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Arminian grace vs Amazing Grace
Posted : 24 Aug, 2013 02:30 AM

Arminian "grace" how strange the sound,

Salvation hinged on me.



I once was lost, then turned around,

was blind then chose to see.



What "grace"is it that calls for choice,

made from some good within?



That part that that wills to heed God's voice,

Proved stronger than my sin.



Tru many ardn't gospel pleas,

I sat with heart of stone.

But then some hidden good in me,

propelled me toward my home.



When we've been there ten thousand years,

because of what we've done, we've no less days to sing our praise, than when we first begun.







This is the difference in the whom i serve and the idol god most of this site serve.







"Amazing Grace"



Amazing grace, how sweet the sound

That saved a wretch like me.





I once was lost, but now I'm found.

'Twas blind, but now I see.





'Twas grace that taught my heart to fear

And grace my fears relieved.





How precious did that grace appear

The hour I first believed.





When we've been there ten thousand years

Bright shining as the sun,

We've no less days to sing God's praise

Then when we first begun.





Amazing grace, how sweet the sound

That saved a wretch like me.

I once was lost, but now I'm found.

Was blind, but now I see.

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Posted : 24 Aug, 2013 04:04 AM

Singin' Amazing Grace.......how sweet the sound........ :yay:



Arminian Grace ----> :toomuch: :ribbit:

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Posted : 24 Aug, 2013 04:07 AM

We are well aware of the idolatry in another Doctrine.



There is no Grace imparted to him that has not chosen Him, and Him ALONE>

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Posted : 24 Aug, 2013 07:35 AM

Matthew 6:8�Be not ye therefore like unto them:for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.

Matthew 7:7�Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:�

8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.�

9 Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone?�

10 Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent?�

11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?

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Luke 18:13�And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.�

14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other:for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

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Posted : 24 Aug, 2013 08:26 AM

Grace vs GRACE



There is the Grace to do what you do...



And then...



There is the "GRACE" to do what God would have you do...



Thank you Abba for your GRACE is sufficient...:bow:...xo

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Posted : 24 Aug, 2013 09:23 AM

I would have to say this reflection of what some call Grace looks and sounds like Idolatry.



Discord, Strife, false accusation and of all such is not of Grace,

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Posted : 25 Aug, 2013 07:54 AM

That's what some people do because its all they know how to do...When they just can't Sway you then they just have to Dis you with what they believe to be acceptable humor...:laugh:...They can't help it remember...they bought the depraved doctrine which states they are totally unable to make a willful choice to do the right instead of the wrong...xo

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Posted : 25 Aug, 2013 09:09 AM

Yet another example of a willfully ignorant, (lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated) hypocritical, PSEUDO-loving comment from a member of the "free will" exalting "Pelagian Posse" Nothing new -- highlight the perceived "dis/humor" in the OP while simultaneously offering your own sarcastic dis/humor".



Wow!! Another classic. :toomuch:

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Posted : 25 Aug, 2013 11:21 AM

Matthew 6:8�Be not ye therefore like unto them:for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.



Matthew 7:7�Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:�

8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.�

9 Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone?�

10 Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent?�

11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?

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Luke 18:13�And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.�

14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other:for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

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Making mockery of each others beliefs does not glorify God and does not encourage anyone to take the other seriously.

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Posted : 25 Aug, 2013 12:05 PM

It is because so many untaught men, unregenerate men, now occupy the pulpits�that "another gospel" (Galatians 1:6) is being so widely and generally disseminated. Multitudes who have neither "tasted that the Lord is gracious" nor have "the fear of the Lord" in them�have from various motives and considerations, invaded the sacred calling of the ministry and out of the abundance of their corrupt hearts, they speak. Being blind themselves, they lead the blind into the ditch! Having no love for the Shepherd they�have none for the sheep, being but "hirelings." They are themselves "of the world" and therefore "the world hears them" (1 John 4:5), for they preach that which is acceptable unto fallen human nature, and as like attracts like, they gather around themselves a company of admirers who flatter and support them. They will bring in just enough of God's Truth to deceive the unwary, and give an appearance of orthodoxy to their message�but not sufficient of the Truth, especially the searching portions thereof�to render their hearers uncomfortable by destroying their false peace. They will name Christ but not preach Him; they will mention the Gospel but not expound it.



Some of these men will preach legality�under the pretense of furthering morality and honoring the Divine Law. They will preach up good works�but lay no foundation upon which they may be built. They confound justification and sanctification, making personal holiness to be the ground of the sinner's acceptance before God. They sow their vineyard with "divers seeds" (Deut. 22:9) so that Law and Gospel, Divine grace and creature performances are so mingled together that their distinctive characters are obliterated.



Others preach licentiousness under the guise of magnifying the grace of God. They omit the Divine call to repentance, say nothing about the necessity of forsaking our sins if we are to obtain mercy (Proverbs 28:13), lay no stress upon regeneration as a being made "a new creature in Christ" (2 Cor. 5:17)�but declare that the sinner has simply to accept Christ as his personal Savior�though his heart is still proud, without contrition and thoroughly in love with the world�and that eternal life is now his. The result of this preaching is well calculated to bolster up the deluded�for instead of insisting that saving faith is evidenced by its spiritual fruits, instead of teaching that the Christian life is a warfare against the world, the flesh and the devil, and that none but the overcomer will reach Heaven�they are assured�no matter how carnal their walk�that "once saved, always saved," and thus they are soothed in their sins, and comforted with a false peace until they awake in Hell. Shun all such preaching, my reader, as you would a deadly plague. "Cease, my son, to hear the instruction that causes you to err from the words of knowledge" (Proverbs 19:27). A.W. Pink

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Posted : 25 Aug, 2013 03:12 PM

Scripture should be the basis of all doctrinal discussions. If people relied more on Scripture and less on man's interpretations, the Holy Spirit could do more in each of our lives.

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