yalta. Yalta was the Crimean resort place. So we have the

Bear increasing in its power in 1945, while the British lion is still

a power but not increased. And the American power was increased to

soon become the full fledged fourth diverse beast, or world

superpower. In the period of about 1945 to 1948 important events in

history were the founding of the United Nations, as part of the fourth

beast, the creation of the American national security state by the

National Security Act of 1947, the bringing into the U.S. of former

Nazi intelligence operatives and scientists and finally, the creation

of the the little horn (Daniel 7: 8) state of Israel in 1948.



Revelation 6: 2-8 presents a metaphoric set of four horses and

horsemen, the white horse whose rider has a crown and goes out to

conquer, the red horse, whose rider takes peace for the earth, the

black horse whose rider holds a set of balances, and finally that

"pale" or chloros horse (green horse) whose rider is Death and Hell

followed after him. "And power was given unto them over the fourth

part of the earth, to kill with the sword, and with hunger,and with

death..."



The quartet of Revelation 6: 2-8 makes sense as being metaphoric

concepts of the same quartet of modern world governments as powers

interpreted to be the British lion, the Russian bear, the Nazi German

Third Reich, and America-United Nations as the fourth beast. Some

justification for this interpretation can be found in Revelation 13: 2

where the first beast is described as being like the leopard, bear and

lion.



The four horses of Revelation 6: 2-8 are also color coded, as the

white colonial power of the British empire, sort of civil and said to

have a man's heart in Daniel 7: 4. The red horse is the Soviet

Marxist system in the form of Bolshevism, but representing something

broader, which could include Transformational Marxism. The black

horse is fascism, in which big corporations and big banks rule through

a totalitarian government under their control. The pale horse, among

other things, represents the mixing of the white, red and black

horses, and don't forget that Death rides the pale horse and Hell

follows close behind him.



The four horns as the four carpenters of Zechariah 1: 18-21 are these

four horses of Revelation 6:2-8, which are world powers or governments

having incorporated some of the traits of the British, Soviet Union

and Nazi Germany empires of the recent past, especially of the

twentieth century period of about 1933 to 1948. The four carpenters

are represented by Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin - and Hitler - and

are also represented by the last four American presidents who have

traits of the white, red, black and pale horses of Revelation 6.



In history, since the important period of 1945-1948 these four

"horses" and riders have scattered God's people. During this period

of time, the falling away of II Thessalonians 2: 3 and the leavening

of Luke 13: 18-21 gained momentum. The Christian II Timothy

Church, which is never able to come to the knowledge of the truth, and

resists the truth (II Timothy 3: 7-8) become more evident in this

period. The remnant, mentioned in Revelation 11: 13 and in Revelation

12: 17, having the testimony of Jesus Christ (Revelation 12: 17) are

literally scattered over the world. And as in Daniel 12: 7 the

spiritual and earthy power of the holy people are scattered, and the

power of the II Timothy church is diminished.



God's people have been scattered in the sense that their spiritual power

has been diminished since 1945-1948 because the worldly culture under

these world empires of Daniel 7 and Revelation 13: 1-2, as well as

from the four horses and riders of

Revelation 6 have become more hostile to the true Gospel. The II

Timothy church has incorporated some of this worldly culture into

itself.

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On the Four Horns As Carpenters of Zechariah 1: 18-21
Posted : 28 Apr, 2013 05:22 AM

It sure has.

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