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Learning the truth about the "end times"
Posted : 28 Nov, 2013 05:49 AM

Learning the truth of the Bible removes a lot of the drama from the prophecies swirling around many of the end time scenarios we hear on the discovery channel, and are the same teachings being taught on Sunday in many of today�s churches.



It pays to learn the definitions associated with words translated into English and keep in mind the kingdom of heaven is within us. Therefore, the kingdom of earth that is ruled over by the prince and power of the air is also within us. Fortunately, Jesus has provided the way for us to overcome the world (the earthly kingdom in us) the same as He overcame all things including life and death. However, this cannot be done through our strength or might �but by my spirit saith the Lord�



The definition behind the word translated in the New Testament as �anti-� simply means �in place of�. Consequently, if Christ is not the Lord of our heart then the �antichrist� is the one ruling over our heart. In Matt. 2:22 when Joseph heard that Herod�s son reigned in place of his father, the same Greek word (Strongs #473) �antee� appears in the original text to describe the son sitting on the throne the same as his father had done. Meanwhile, because we are the only temples that are ever going to matter, Christians who expect Jesus to return to a temple in Jerusalem where He will rule over the earth are never going to see their hopes come true.



In Thessalonians where we see the term �man of sin� coming into the temple claiming to be God, is not some sort of end time Superman of sin entering a temple that does yet exist, but instead is the spirit of man retaking the heart of the Christian, Therefore, instead of Jesus Christ being one in their heart and mind (our throne room) ruling over them, the unclean spirit of man aka �Adam in us,� a.k.a the �man of sin who is already sentenced to death and condemned to living a life under the influence of Satan, is the one ruling within the Christian�s heart. (even after said Christian has been baptized with the Holy Spirit) Incidentally this is the message within the parable of the unclean spirit told by Jesus in Matt.12 & Luke 11



Six is the number of man, (created on the 6th day) and the sum of man is made from three parts appearing together as one. More specifically said is each person is a body, spirit, and soul appearing together as one. Because we have the body of a man who has the mind (soul) of man that comes from the spirit of the man, when all are seen together as a person, they appear mathematically as the one number of 666. This is known as the mark of the beast because any non-regenerated man �is no different than a beast,� (see Prov. 12:10, Eccl. 3:18-21) and when we see this number on the forehead represents the mind of man. By the same token when seen on the hand represents the works of man.



Finally, when we see this �mark� being required to �buy or sell� as in �give or receive� is when you walk into a church where the only thing already being taught, and the only acceptable doctrines you are allowed to speak of is their particular version of the traditions of man. In this case Satan has already taken away the truth from the church because the mind of man is controlled by Satan whose job in the church is to replace the truth with false doctrines.



Dear Brothers and Sisters, the �falling away� already happened a long time ago, and the prophets and the apostles warned us about the false prophets and wolves already in the church before the time of the death of the last apostle. The death of the last apostle(s) who were the guardians of the true appears in Thessalonians as �when he �who letteth let� is let is taken out of the way� because when we understand the definition of the words being translated here they describe the guardian of the truth being removed that allows the man of sin aka �antichrist to take over the worship coming from the church. This is not the Holy Spirit being taken of the earth through �the rapture� that is a doctrine straight from Satan being taught by the �tail of the dragon� who is speaking from the pulpit every Sunday in far too many churches



The truth is the church today should be absolutely no different than the first century church. In other words the same miracles associated with the first century church should be seen today because a body of Christians being led by elders worshiping in spirit and in truth can reasonably expect God to answer their prayers with miracles when a divine healing being prayed for is needed by a church member. If this is not the case in your church then something is missing from it.



The heart of the Christian is the place that Jesus through the Holy Spirit has come into making it the �place prepared,� that is not a mansion on a street made of gold on the other side of the universe, but a heart for God �in heaven on earth�. We are his building and what Christians have to decide for themselves is are they going to settle for being in a one-room bungalow status quo source of praise, or are they going to become one of the �many mansions� of praise such as Moses, Abraham, David and the rest of the apostles and prophets of the Scriptures who are already �in my father's house�.



Praise the Lord



Blessings, and much love in Christ Jesus



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Posted : 28 Nov, 2013 09:27 AM

Interesting article Doug...it all sounds good...however I don't agree with much it...esp this statement you or the article shared..



Therefore, the kingdom of earth that is ruled over by the prince and power of the air is also within us.



