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Posted : 16 Sep, 2013 05:13 AM

To get most people to accept a global rule, the way of thinking by the majority of the people had to be changed. The didactic way of teaching and learning had to be replaced by the dialectic way of teaching and learning. Under the didactic way of teaching and learning a statement is judged to be true or false, right or wrong. And this right or wrong, yea and nay, way of thinking and of teaching applies to morals also in the traditional society.



Remember that II Corinthians

1: 19-20 says "For the Son of God, Jesus Christ, who was preached among you by

us, even by me and Silvanus and Timotheus, was not yea and nay, but in

him was yea. For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him

Amen, unto the glory of God by us." II Corinthians 1:19-20



In Jesus Christ there are no shades of grey, no double mindedness,

only absolutes. The dialectic

mind, on the other hand, operates on shades of grey and doublemindedness.



"But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven,

neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be

yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation." James 5: 12



And in the area of the flesh, George Orwell knew something about the dialectical

method of Marxism when in his novel 1984 the protagonist Winston Smith

tells his facilitator-handler, O'Brian "How can I help seeing what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four." O'Brian answers "Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It is not easy to become sane."



Satan in Genesis 3: 1-7 moved Eve away from her faith in the absolute authority

of God that his Word is the absolute truth, and is fact. He moved her away

from obedience to the absolute truth of God, from "it is written," from the

didactic framework to the dialectic. Once moved out of the absolute into the dialectic

Eve began to dialogue with Satan, which she never should have done. Christ in Matthew 4: 1-11 answered Satan with "it is written" more than once when Satan tried to tempt Christ and dialogue with him. In not dialoguing with Satan the first facilitator, Christ defeated him at this encounter, for in verse 11 "Then the devil leaveth him."



An understanding of the dialectic way of thinking and the dialectic type of argument is a powerful weapon for standing against the wiles of the devil, as used by his human minions."Stand therefore, having your lions grit about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness, and your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace: Above all taking the shield of faith, wherein ye shall be able to quench all the firey darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God." Ephesians 6: 14-17



But being deceived into accepting the dialectic framework and the dialectic mind, which then causes the person to argue against the absolute truth of scripture, destroys faith, though those who claim to be Christians also claim to have faith when they are in the dialectic mind set.



The dialectic mind of those who do not claim to be Christian also rejects any absolute morality, and also wants to compromise whatever is considered true.



And continued dialogue with someone with the dialectic mind can eventually diminish faith in the absolute truth of God.



Traditional education in a traditional American culture which followed common morality and a Constitution as the supreme law was not dialogue between the teacher and the group of students. But in Transformational Marxism the teacher becomes the facilitator who encourages dialogue with him or her. But the dialogue the facilitator encourages turns out to be a subtle way of luring the student group away from the absolute framework of truth and morality toward a transformational framework.



Theodore W. Adorno (1903�1969), and other members of the Frankfurt School, especially Herbert Marcuse (1898�1979), who were run out of Nazi Germany to the U.S. in the thirties provided the Marxist ideological structure for Antonio Gramsci's long march through the institutions in the U.S.. Theodore Adorno published his book, The Authoritarian Personality in 1950, a book which can be seen to mark a beginning of Transformational Marxism in the U.S. In this 1950 book, Adorno said that Christianity and the family were the causes of the authoritarian personality and of fascism, and must be done away with. Yet very many American personality and social psychologists of the fifties and sixties appeared to accept Adorno's posing as a personality-social psychologist and went about using the F Scale and E Scale paper and pencil questionnaires Adorno promoted to do research on Adorno's theories.





A part of the change that had to be made in American culture was to introduce a new collectivism into American society.



The counterculture of the sixties and seventies introduced a kind of

group think to a generation of Americans and a few born before 1945,

and an ideal of group conformity which was not fully known by those

who took part in this new group think at the time. They were more

interested in becoming "liberated" from the patriarchal family and

patriarchal authority of God in Christianity. But remember the Woodstock Festival in 1969 as the experience of group think, and the many Hippie assemblies to hear rock bands with all the pot smoking.



