Author	Thread: John 6:44
dljrn04 View Profile History	John 6:44 Posted : 18 Oct, 2013 06:33 PM No man can come to me (total depravity) Unless the Father (unconditional election) Who sent Me draws him (irresistable grace) And I will raise him up (limited atonement) On the last day (perserverence of the saints) ..(John 6:44 teaching all 5 points of Calvinism) Post Reply
View Profile History	John 6:44 Posted : 18 Oct, 2013 06:36 PM "That's just your interpretation" :laugh: Post Reply
teach_ib View Profile History	John 6:44 Posted : 18 Oct, 2013 06:46 PM It's your interpretation, too. Post Reply
teach_ib View Profile History	John 6:44 Posted : 18 Oct, 2013 06:47 PM The language of the Bible cannot be more clear: He died for . . . �******* � � � � � � � � � the world (John 3:16; 6:33,51) John 3:16�For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 6:33�For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world. John 6:51�I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world. *******� � � � � � � � the whole world (1 John 2:2) 1 John 2:2�And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. ********� � all (1 Timothy 2:4-6) 1 Timothy 2:4�Who will have ALL men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.� 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;� 6 Who gave himself a ransom for ALL, to be testified in due time. ****** � � � � � � � � � � us all (Isaiah 53:6) Isaiah 53:6 ALL�we like sheep have gone astray; WE�have turned every one to his own way;�and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us ALL.� ��***** � � � � � � � � � all men (Romans 5:18) �Romans 5:18�Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. *****� � every man (Hebrews 2:9) Hebrews 2:9�But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man. Post Reply
teach_ib View Profile History	John 6:44 Posted : 18 Oct, 2013 06:49 PM John 6:44 says no one can come except the Father draws him...it doesn't say that all that the Father draws will come.� Post Reply
View Profile History	John 6:44 Posted : 18 Oct, 2013 06:52 PM " All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out." -- John 6:37 Post Reply
teach_ib View Profile History	John 6:44 Posted : 18 Oct, 2013 06:56 PM That doesn't say that all that the Father draws will come. There is a difference between draw and give. Post Reply
View Profile History	John 6:44 Posted : 18 Oct, 2013 07:15 PM 2Cor 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: It's too bad that others here don't have the discernment to see you for who you really are. It's always been exceedingly clear to me. Just about everything that you promote is 180 degrees out from what the Bible actually teaches. I've shown this many many times. Not once have you ever repented for your errors even after they have been clearly demonstrated. Post Reply
teach_ib View Profile History	John 6:44 Posted : 18 Oct, 2013 07:42 PM I answer to God. I am not here to please you. ***** Romans 14:12�So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. Post Reply
View Profile History	John 6:44 Posted : 18 Oct, 2013 08:33 PM " All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out." -- John 6:37 *** What I find really interesting about this verse in Scripture is that Dr J. Vernon McGee ( A Professed Calvinist ) in one of his radio teachings quotes this verse and says something about it ( Not quoting word per word here )...teaching both the Will of the Father that gives (1st 1/2) and the Free Will of the him (person) that comes (2nd 1/2)...He went on to say...humbly...that he really didn't know why God put that in the Bible...but there it is... X <>< O Post Reply
View Profile History	John 6:44 Posted : 18 Oct, 2013 08:39 PM Shard ~ It's too bad that others here don't have the discernment to see you for who you really are. It's always been exceedingly clear to me. Just about everything that you promote is 180 degrees out from what the Bible actually teaches. I've shown this many many times. Not once have you ever repented for your errors even after they have been clearly demonstrated. *** More precisely.."Not once have you ever repented for your errors even after they have been clearly demonstrated."... *** Have you repented IWA for your errors even after the majority of the folks here have numerously pointed them out to you ???...:goofball: X <>< O Post Reply

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