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�Out of the Water�
Posted : 20 Apr, 2014 02:15 PM

Exo 2:10 And the child grew, and she brought him unto Pharaoh's daughter, and he became her son. And she called his name Moses: and she said, [[[ Because I drew him out of the water. ]]]



*** AMAZING !!!...:angel:..



*** The verses to follow must be presented in Context because if Jesus is Baptised and God makes it clear in all these Scriptures then why do some folks have the need to say it isn�t so ???...must be because they Preach and Teach other than Christ Jesus�



Matthew 3:13-17

John Baptizes Jesus

13 Then Jesus came from Galilee to John at the Jordan to be baptized by him.

14 And John tried to prevent Him, saying, �I need to be baptized by You, and are You coming to me?�

15 But Jesus answered and said to him, �Permit it to be so now, for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness.� Then he allowed Him.

16 When He had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He[a] saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him. 17 And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, �This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.�



Same here�



Mark 1:7-11

7 And he preached, saying, �There comes One after me who is mightier than I, whose sandal strap I am not worthy to stoop down and loose.

8 I indeed baptized you with water, but He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit.�

John Baptizes Jesus

9 It came to pass in those days that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized by John in the Jordan.

10 And immediately, coming up from[a] the water, He saw the heavens parting and the Spirit descending upon Him like a dove.

11 Then a voice came from heaven, �You are My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.�



Same here�



Acts 8:34-39

34 So the eunuch answered Philip and said, �I ask you, of whom does the prophet say this, of himself or of some other man?�

35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and beginning at this Scripture, preached Jesus to him.

36 Now as they went down the road, they came to some water. And the eunuch said, �See, here is water. What hinders me from being baptized?�

37 Then Philip said, �If you believe with all your heart, you may.�

And he answered and said, �I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.�[a]

38 So he commanded the chariot to stand still. And both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water, and he baptized him. 39 Now when they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught Philip away, so that the eunuch saw him no more; and he went on his way rejoicing.



Same here�



2 Peter 3:2-7

2 that you may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us,[a] the apostles of the Lord and Savior,

3 knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts,

4 and saying, �Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.�

5 For this they willfully forget: that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water,

6 by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water.

7 But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.



*** Is one to believe that the Water spoken of in the above verses in 2 Peter 3:2-7 is of Baptisim ???...Nope�it is a Destruction of the Old and Sinfulness�and Today�The LIVING Water is LIFE�



John 4:12-14

12 Are You greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well, and drank from it himself, as well as his sons and his livestock?�

13 Jesus answered and said to her, �Whoever drinks of this water will thirst again,



*** Thats the water that has no LIFE...the Old...Sinfulness...



14 but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will never thirst. But the water that I shall give him will become in him a fountain of water springing up into everlasting life.�



*** Im betting on Yahshua�aka�Jesus and HIS Way�Truth�Life�"EverLasting LIFE... :bouncy:... X <>< O

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�Out of the Water�
Posted : 21 Apr, 2014 02:52 AM

Hi Jude:



John 1:29 On the morrow, John sees Jesus coming toward him and said, Behold! The Lamb of God, taking away the sin of the world!

John 1:30 This is He about whom I said, After me comes a Man who has been before me, for He was preceding me.

John 1:31 And I did not know Him; but that He be revealed to Israel, for this reason I came baptizing in water.



John 1:32 And John witnessed, saying, I have seen the Spirit coming down as a dove out of Heaven, and He abode on Him.

John 1:33 And I did not know Him, but the One sending me to baptize in water, that One said to me, On whomever you see the Spirit coming down and abiding on Him, this is the One baptizing in the Holy Spirit.

John 1:34 And I have seen and have witnessed that this One is the Son of God.