�The real nature of man is the totality of social relations.� Karl

Marx Thesis on Feuerbach # 6



�It is not individualism that fulfills the individual, on the

contrary it destroys him. Society is the necessary framework through

which freedom and individuality are made realities� only in a

socialist society.� Karl Marx



�The individual is emancipated in the social group.� �Freud

commented that only through the solidarity of all the participants

could the sense of guilt be assuaged.� Norman O. Brown, Life Against Death.



�Only within a social context individual man is able to realize

his own potential as a rational being.� Joseph O�Malley Karl Marx

Critique of Hegel's 'Philosophy of Right'



"One of the most fascinating aspects of group therapy is that

everyone is born again, born together in the group." �Few individuals,

as Asch has shown, can maintain their objectivity [belief in parent or

God] in the face of apparent group unanimity; ...� Irvin D. Yalom

Theory and Practice and Group Psychotherapy



�The individual accepts the new system of values and beliefs by

accepting belongingness to the group.� Kurt Lewin in Kenneth Benne

Human Relations in Curriculum Change



Kurt Lewin was the Marxist social psychologist who began the Group

Dynamics movement, which, among other things, taught the importance of

group cohesiveness in changing human values, beliefs, attitudes and

behavior.



The Group Dynamics movement operated behind the appearance of being

science, that is, experimental social psychology, by guys like Leon Festinger,

Stanley Schachter, Kurt Back and other social psychologists of the forties and

fifties like J.C. Gilchrist at Wisconsin. But Group Dynamics fed into a knowledge

of how to create small groups to be cohesive, and an understanding that in order

to use small groups to change people's beliefs, attitudes and behavior, the group

must be cohesive. This knowledge was soon used in the encounter group

movement of the sixties and seventies, which got going first in California, but was

led by psychologists like Carl Rogers and William Coulson from the Midwest and the University of Wisconsin.



"Small groups are the most effective way of closing the back door of

your church." Rick Warren



Rick Warren is not a member of the Frankfurt School or an American

psychologist Transformational Marxist, but is now a leader of the huge

number of false teachers who have changed the Gospel in order to build

huge congregations and the mega church.



The Frankfurt School has first mixed Marx with Freud, since Freud also

promoted a form of the dialectic. Remember that the Bolshevik Marxists, Lenin,

Trotsky and Stalin, promoted what they called dialectical materialism. But in the U.S.

the Frankfurters were soon joined by a number of American psychologists and psychiatrists.



Psychology exalts the flesh of man, especially man's pride, calling it

self-esteem and self-actualization (Rogers and Maslow), above man

created as a living soul.

Psychoanalysis from Freud stressed the flesh and advocated a revolt

against the Father authority figure. Behaviorism in psychology, from

Wundt, to Watson and to B.F. Skinner with his Skinner box psychology

all pointed toward a reduced man who is nothing but desires, feelings

and conditioning. Wilhelm Wundt did not deal with classical

and operant conditioning as did John B. Watson and B.F. Skinner.

Wundt did early work on sensory psychology, which was another form of psychological reductionism.



Benjamin Bloom was an educational psychologist who wrote two volumes (Cognitive Domain, 1956, and Affective Domain, 1964) on the taxonomies of educational goals. His system has been used in the

certification of all public school and other school teachers for

decades. Bloom was a Transformational Marxist who had great influence

on the American education system - and all this could only happen

because American society is organized in a top-down way, so that the

elites at the top have control over the entire society.



Benjamin Bloom, who wrote the two volume book on the Taxonomy

of Educational Goal Objectives, by which all teachers must be

certified, said "�We recognize the point of view that

truth and knowledge are only relative and that there are no hard and

fast truths which exist for all time and places.� (Benjamin Bloom, et

al., Taxonomy of Educational Objectives, Book 1, Cognitive Domain)



Dean Gotcher found a footnote in Bloom's Taxonomy of Educational

Objectives Book 2, Affective Domain, on the "Weltanschaaung" or world

view Bloom was following. On

page 166 of this volume Bloom acknowledges the influence of Theodore W. Adorno

and Eric Fromm on the psychological theory, philosophy or ideology

contained in his two volumes, Educational Goal taxonomies. Book II

Affective Domain p. 166. Bloom used the German word Weltanschaaung on this

page of his book to refer to the philosophy underlying Bloom's

educational goals.