*** If Born Again from Above as Yahshua aka Jesus Commands...there is no prince or power of air that is in us...For we are Born Anew of the Holy Spirit...some my continue to sin for it is the Flesh that sins...not the Spirit of the LORD...Be Blessed...xo

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Posted : 28 Nov, 2013 10:08 AM

GJ,



The word "sin" is not just a verb but is also a noun that identifies it as a principality that is defined as a life giving source within us albeit one sentenced to death (because of sin)



This is the "sin" that Paul says was alive in him causing him to do what he did not want to do and kept him from doing what he did want to do. (Ro.7:23)



This "sin" living in all of mankind is under Satan's authority was handed down from Adam to us via the law of the seed that was already in place before Adam and His seed inherited the earth. Consequently, this sin seed from Sata by law had to appear in Adam's children that reflected Adam's and Eve's fallen nature and why all of us "must be "born again" not of an earthly seed but a heavenly seed that is "Christ the seed in us" found in the Blood shed for us on the Cross being sprinkled upon our hearts



Christ rules over His seed but Satan rules overs His seed found in spirits and soul of all natural born mankind. These are the kingdoms of the world Satan said were given to Him that he maintains authority over back when he tried to tempt Jesus. For sure there was no actual physical hilltop where all of the kingdoms of the world could be viwed at the same time. The obvious here should be we are speaking of spiritual kingdoms that live within us in the same manner Jesus said the kingdom of heaven is within us



When Satan successfully got Adam and Eve to eat the fruit from the trees of good and evil they consumed the seeds within the fruit that by law will produce more of the same from each of the good and evil knowledge. Therefore, Adam and Eve reproduced good and evil seen in the form of Abel and Cain the same as all of mankind can produce good but cannot help but to produce evil at satan's whim.



For matter the only thing that can withhold how far Satan can go in his attempts to cause us to fail is however far God allows him to go......... this is one of the lessons in Job



I know some Christians do not like to admit that there is a evil seed living in them but that does not change the facts..........The same law of sin (it is called law of sin because it is always present the same way the law of gravity is always present) is not the same law given to moses that is a righteous law but weak because it cannot make the flesh righteous. In 2nd Corr Paul calls this law of sin in him to be the thorn in his side that is the "messenger of Satan".



Thorns in side are a reference to the sins God said would be visited upon Israel for not getting rid of all the prior inhabitants of the promised land ........... with the obvious prophecy seen by us still having to deal with temptations and sin even after being baptized with the Holy Spirit



For sure we are no better than Paul



I hope this helps some but if not let me know where the problem is. If you need help finding where any of the above terms appear in the Bible a search engine for a KJV should work sucfficent. If not let me know



Blessings to you,



Doug

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Posted : 28 Nov, 2013 10:14 AM

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If and when I would ever post something of which I am not the author, I wlill give credit to who the author is and where the article can be found.

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Posted : 28 Nov, 2013 04:58 PM

WILL THE RESURRECTION OF THE CHURCH SAINTS OCCUR ON THE SAME LAST DAY AS THE RESURRECTION OF THE LOST??



John 6:40� Jesus says, �For my Father�s will is that EVERYONE who looks to the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the *LAST DAY*!�



John 6:44: Jesus says, �No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him, and I will raise him up at the *LAST DAY!�



Pre-tribbers believe that the *LAST DAY* mentioned 6 times in John 6:39,40,44,54;11:24,12:48 refers to a CONCEALED RESURRECTION 7 years *BEFORE THE LAST DAY*. However, John 12:48 shows that the lost will also be condemned on that same *LAST DAY*!



*WHEN WILL THE LOST BE JUDGED AND SENT TO HELL*?



John 12:48: Jesus says, �There is a Judge for the one who rejects Me and does not accept My words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the *LAST DAY*!!�



2 Thess 1:1,6-10: �To the *CHURCH* of the Thessalonians�God is just; He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you and give relief to you who are troubled, and to us as well. This will happen *WHEN* the Lord Jesus is *REVEALED* from heaven in blazing fire with His powerful **ANGELS*�. He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They will be punished with everlasting *DESTRUCTION* and shut out from the presence of the Lord *ON THE DAY HE COMES* to be glorified in His holy people...this includes you!!�



Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, "The Son of Man is going to come in His Father's glory with His **ANGELS** , and **THEN** He will reward each person according to what he has done!"



John 5:28,29: Jesus says, �Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming {The Last Day} when *ALL* {Both OT & NT Saints} who are in their graves will hear His voice and come out�those who have done good will rise to live, and those who have done evil will rise to be condemned.�



Daniel 12:1b,2,7b: �There will be a time of distress {The Great Tribulation} such as not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time {The Last Day} your people--*EVERYONE* whose name is found written in the Book {Both OT & NT Saints}�will be delivered. Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt�It will be for a time. times and half a time {1260 days-Rev 12:6,14, or 42 {30-day} months-Rev 13:5-{Not 7 years} *ALL* these things will be *COMPLETED.



Revelation 1:7: Look, He is coming with the clouds, and *EVERY* eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him..So shall it be!!



At he 2nd Coming of Jesus all the lost of all ages will be awakened to see Jesus coming on the clouds. At this time all of God's saints will receive their new heavenly bodies and participate in the Marraige Feast of the Lamb.



Then Jesus will mount a Great white horse and all the saints of all ages will follow Him on white horses and 666 and his False prophet will be thrown alive into hell and all their armies conquered.



Then we will have the Judgment seat of Christ for the saints and the lost will be resurrected and judged thrown alive into hell.



Then the present heavens and earth will be completely destroyed and there will be New Heavens and a New Earth and the Eternal Heavenly New Jerusalem.



The continuous heavenly 1,000 year First Resurrection will end at the 2nd coming of Jesus and is for the MARTYS LIKE JESUS and the 24 Elders on thrones only. There will not be a 1,000 year earthly Ezekiel Temple which has thousands of sacrifices for sins since Jesus put an end to all sacrifes and offerings for sins.