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Posted : 21 Apr, 2014 05:34 AM

:waving:...Hi George...the topic is "out of the water"...meaning Baptizim in "Water"...Obviously...however...if youd like to discuss something other than this such as the Holy Spirit Baptizim which is what the verse you posted are about that would be a good discussion please start another Thread...thanxs

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Posted : 21 Apr, 2014 07:16 AM

:applause:



Happy to see you are back. :yay:

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Posted : 21 Apr, 2014 03:15 PM

Hi Jude:



I believe that you are the one that did not understand the Scripture i had posted.



Yeshua having been baptized by John, was for Johns benefit, and the benefit of Israel.

John states that he did not KNOW Messiah;The Father told John that the one on whom the Spirit rested,He was the Messiah.



John 1:29 On the morrow, John sees Jesus coming toward him and said, Behold! The Lamb of God, taking away the sin of the world!

John 1:30 This is He about whom I said, After me comes a Man who has been before me, for He was preceding me.

John 1:31 And I did not know Him; but that He be revealed to Israel, for this reason I came baptizing in water.

John 1:32 And John witnessed, saying, I have seen the Spirit coming down as a dove out of Heaven, and He abode on Him.

John 1:33 And I did not know Him, but the One sending me to baptize in water, that One said to me, On whomever you see the Spirit coming down and abiding on Him, this is the One baptizing in the Holy Spirit.

John 1:34 And I have seen and have witnessed that this One is the Son of God.





Yep Blessings

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Posted : 21 Apr, 2014 04:46 PM

????...:rolleyes:...xo

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Posted : 23 Apr, 2014 01:22 PM

*** The verses to follow must be presented in Context because if Jesus is Baptised and God makes it clear in all these Scriptures then why do some folks have the need to say it isn�t so ???...must be because they Preach and Teach other than Christ Jesus�







Matthew 3:13-17



John Baptizes Jesus



13 Then Jesus came from Galilee to John at the Jordan to be baptized by him.



14 And John tried to prevent Him, saying, �I need to be baptized by You, and are You coming to me?�



15 But Jesus answered and said to him, �Permit it to be so now, for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness.� Then he allowed Him.



16 When He had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He[a] saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him. 17 And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, �This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.�







Same here�







Mark 1:7-11



7 And he preached, saying, �There comes One after me who is mightier than I, whose sandal strap I am not worthy to stoop down and loose.



8 I indeed baptized you with water, but He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit.�



John Baptizes Jesus



9 It came to pass in those days that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized by John in the Jordan.



10 And immediately, coming up from[a] the water, He saw the heavens parting and the Spirit descending upon Him like a dove.



11 Then a voice came from heaven, �You are My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.�







Same here�







Acts 8:34-39



34 So the eunuch answered Philip and said, �I ask you, of whom does the prophet say this, of himself or of some other man?�



35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and beginning at this Scripture, preached Jesus to him.



36 Now as they went down the road, they came to some water. And the eunuch said, �See, here is water. What hinders me from being baptized?�



37 Then Philip said, �If you believe with all your heart, you may.�



And he answered and said, �I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.�[a]



38 So he commanded the chariot to stand still. And both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water, and he baptized him. 39 Now when they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught Philip away, so that the eunuch saw him no more; and he went on his way rejoicing.







Same here�







2 Peter 3:2-7



2 that you may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us,[a] the apostles of the Lord and Savior,



3 knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts,



4 and saying, �Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.�



5 For this they willfully forget: that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water,



6 by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water.



7 But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.







*** Is one to believe that the Water spoken of in the above verses in 2 Peter 3:2-7 is of Baptisim ???...Nope�it is a Destruction of the Old and Sinfulness�and Today�The LIVING Water is LIFE�







John 4:12-14



12 Are You greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well, and drank from it himself, as well as his sons and his livestock?�



13 Jesus answered and said to her, �Whoever drinks of this water will thirst again,







*** Thats the water that has no LIFE...the Old...Sinfulness...







14 but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will never thirst. But the water that I shall give him will become in him a fountain of water springing up into everlasting life.�







*** Im betting on Yahshua�aka�Jesus and HIS Way�Truth�Life�"EverLasting LIFE...



Hi Jude:

I see that you ave some Scripture telling that Messiah was Baptized,yet you have not mentioned WHY Yeshua was baptized.