�1. Cf. Erich Fromm, 1941; T. W. Adorno et al., 1950� Benjamin Bloom,

Book II Affective Domain p. 166. This is Bloom's footnote

acknowledging the influence on his thinking from Erich Fromm and

Theodore W. Adorno. Adorno was an original Frankfurter Marxist who

posed as a personality and social psychologist in writing his 1950

book, The Authoritarian Personality, in which he claimed that the

authoritarian personality and fascism are caused by the family and

Christianity. Erich Fromm was a Transformational Marxist psychologist

and close associate of the Frankfurters.



"In the eyes of the dialectical philosophy, nothing is established for

all time, nothing is absolute or sacred." (Karl Marx)



For Transformational Marxism and the dialectic mind there are no absolute

truths and no absolute morals. Everything is relative and subject to

dialogue within the dialectic process, with more emphasis on relationships and

feelings than on truth or morals.



The present II Timothy type Christian community (II Timothy 3) does not follow Marx in his

rejection of God, but it does make use of the dialectic procedure from

Hegel and Marx and refined by several American psychologists.



Dean Gotcher says the Mega Church movement cannot

exist without the dialectic church. That is, Psychologized

Transformational Marxism invaded the American church a number of decades

ago.



Benjamin Bloom's first volume on educational goals under Transformational Marxism was

Taxonomy of Educational Objectives, Book 1, Cognitive Domain, published in 1956.



It took a few years for the takeover of American public school education by the ideology of Transformational Marxism to begin to have an effect, along with the dialectic and the new emphasis upon the flesh by its allies in psychology. But by sometime in the sixties. at a time when the counterculture was going on in certain centers and in a few major universities, this transformation of American education had begun. John Dewey had contributed some to its rise, but Dewey's stuff was more like academic philosophy than a Marxist ideology of education, which was not called Marxist, but called something else.



And again, it was the Baby Boomer generation which was first changed by the new Transformational Marxist educational objectives articulated by educational psychologist Benjamin Bloom.



Someone who went through grade school, high school and finished college before about 1960 received a different education than those who went through these levels in the sixties and afterward. And this difference is a big part of the separation between the Baby Boomers and their children from the generation born before about 1940. There is that in between group born from about 1941 to 1945 which is interesting.



The process of changing people, developed in small face to face groups in the Group Dynamic Movement and then in the Encounter Group movement, so that they give up absolute truth and absolute morality, and obedience to the authority of the father in the family, to God, and to other authority figures in the traditional culture makes it easier for a New World Order to be created.



And this process which can be called the dialectic takes people more fully back to the flesh, to the natural man of I Corinthians 2: 14. In taking people, especially Christians, back more fully to the natural man, the Transformational Marxists also directed these people as being more fully in the state of the natural man, who knows litter more than feelings, opinions, desires and conditioning toward a willingness to be obedient to political authorities, so fulfilling the ideas of the very early Transformational Marxists that Marxism must first establish its cultural

dominance in society and then when that dominance was in place the

people would willingly obey the Marxist political authorities.



Antonio Gramsci (1891-1937), along with Georg Lukacs, was the founder

of cultural Marxism. Gramsci pioneered the concept of cultural

dominance as a means of changing a society into a collectivist Marxist

state.



And Gramsci believed that Marxism must first establish its cultural

dominance in society and then when that dominance was in place the

people would willingly obey the Marxist political authorities. He saw

Marxist intellectuals as directors (later called "facilitators" in the

U.S.) who created Marxist cultural dominance by means of ideological

institutions which are education, the media, and religion (Christianity).



