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When the Father Is Overthrown and the Boys Are Dysfunctional - and Women Teaching Men
Posted : 19 Oct, 2013 07:39 AM
When the Father Is Overthrown and the Boys Are Dysfunctional - and Women Teaching Men
"As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over
them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy
the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3: 12
"But there was none like unto Ahab, which did sell himself to work
wickedness in the sight of the LORD, whom Jezebel his wife stirred
up." I Kings 21: 25
On the other hand, there are several scriptures which say that the man should be the leader of the couple or the family.
"For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head
of the church: and he is the saviour of the body." Ephesians 5: 23
Theodore W. Adorno in his 1950 book, The Authoritarian Personality, said that Christianity and the family cause fascism and must be done away with. All the transformation movements influenced by that book have worked to weaken Christian faith, overthrow the Father as the head of the family and weaken the family as an influence on society. Being a Marxist - and he first mixed Marx with Freud - Adorno had a dialectic mind and what he was doing was opposing fascism in order to promote its dialectic opposite, which is Marxist collectivism and conformity to group think, the hive mentality, which requires a dumbing down of the herd, the majority.
"Once the earthly family is discovered to be the secret of the
heavenly family, the former must be destroyed (annihilated), in theory
and in practice." Karl Marx, Feuerbach Thesis #4
�The authoritarian family becomes the factory in which the state�s
structure and ideology are molded.� Wilhelm Reich, The Mass Psychology of Fascism.
�The conception of the ideal family situation for the child:
uncritical obedience to the father and elders, pressures directed
unilaterally from above to below, inhibition of spontaneity and
emphasis on conformity to externally imposed values.� Theodore. W.
Adorno, The Authoritarian Personality
The hippies and people in the drug movement after about 1962 were not just agnostics and atheists, they were anti-Christian. The hippies were interested in drugs and sex, and opposed Christianity because it called their serial sexual relationships fornication. The entire counterculture revolted against the family. The young people in the counterculture and in the bigger Me Generation sought to become independent of their parents and there was a lot of conflict between these young people and their mothers and fathers.
But it was the feminist, homosexual and lesbian movements which in the seventies were allied with the counterculture to some extent which really worked to diminish the family, overthrow the Father as the authority figure and weaken Christian faith and the influence of Christianity in America.
And - in the broader American culture after the end of the seventies, the feminist, lesbian and homosexual movements exerted a great deal of influence upon the culture since these movements had become politically correct.
There were consequences of these transformational movements, especially the feminist, lesbian and homosexual movements. The boys became dysfunctional and feminized and behave as children to fulfill Isaiah 3: 12, children are the oppressors of the people.
See http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/...#ixzz2SeHMQ7eV
"Four years ago, psychologist Leonard Sax (M.D., Ph.D.) wrote a
well-received book titled Boys Adrift. The doctor tried to answer the
question, why have so many young males fallen into passivity and
indifference?.........."
Something scary is happening to boys today,"
Sax concluded. "From kindergarten to college, American boys are, on
average, less resilient and less ambitious than they were a mere
twenty years ago. The gender gap in college attendance and graduation
rates has widened dramatically."
The book's full title is Boys Adrift: The Five Factors Driving the
Growing Epidemic of Unmotivated Boys and Underachieving Young Men.
Sax lists the five factors right on the cover: "video games, teaching
methods, prescription drugs, environmental toxins, devaluation of
masculinity."
It's worrisome that he seems to like them all. That might be a clue
that he has not solved this mystery. Indeed, let's consider the
possibility that none of these theories is the deep answer we want.
Let's start from scratch and consider the things we know for sure.
First of all, critics have often noted that schools seem organized
more for girls than for boys...........Consider that all school
activity revolves around two basic skills: reading and arithmetic.
Students spend a lot of each day on these and must learn them in order
to advance to any other subjects. Failure in these two subjects
virtually guarantees failure in all subjects, and in all of life.
Perversely, our public schools, for more than 50 years, have used
dysfunctional methods that virtually guarantee failure for the
ordinary boy."
Remember that Transformational Marxist educational psychologist
Benjamin Bloom was the guy who wrote the books that have been used to
certify all American school teachers since about 1956. Some blame the
problem of dumbing down the American generations born after 1945 on
"Government Schools." It is true that Transformational Marxism got
its foot in the door and then marched fully in with a lot of help from
the federal government. But it was that form of Marxism which didn't
call itself Marxism that has helped to mess up the American boys.
When the "boys" are dumbed down, and feminized, they can no longer be
put in a position of leadership of the family and should not be trusted to teach others
Biblical doctrines. A major reason why it is best for men to have the leadership role in
teaching Biblical doctrine and practice is because women, tend to be more concerned with
relationships than with doctrines and positions. Though women do not score lower on
the average On IQ tests, they, or most of them, are not as interested in sticking
to positions on doctrine as are men, on the average. This means that women are easier to
deceive into following doctrines that contradicting scripture than men because most women
are more interested in relationships.
