Thread: This is a topic for relate and not debate.
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This is a topic for relate and not debate.
Posted : 4 Sep, 2013 04:57 AM
When lucifer said ( I will) that was the attitude past down to me as a individual.
I am a very strong willed man. My strong will most of my life has caused me and others great pain. My will in the flesh has created destruction in my life leading me to death.
Because my will was set aginst the will of God just as Lucifers was.
Debate it deny it. Whatever you want but you cant ever change the fact that I was born with a extreemly strong will. The evidene of this is apparent in the fruit of my past life.
God entered my life as a boy and I was introduced to Gods love at the age of Nine. Since then.....many times I used my extreemly strong will to search out God in the scripture to understand and find more of this Love.
The thing was I still held unto my stuburness and the extreemy hardened heart.
It wasnt untill I found some trust in God that enabled me to release my strong will over to Him and die to self ( my will)
In doing this and saying not my will but thy will be done. I was opened up to possibilities of relating to God in ways that I never dreamed.
My strong will still exists. Only my will is now surrendered to Gods will. Now I use the strong will that Lucifer exampled to me and was sent down through generations to find a great stone to dash my will upon.
I use my strong will to serve my living God and to live in strength and not weakness.
I use my strong will to proclaim the messages that God gives me to hopefully encourage others to surrender their wills before God and find Him also.
Do I need to really quote scripture to support this? Like take up our cross and follow Jesus. Whoever loses his life finds it. Whoever is least will be greatest and so on and so on.
My faith is more a attitude toward God according to my will and not the knowledge of how much scripture I know. Even though scripture helps me understand who God is that I can trust him more and surrender more.
I come here to relate with you not to debate with you. If you dont want to relate with me I accept that.
But now you know and this should settle some issues with me according to these sort of threads.
I believe the conflict comes when we feel the other is tring to assert their wills upon us with the uses of scripture. When we dont respond favorily to their desire to know and understand the things that are dear to them we become defensive and I do too.
We end up in a continuing conflict of wills. Both trying to assert our wills according to our beliefs on the other. Wanting them to understand and accept the things we understand and accept.
The things we all hold dear according to our faiths.
The place of relating with us is that we really need to undersatnd that we all have faith beliefs that are dear to our hearts. Even the ones that conflict with our faith beliefs and anothers.
The tricky part is when we expect the other to just abandon their dearly close faith beliefs and accept ours.
Is it really our job to make another abandon their faith beliefs? and accept ours?
That is the question to ponder. I am not looking for debate a simple yes or no will surfice.
With a simple yes or no we will then know where we are according to this relational dysfunction.
When I spend time in scripture and bible study but no offense to anyone. I prefer to spend my time relating and getting to know my God rather than finding scripture to debate and refute anothers faith.
I am spending time in going through the books of the prophets trying to relate and understand the gifts Gods has chosen to give me.
I appreciate anothers desire to debate but it is not mine anymore.
Speaking generally not spicifically to you dear sister Jude :glow:
I can relate...It is in those times of quite reflection that draws us ever more closer to Him that is our Father...our desire to draw close to Him...and in so doing...He is close to us...its a sweet sweet drink of Living Water...XO
First of all most of what call debate is simply STRIFE, which is SIN.
Faith or as some say my faith, is usually no faith, it is a product of their mind, thinking.
Man think they can believe with their mind, Impossible.
Man's Will is to be renewed to the will of God by the word of God and it is a continual ongoing process.
The Mind, The Will, And the Emotions are man's Soul.
Man the Spirit being is to govern his soul, just as he is to govern his body.
In the new Birth, the soul and body are totally unchanged.
Notice this verse:
James 1:21
Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
Romans 12:2 2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
Eph 4:23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
Eph 4:24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
All are referring to YOU to renew your mind (soul), will, emotions.
Shared ~ I am spending time in going through the books of the prophets trying to relate and understand the gifts Gods has chosen to give me.
*** That's awsum Michael...When I found a "Church Building" to attend in fellowship of the spirit of Christ Jesus...I entered were everyone was studying the Gifts...not only of the Prophets but also the Gifts of the Holy Spirit...I asked a Co-Pastor that leads a Get Connected class and teaches about these same Gifts how come I don't have ANY of these...He just chuckled and says...You do...they just have not been revealed to you yet...How do I find out what they are??...Read your Bible and Meditated on the Word...it will come to you if your heart is right with HIM...That was the beginning of a New Journey...and one I am still to this day and everyday...traveling... :o)...XO
Your gift will be the most obvious thing in your life that comes naturally to you. Since it is so part of you and has probally been, you might not even consider it as a gift.
My gift was pointed out to me by my previous girlfriend. My daughter has inherited this gift also. The other day she was sharing with me her exercise in this gift and actually saved her friend from suicide.
Yup!!!...your are absolutely right...that's why I do the Ministry I do...its because GOD takes a Liability and He turns it into an Asset for His Glory...I am nothing and can do nothing without HIM !!!...When my Daddy took ill...I left my job to take of him until he passed...I had a dream about my Daddy...I saw his face and his hand lifting towards me...and when I woke...I knew...that I knew...that I knew...that I would be with Him when he passed...and it came to pass exactly as I had seen it...Some folks can call this what ever they want...however...I know it was from Yahweh...
1Cr 12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
This is the group I am blessed with..."Teachers"..."Helps"..."3 Languages"...and none of these I have gone to school for...Yet...God has used me as His instrument in these...
So glad to hear "read" that an intervention of a no less than a Miracle happened concerning the possible suicide attempt...God is always so very good...xo