On http://www.schillerinstitute.org/fid...frankfurt.html they say

"What differentiated the West from Russia,

Lukacs identified, was a

Judeo-Christian cultural matrix which emphasized exactly the

uniqueness and sacredness of the individual which Lukacs abjured....."



From its beginning, the leaders of Transformational Marxism knew they

could be more effective if they concealed the Marxist nature of their

work, and instead led the society of the West out of the protestant

individual based cultural dominance with its morality, individual

freedom, self-reliance and relationship to Jesus Christ.



In 1922, inspired in part by Lukacs, a group of German Marxists

established a think tank at Frankfurt University in Germany called the

Institute for Social Research. This institute, soon known simply as

the Frankfurt School, would become the center of cultural Marxism.



The Frankfurters wanted to change the economic focus of traditional

Marxism to a cultural and psychological focus. To do this they first turned to Sigmund

Freud. Later in the United States, Theodor W. Adorno pretended to be

a personality-social psychologist and researcher using paper and

pencil questionnaires. Soon a number of 20th century change agents,

including some psychologists and psychiatrists - Abraham H. Maslow,

Carl R. Rogers, the Frankfurter Eric Fromm, Wilhelm Reich on the

fringes of the Frankfurters, Norman O. Brown, Irvin D. Yalom and

Herbert Marcuse, a Frankfurter Marxist sociologist, all began to lead

Gramsci's long march through the institutions of America.



The counterculture of the sixties and seventies began

the process of changing the American culture, and changing

the way of thinking and psychology of the individuals within that culture..

The counterculture

established the drug movement, sexual rebellion against Christian

sexual morality, plus feminism, the Black movement, as well as the

homosexual and lesbian movements. Lesbianism became politically and

sexually correct in the major universities soon after the seventies.

The major universities became change agents, with their politically

correct feminism, gay rights, lesbianism, homosexuality, self psychology, and

Marxist sociological ideology, all within cultural Marxism. Pornography, as on the Internet, is allied with all this because it too attacks Christianity and the family.



Feminism in part began the revolt against the absolute authority of the father

in the family and the absolute authority of God and his Word, and began moving to a

transformational situation, which was sort of a matriarchy. But the goal of Transformational

Marxism was not a matriarchy, but an heresiarchal framework of thinking and acting.



Feminism played an important role in overthrowing the father figure in American society, something demanded by Theodore W. Adorno in his 1950 book, The Authoritarian Personality. The Father figure was head of the strong American family. And when the Father was overthrown, the boys became dysfunctional. The educational system was geared more to girls than to boys, and many boys became dysfunctional in that system.



To replace belief in truth and absolute morality and the traditional didactic way of

teaching, to diminish individual

spirituality and the focus on the individual in Western culture, the Transformational

Marxists knew they must change the society surrounding the Christian churches

as well as infiltrate the churches themselves with the Marxist

dialectic process and replace man as a living soul with man as mere

flesh in the churches.



And psychological-cultural Marxism also set out to diminish

the strength of the American family and overthrow the father and

husband as the authority in the family. They had to infiltrate the Christian

churches with their dialectic process of undermining absolute truth and morality.

The stealth Marxist intellectuals following the lead of the Frankfurt School also knew

they had to infiltrate and change American public school education,

not only to dumb down the population so they would not be critical of

what was happening to their society, but also to change the society

from an individual based one to a collective based Marxist society. They

had to change the way of thinking of an entire society of the West from the didactic

or absolute truth and morality framework to a heresiarchal framework of thinking, which is

created and defended by the dialectic process of dialogue. Then, as the first

Transformational Marxists, Antonio Gramsci and Georg Lukacs, said, the population would

obey its Marxist political authorities. Once the population has been dumbed

down and deceived into taking on the dialectic mind, the Marxist collectivist

society will be totalitarian like that of the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany.