But when the men are feminized, they too are more interested in relationships than in facts
and in the absolute truth of scripture. So they cannot be trusted with teaching others.
Since few men - or women - can be trusted with teaching others Biblical doctrines, because they are more interested in the many relationships they have invested affection in, the result is an increase in the falling away from sound doctrine of II Thessalonians 2: 3-4. The transformational agents have been successful in diminishing the spiritual power of the Christian Gospel, and in severely diminishing the leadership role of the Father in America.
Relationships are with other people, with groups of people, denominations, doctrines that are different than scripture or with things.
Who can be trusted? Well, only a very few men and women who are more interested in absolute truth of the Word of God, can be trusted, and many or most of these people do not become members of the elite, the clergy. Again, in II Thessalonians, but this time in verses 10-12, those who come to have a love of the truth are few. They are not the many on the broad way of Matthew 7: 13. Most of those who have that love of the truth do not go to Bible colleges or Christian seminaries and most of them are not ordained as preachers. In fact, not being members of the clergy and either not having been to Bible colleges or Christian seminaries - of they were in these institutions but got out - means they are not stuck in the 501 C(3) IRS incorporated outfits called the Church. Nevertheless, those of Revelation 12: 17 have the testimony of Jesus Christ and as Daniel 11: 33 says they instruct many.
When the Father Is Overthrown and the Boys Are Dysfunctional - and Women Teaching Men
Posted : 19 Oct, 2013 07:49 AM
Exactly right. --- Isa. 3 is a judgment against Israel. This is the very same thing that is happening to the Apostate churches today. This is why you see the rise in women leadership. It is NOT a good thing. However, in typical fashion, the churches believe they are in the right over this issue because they err not knowing the Scripture. "There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death." Prov. 16:25
Spot on right ----
"it was the feminist, homosexual and lesbian movements which in the seventies were allied with the counterculture to some extent which really worked to diminish the family, overthrow the Father as the authority figure and weaken Christian faith and the influence of Christianity in America."
"And - in the broader American culture after the end of the seventies, the feminist, lesbian and homosexual movements exerted a great deal of influence upon the culture since these movements had become politically correct. "
While you and I do not agree on every point of Scripture, I certainly do respect your diligence and your time and efforts spent to deliver the timeless foundational truths of the Scriptures. May God continue to bless you, brother.
When the Father Is Overthrown and the Boys Are Dysfunctional - and Women Teaching Men
Posted : 19 Oct, 2013 08:58 AM
IWA posted on thread:
why is divorce so rampant and also a last resort to a failed marriage.
Posted : Posted : 11 Oct, 2013 05:49 PM
"Oddly enough, a very similar conversation came up the other day on another forum with largely Reformed men and women. The outcome was quite different with many of the women arguing for the women's duty to submit. "
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Were these women talking and discussing teaching with men in the room/forum? �Is it ok because they are largely reformed?
When the Father Is Overthrown and the Boys Are Dysfunctional - and Women Teaching Men
Posted : 19 Oct, 2013 10:21 AM
The hippies and people in the drug movement after about 1962 were not just agnostics and atheists, they were anti-Christian. The hippies were interested in drugs and sex, and opposed Christianity because it called their serial sexual relationships fornication. The entire counterculture revolted against the family. The young people in the counterculture and in the bigger Me Generation sought to become independent of their parents and there was a lot of conflict between these young people and their mothers and fathers.
*** Interesting�I was born in 1957�so I am a tail end Hippy era raised while all this was going on�oblivious and innocent to the world at that time�
But it was the feminist, homosexual and lesbian movements which in the seventies were allied with the counterculture to some extent which really worked to diminish the family, overthrow the Father as the authority figure and weaken Christian faith and the influence of Christianity in America.
*** YUP!!!...Rebellion run rampant�Ima a mid 70�s Rad Grad�there was no GOD�we all thought we had it all figured out�in reality�it was all a Mad Dash to Go No Where Fast�S-e-x Drugs Rock and Roll�and the Promise of the Free World at your finger tips�satan really pulled the Wool over many eyes�including mine�
And - in the broader American culture after the end of the seventies, the feminist, lesbian and homosexual movements exerted a great deal of influence upon the culture since these movements had become politically correct.
*** I just didn�t understand the leaning here�Politically Correct ?...I still don�t�I turned my back on this culture but never on the people that have yet to hear the Gospel of Christ�Hate the sin�love the sinner�its harder to do than anyone can imagine�Its this kind of Culture ( homo-man-fem-les ) that has caused many a Gal to work harder to co-exist in a �wo-mans� world gone rampantly wild�its no wonder to me that some Gals have become very tough skinned in the world today�my self included�the Lord�s mother Mary is strongest Women that ever walked this earth�to witness first hand�what the sinful world does�
There were consequences of these transformational movements, especially the feminist, lesbian and homosexual movements. The boys became dysfunctional and feminized and behave as children to fulfill Isaiah 3: 12, children are the oppressors of the people.