The pre-tribbers wrongly believe that the OT saints will receive their eternal perfect heavenly bodies 7 years AFTER the Church saints. However, in Hebrews 11:39,40 we read �These {OT super saints mentioned in Heb 11:4-38} were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised. God had planned something better for us so that ONLY TOGETHER WITH US {NT Saints} would they {OT Saints} be made perfect!�



Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: �**WHEN** the Son of Man {The Lamb} comes in His glory, and all the **ANGELS** {See Matt 24:29-31} with Him, He will sit on **HIS THRONE** in Heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him and He will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on His right and the goats on the left.�



�*THEN* the King will say to those on the right, �Come you who are blessed by My Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world.� {The New Jerusalem with its New Heaven and New Earth�See Rev 21:1-5 & 2 Peter 3:10-13}



�**THEN* He will say to those on His left, �Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.� ....�*THEN* they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.�



Matthew 13:40-43: Jesus says, �As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it wil be at the **END OF THE AGE**. The Son of man will send out His **ANGELS**, and they will weed out of His kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. They will throw them into the firey furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. **THEN** the righteous will shine like the sun in the Kingdom of their Father. He who has ears, let him hear."



"FLESH AND BLOOD CANNOT INHERIT THE *KINGDOM* OF GOD!!"



Hebrews 12:26-28: God says, "Once more I will shake not only the earth but also the heavens. The words "once more" indicate the removing of what can be shaken--that is created things--so that what cannot be shaken may remain. Therefore, since we are receiving a *KINGDOM* that can not be shaken let us be thankful...for our God is a consuming fire!



2 Peter 3:10-13: But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will DISAPPEAR with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and *EVERYTHING* in it will be burned up {NIV}. Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives as you wait eagerly for the Day of God to come. {NIV} That Day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with His promise **WE** {Excluding the Preterists and the Historicists} are looking forward to a New heavens and a New Earth, the home of righteousness.



I Corinthians 15:50--51: I declare to you brothers, that flesh and blood CANNOT INHERIT the *KINGDOM OF GOD*... Listen I tell you a mystery: we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet."



John 18:36: Jesus says, "My *KINGDOM* is not of this world....But now, my Kingdom is from another place!!"



Matthew 25:31-34: Jesus says, "When the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the angels with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people on from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. Then the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!"



WE ARE ALL WAITING FOR THE NEW EARTH, THE NEW HEAVENS AND THE HEAVENLY NEW JERUSALEM!!



Revelation 21:1-5: Then I saw a New heaven and a New Earth, for the {present} first heaven and first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the **NEW JERUSALEM**, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and He will live with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes, There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away." He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making **EVERYTHING NEW**!" Then He said, "Write this down, for these words are TRUSTWORTHY and TRUE!"



2 Peter 3:10-13: But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will DISAPPEAR with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and *EVERYTHING* in it will be burned up {NIV}. Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives as you wait eagerly for the Day of God to come. {NIV} That Day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with His promise **WE** {Excluding the Preterists and the RC church} are looking forward to a New heavens and a New Earth, the home of righteousness.



Hebrews 11:13-16: All these people {Abraham, Sarah Isaac, Jacob, Noah etc} were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised; they only saw them from a distance. And they admitted that they were aliens and strangers on earth. People who say such things show they are looking for a country of their own. If they had been thinking of the country they had left, they would have had opportunity to return. Instead, they were looking for a BETTER COUNTRY--a HEAVENLY ONE. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a *CITY* (The *NEW JERUSALEM*} for them!!



Galatians 4:25,26: Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. But the **JERUSALEM** that is **ABOVE** is free, and she is our MOTHER !!



Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches.....I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this Book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book {Including eternel hell}. And if anyone takes *WORDS AWAY* {Like the Preterists and the RC church} from this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The **NEW JERUSALEM**}, which are described in this Book.!!"



Revelation 22 :1-5: Then the angel showed me the river of the Water of Life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and the Lamb {Jesus} down the middle of the great street of the City. On each side of the river stood the Tree of Life, bearing 12 crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month... The throne of God and of the Lamb will be in the City, and his servants will serve Him. They will see His face and His name will be on their foreheads. There will be no more night!! They will not need the light of the lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign for ever and ever. The angel said to me, �These words are TRUSTWORTHY and TRUE!!�



JESUS WILL WRITE ON US THE NAME OF THE CITY OF GOD THE *NEW JERUSALEM*!!



Revelation 2:18; 3:12,21: Jesus says, "To him who overcomes I will give him a white stone with a new name written on it, known only to him who receives it...And I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will he leave it. I will write on him the name of the City of My God, the NEW JERUSALEM, which is coming down out of heaven from My God....And I will give the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne."



According to Revelation 22:3 the only 2 thrones in the New Jerusalem will be the thrones of the Father and of the Lamb Jesus Christ.



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Posted : 30 Nov, 2013 06:29 AM

@prophetic774



Apparently the reason why I do not post on your threads has not resonated with you.



Doug

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