In Revelation 13: 2 the first beast is like the leopard (Nazi Germany), the bear (Soviet Union) and

the lion (British Empire). The first beast, that one in Daniel 7: 7, dreadful, terrible and strong

exceedingly, has some traits of the British Empire, especially usury banking which got its start

in the modern era with the Bank of England. The lion empire in Daniel 7: 4, remember, is said to first have eagle's wings, which were later plucked off, and it was given the heart of a man. It was not as evil as the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany, but it was nevertheless an aggressive world empire which used the force of arms to conquer weaker nations. Three of the four horses and riders of Revelation 6: 2-8 are described as being warlike, conquering (the White Horse), taking peace from the earth and causing people to kill one another (the Red Horse), and having power to kill the fourth part of the earth, while Death is its rider and Hell follows close (the Pale Horse). The Black Horse's rider has a pair of balances in his hand and a voice says "A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine."



Benjamin Bloom, a follower of Theodor Adorno and Eric Fromm, as he

admits in a footnote, was the key change agent for American public

school education, with his educational goal taxonomies, by which every school teacher must be certified. Taking over American public school education, and influencing private school education, was a vital part of preparing the population for Marxist collectivism.

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Posted : 16 Sep, 2013 05:53 AM

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For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him

Amen, unto the glory of God by us.

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Good information. Thank you Halfback.

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Posted : 17 Sep, 2013 05:06 AM

"The counterculture of the sixties and seventies began

the process of changing the American culture, and changing

the way of thinking and psychology of the individuals within that culture..

The counterculture

established the drug movement, sexual rebellion against Christian

sexual morality, plus feminism, the Black movement, as well as the

homosexual and lesbian movements. Lesbianism became politically and

sexually correct in the major universities soon after the seventies.

The major universities became change agents, with their politically

correct feminism, gay rights, lesbianism, homosexuality, self psychology, and

Marxist sociological ideology, all within cultural Marxism. Pornography, as on the Internet, is allied with all this because it too attacks Christianity and the family."



The counterculture began with the drug movement in about 1962, and the hippies came on the scene three or four years later

in the Haight-Ashbury (San Francisco), the Lower East Side Bohemian area (New York City), and in a few major university cities (Madison, Wisconsin, Ann Arbor, Michigan and other universities later on). Drug use, with the promise of a high from pot smoking and some kind of mystical experience from LSD, was one lure to bring young people into the movement. Sex was an even bigger lure to bring in the young people to what was really the beginning of Transformational Marxism in the U.S., but almost no one knew that at the time. The hippie movement was acknowledged by the media by about 1965 or so, and the heterosexual sex lib movement go going at about that time. Remember that in the bohemian centers where the counterculture began, that a lot of sex outside of marriage had already been going on than had gone on in the late fifties and very early sixties in the larger culture for people aged about 18 to 25. This was true at the University of Wisconsin at the time.



Michael William Doyle, a professor of history at Ball State

wrote Free Radicals and is co-editor of Imagine

Nation, essays on the counterculture.

Doyle says "The trick to writing about the Sixties counterculture, I

think, is in how you define this "movement" in way that is coherent

and plausibly differentiates it from the other, more conventional

social movements with which it is inextricably intertwined."



The core movements of the counterculture were the drug and hippie

movements. There were several other movements that were intertwined

with the drug and hippie movements. Feminism, lesbianism, gay rights, and the New

Left, which morphed into political correctness, were important for the establishment

of Transformational Marxism in the larger American culture - and the dialectic.

All of these movements helped to overthrow the Father figure in American society, to weaken

the family and infiltrate 501C(3) IRS incorporated organized Christianity with the dialectic

mind which helped to led to re-definition of some key doctrines within the Gospel itself.



The hippies were interested in drugs and sex and in an anti-Christian attitude. Doyle

would probably see the heterosexual sexual liberation movement as being a more "conventional

social movement intertwined" with the core movements of the counterculture. At the University of Wisconsin in the sixties and moving on into the early and mid seventies many undergraduates and graduate students who had sex outside of marriage did not use drugs nor dress and act much like hippies.