*** Ya�The boys�the girls�there is always Dysfunction in this world�I am so very Grateful that tho I was lost to the Word of GOD and Isaiah�s prophecy�s�for a season�GOD found me�and called me out of it�and now�
Isa 65:1 I am sought of them that asked not for me; I am found of them that sought me not: I said, Behold me, behold me, unto a nation that was not called by my name.
*** I behold the One True GOD...Thank you Abba�for your Mercy Endures FOREVER�.
When the Father Is Overthrown and the Boys Are Dysfunctional - and Women Teaching Men
Posted : 19 Oct, 2013 11:44 AM
The following Scriptures are the inspired words of God:
I Timothy 2:11: A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, she must be silent.
I Cor 14:33-35: "In *ALL* the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.
However women may witness to men outside of the church as per Acts 18:26: When Priscilla and Aquila heard **him**, they invited *him* to their home and {THEY-plural} explained to him the way of God more adequately."
Since boys do do become "men" in God's Word until they are 12 years old I believe a woman can teach boys 11 years and under in Sunday School.
Women may also teach other women of all ages in Sunday School or in women's only services with boys under 12 present. {See Titus 2:3-5}
I would not consider this Open Forum for all beliefs; to be a "CHURCH"; and since there are women in this forum it is certainly permissable for women to teach God's Word here to other women. If a man doesn't believe a women can teach on this forum since there are men here then he doesn't have to read the women's posts.
Women may not be overseers, deacons or elders as per I Timothy 3:2,8 & Titus 1:6'
Women may witness to men outside of the church as per Acts 18:26: When Priscilla and Aquila heard **HIM**, they invited *HIM* to their home and {THEY-plural} explained to him the way of God more adequately.
If only Aquila explained to *HIM* the way God more adequately then Acts 18:26 would have read: When Priscilla and Aquila heard him, they invited *HIM* to their home and {Aquila} explained to *HIM* the way of God more adequately!!
When the Father Is Overthrown and the Boys Are Dysfunctional - and Women Teaching Men
Posted : 19 Oct, 2013 12:32 PM
"And - in the broader American culture after the end of the seventies, the feminist, lesbian and homosexual movements exerted a great deal of influence upon the culture since these movements had become politically correct."
The major universities made feminism politically correct soon after it began in the very late sixties and early seventies. Universities offered courses in feminism. Lesbianism also became politically correct in the universities. Gradually homosexuality came to be accepted by the Leftist. Of course, by the 21st century homosexuality was so acceptable that some states passed laws allowing people of the same sex to get married.
The leftist movement in the universities was called Political Correctness for a while in the period after the Counterculture. This is Leftist dogmatism. The leftists used to yell and scream about the Right being dogmatic, but as psychologist Milton Rokeach pointed out, the Left is equally dogmatic. That which is politically correct is whatever the Left decides is good. So it decided feminism, lesbianism and homosexuality are all good, and therefore politically correct.
In recent years I have been in contact by E Mail with a few friends of the Purple Decades in Madison. Most of them are artists and were only on the fringes of the Counterculture, being loosely part of the Art Bohemians. None of these people have changed at all from their anti-Christian attitude of 40 to 50 years ago. They are stuck, to some extent, in 1969. Back about 35 years ago a friend, who is a sculptor, asked me "Have you become a Jesus Freak?" These people now in their seventies mostly still see Christians as Jesus Freaks.
When the Father Is Overthrown and the Boys Are Dysfunctional - and Women Teaching Men
Posted : 19 Oct, 2013 01:48 PM
Sometimes I got frustrated because my parents were over protective as I grew up in the 60s and 70s. I look back now and can thank them for teaching me the fundamentals of the Christian life and the value and roles of the family. My upbringing kept me out of much trouble.
Thankfully, I serve a God who can heal the broken hearted and cleanse the dirtiest heart and mind.
When the Father Is Overthrown and the Boys Are Dysfunctional - and Women Teaching Men
Posted : 19 Oct, 2013 03:04 PM
The Leftist movement...I haven't heard that term for some time...Wow...times sure have and then haven't changed...:laugh:...I'm not sure how many folks here have heard about or know of Pastor Chuck Smith of Calvary Chapel...Costa Mesa CA...He "was" (recently passed last week at 3AM in the third watch GOD Bless him)...an instrumental tool during the 70's pertaining to the Jesus Freak movement...people would get all disgusted about the dirty long haired hippies putting their feet up on the backs of the chairs in church...He'd tell his elder congregation to not forbid them...its a miracle they are even here...:bouncy:...of course...I wasn't around that area or could care less at that time..sad to say...but the Truth...
Teach...you are Blessed and a Blessing that you listened...respected...followed the directions of your parents...they raised you right...no doubt about it in my mind...some of us like lil ol me had to go to the Hard Knocks School of the Prodigal persuasion...:glow:...however...the Blood of Christ has cleansed a retched sinner such as I...and others...:yay:...XO
