What do you think: can the Holy Spirit pray for Christians when they say that they pray daily to God in "tongues"?
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My point is:
It is impossible.
When the early Church was baptized by the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost, all spoke in FOREIGN languages/tongues..NOTE: They did NOT bark as we saw it in videos how the Kundalini spirit has Invaded the Church Masquerading as The Holy Spirit! LOL
Look at that again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbVYalAE5-8
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And it was NOT their wish to speak in these tongues but they were MOVED by the Holy Spirit.
Why? What is the purpose of these tongues? - (1) GOSPEL proclamation/powerful Witness to speak in tongues which understand other people/unbelievers who are present in Church for example!
(2) Hearing what the Spirit of God says and it is like the gift of profecy!
I said to Gary:
It is not like what you think when you try to "speak DAILY" to God in payers in "tongues"! Because it would be MADNESS! Why? Because in this case God the Spirit would need to talk to another God -the Father- ONLY WHEN you open your mouth! LOL
He speaks with the Father ANYTIME as this verse says:
Romans 8:26-27
Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit makes intercession for us with groanings which CANNOT be UTTERED. Now He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He makes intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
Summary: I believe in this and will NOT believe anything else except what God said in the Bible. Sorry.
Being deceived by "Christians" regarding these tongues, I prefer to be free from ANY deception and trust ONLY what God says in the Holy Bible.
1Co 14:2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
1Co 14:3 But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.
1Co 14:4 He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.
Notice that he that speaks in tongues edifies himself and that NO MAN can understand it.
I agree for the church it is better to speak in a language that they understand. i would also say something i used to tell my dad, if you do not take care of you, eventually you will not be able to take care of anyone else.
1Pursue love, yet desire earnestly spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy. 2For one who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God; for no one understands, but in his spirit he speaks mysteries. 3But one who prophesies speaks to men for edification and exhortation and consolation.�
What cannot be understood, never can edify. I.e. NO advantage can be reaped from the most excellent discourses, if delivered in language such as the hearers cannot speak or understand.
"Speakes not unto men" because, as a rule, no one understands anything that he says.
Note also: "In the spirit". It is uncertain whether this means "in his own spirit," or "in the Spirit of God," i.e. as a result of inspiration.
"speaketh � unto God"�who alone understands all languages. It is as if he spoke to God. No one could understand him but God.
It is not likely that the Holy Spirit should, in the Church, suddenly inspire a man with the knowledge of some foreign language, which none in the church understood but himself and lead him to treat the mysteries of Christianity in that language, though none in the place could profit by his teaching!
Summary: Why do I discuss this issue? Because my God will PUNISH whose liars who deceived me and MANY other Christians in Church saying that we speak in tongues when in fact we do NOT speak!
God will punish those people through whom the Kundalini spirit has Invaded the Church Masquerading as The Holy Spirit!
MOREOVER, God will punish those liars who deceived themselves and give FALSE interpretations of their "tongues" in Church!
Those, who think that they pray in tongues if the tongues are NOT given anymore to Christians, deceived themselves already and they punished themselves already.
If they give FALSE interpretations of "their tongues" then God will HOLD them accountable too.
That is my point.
You all have to ponder and consider what is the tongue you believe you use daily and whether or not you deceived.
what I have met is deception and lie. God is going to judge these
false prophets who say desires of their hearts on behalf of God.
So, I do not believe that the Spirit of God gives today gifts of prophecies
and tongues as He gave them in the early Church.
Moreover, there is no need for such prophecies today.
I will explain you again what I think.
My point is:
1. Everything is said. There is no need for any new prophecies.
What is new it is not true. There is nothing new in the Bible.
If you need a prophecy, open the Bible and you will see how God talks to
you THROUGH the words of the Bible uttered by Him and written in the Bible already.
2. God does not talk to people DIRECTLY and in audible voice today as to Moses or Isaiah or Daniel..or other prophets.
Why? God talked to Moses and prophets DIRECTLY, after this communication with God, the prophets went to Israel and communicated/gave them what God said.
So, today God told us everything. There is no need for any NEW prophecies to be uttered by average christians or even pastors.
3. If a christian claims that God talked to him directly and said something then any claim of such christian on behalf of God will be judged by Him. You know that already. Moreover, our madhouses are full of patients who claim that they constantly talk to 'god' or hear voices in head.
Do you remember how God warns that any false prophet will be punished by death in the Lake of Fire because they say what God didnt say and they share their desires/dreams what God didnt utter (Jeremiah). I will you some references:
This is what the LORD Almighty says: "Do not listen to what the prophets are prophesying to you; they fill you with false hopes. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the mouth of the LORD.
We disagree and i am not at all fearful of being judged by God, the blood of Jesus is the ONLY door into heaven and i am not at all attempting to deceive anyone just telling my testimony of the relationship i have with my Father in Heaven through His Son Jesus.
Am sorry you have been hurt by people through this teaching. There is a LOT of fake out there but again for about the 5th time the false does not make the true invalid.
i understand however we do disagree over the tongues issue. All i will add about that is don't let the word of man determine what you believe about it. Keep reading the word and God will continue to lead you into all truth.
Jeremiah was a true prophet, he however was not the only one of his day. Ezekiel was alive at that time as was Daniel though their work was done in Babylon and at a later time than most of Jeremiah's work.
The false prophets were in the kings house, eating from the kings table and no doubt sharing in the kings riches. It seems that wealth, fame, and power are the goals of false prophets and false preachers in every age.
The goal of EVERY true prophet in any age is truth.
The fact that the king listened to the well dressed and full prophets he liked and not the true Jeremiah who was locked in the dungeon for a time doesn't mean that Jeremiah was wrong or didn't exist. The fact that he preached against the prophets that were comforting the king didn't disqualify Ezekiel or Daniel's work later.
God bless
Oh and by the way public tongues is by the Holy Spirit in my opinion. Private tongues is an unknown language and more a my spirit to the Holy Spirit communication that is unknown to the devil.
But what I saw in "Christians churches" and "tongues" of Christians is just madness.
I haven't met yet TRUE believers who speak in tongues.
That is why I suppose that tongues are not given anymore...and I explained here and in another removed post why I think so.
Anyway, as I explained already, God will judge who speaks in tongues and not. We considered already HOW it is DANGEROUS to ascribe to God what He didnt utter. That is why knowing that, we have to ponder and OBEY God. We considered that and NOW we have to IMPLEMENT that.