The strong tradition of the University of Wisconsin social life fed into the more conventional heterosexual sex lib movement of the time, which, however, was the lure to bring young educated people into Transformational Marxism. An interesting history of the Blue Bus in Madison, Wisconsin might be written, which would show the extent to which the student population participated in the heterosexual sex lib movement. The Blue Bus began as an old bus painted blue in which some medical students, volunteers and a doctor to write prescriptions parked in the areas near campus and gave free examinations and prescriptions for antibiotics for sexually transmitted diseases. By the early seventies the Blue Bus was in its own old building not far from the Mifflin Street Coop, which was another institution of the counterculture, along with the Whole Earth Coop, allied with the back to the earth movement within the counterculture, which is interesting for its contribution to the alternative health care movement still going on. I almost forgot the Jesus Freaks which was still another offshoot from the counterculture. From what I know about them, they were mostly outside of the churches, but tended to follow much of church theology, such as dispensationalism. They may have been more like the Pentecostals..



The homosexual and lesbian movements which soon followed in the early seventies were not conventional social movements, but something more radical and indicative of major changes in the culture. A lot of sex outside of marriage had gone on for a small number of bohemians long before 1965. The feminist movement was also something more radical and basically transformational. Then there was the New Age Occult movement which was also associated loosely with the counterculture. The people into the drug movement under Timothy Leary, Richard Alpert and Ken Kesey were into Far Eastern religions, and the hippies, less sophisticated, were into Astrology.



The LSD drug movement, which started in about 1962,

was promoted in part by Aldous Huxley through Gregory Bateson at the

Palo Alto VA Hospital and through Tim Leary and Richard Alpert at

Harvard. Many people knew about the roles of Ken Kesey, Alpert and Leary in the drug movement

but not of Huxley and Bateson's role in it..



Aldous Huxley - of the British

Elite - was important in creating the LSD or drug

movement in both California and in the Boston area through his

protogees Gregory Bateson, Timothy Leary and Richard Alpert.

Huxley promoted his LSD project in California by making use of

Alan Watts and Gregory Bateson.

Watts was the

"guru" of a Zen Buddhist cult. Bateson was

the director of a hallucinogenic drug experimental clinic at the Palo

Alto Veterans Administration Hospital. Bateson was one of the first

to experiment with giving LSD to mental patients and others - and writer

Ken Kesey was one of his early subjects.



Psychologist Keven MacDonald wrote The Frankfurt School of Social Research

and the Pathologization of Gentile Group Allegiances

He says "The Authoritarian Personality attempts to show that gentile group

affiliations, and particularly membership in Christian religious

sects, gentile nationalism, and close family relationships, are an

indication of psychiatric disorder." The Authoritarian Personality, 1950,

was the pioneering Transformational Marxist book written by University

of California At Berkeley professor Theodore W. Adorno of the Frankfurt School.



The counterculture of the sixties was a radical cultural movement

with several different cultural strands, all undermining Christianity

and the American family.



The counterculture core movements, the drug and hippie movements, as

well as its several associated movements,helped to transformed the American middle class culture

in the decades following the sixties, and also had some influence on the American lower middle

class. The churches draw a large percentage of their members from the American Lower Middle

Class, which apparently was not affected much in the sixties and seventies by the counterculture as much as more educated people were influenced by this collection of movements. But later in the 20th century, even the Lower Middle Class was influenced by the counterculture's aftermath and by Transformational Marxism.

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Posted : 17 Sep, 2013 06:30 AM

"with their politically correct feminism, gay rights, lesbianism, homosexuality, self psychology, and Marxist sociological ideology"



These are marks of apostate Christianity. This is the pervasive spirit inside the church buildings in America today -- either explicitly or implicitly.



This is also a reason for the rise among women "pastors and leaders" in that system. They are usurpers of the authority given to the man undermining the Truth of God with a lie that they have some "special call" or that "God spoke to them directly". Particularly in Charismatic/Pentecostal circles, it is common to substitute "personal revelation" with the written and revealed Word of God. And in instances where this "new revelation" contradicts the written Word, they reject the written word. This is a great error.



Good stuff Halfback -- thank you brother.

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