Also where in the Word of GOD Almighty did Messiah tell His LEARNERS to baptize people in water.



Blessings

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Posted : 23 Apr, 2014 02:23 PM

Thanks for repasting all that as it is very important to understand...



Moving forward here is Scripture you asked for...



John 3:4-6 (KJV)

4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

*** Please don�t tell me you are one of those that believe Jesus is speaking of Amniotic Fluid here�because He is not�If He is He would be saying so as Nicodemus made reference to the �Womb���koilia�

You say you study Greek and yet you do not understand the �Meaning� of the Greek word and what it represents and where it placed in the context of the Scripture�

Water � hydor - G5204

1. water

1. of water in rivers, in fountains, in pools

2. of the water of the deluge

3. of water in any of the earth's repositories

4. of water as the primary element, out of and through which the world that was before the deluge, arose and was compacted

5. of the waves of the sea

6. fig. used of many peoples

From �root� word � hyetos- G5205 � means Rain�nothing more than regular H20 !!!



*** Please stop peddling False Interpretations of Scripture�



6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.



Flesh � sarx � G4561 �

1. flesh (the soft substance of the living body, which covers the bones and is permeated with blood) of both man and beasts

2. the body the animal nature with cravings which incite to sin



Spirit � pneuma � G4151 �

1. the third person of the triune God, the Holy Spirit, coequal, coeternal with the Father and the Son

From root word - pneo - G4154 - to breathe, to blow - of the wind



*** I�m really getting to see just how so many people today are being deceived as to what Scripture is saying�Jesus was Baptized in a River of Water�was He not ???...He received the Holy Spirit (The Dove Lighted on HIM as John bore Witness)�Did He not ???



*** People go online and read all kinds of Hooy Fooy stuff about someone else�s interpretations of Scriptures instead of Just reading it and asking the Lord for the Truth...which is why tell all come up this kind of None-Sense...instead they want to Squish and Squash making it of none effect�I wish them all the luck in world because they are going to need it�



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Posted : 23 Apr, 2014 03:48 PM

Hi Jude:



I do not believe you had answered the two questions which i had posed.



1. I see that you have some Scripture telling that Messiah was Baptized,yet you have not mentioned WHY Yeshua was baptized.







2. Also where in the Word of GOD Almighty did Messiah tell His LEARNERS to baptize people in water.







Blessings







GodsJude

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Posted : Posted : 23 Apr, 2014 02:23 PM



Thanks for repasting all that as it is very important to understand...







Moving forward here is Scripture you asked for...







John 3:4-6 (KJV)



4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?



5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.



*** Please don�t tell me you are one of those that believe Jesus is speaking of Amniotic Fluid here�because He is not�If He is He would be saying so as Nicodemus made reference to the �Womb���koilia�



You say you study Greek and yet you do not understand the �Meaning� of the Greek word and what it represents and where it placed in the context of the Scripture�



Water � hydor - G5204



1. water



1. of water in rivers, in fountains, in pools



2. of the water of the deluge



3. of water in any of the earth's repositories



4. of water as the primary element, out of and through which the world that was before the deluge, arose and was compacted



5. of the waves of the sea



6. fig. used of many peoples



From �root� word � hyetos- G5205 � means Rain�nothing more than regular H20 !!!







*** Please stop peddling False Interpretations of Scripture�







6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.







Flesh � sarx � G4561 �



1. flesh (the soft substance of the living body, which covers the bones and is permeated with blood) of both man and beasts



2. the body the animal nature with cravings which incite to sin







Spirit � pneuma � G4151 �



1. the third person of the triune God, the Holy Spirit, coequal, coeternal with the Father and the Son



From root word - pneo - G4154 - to breathe, to blow - of the wind







*** I�m really getting to see just how so many people today are being deceived as to what Scripture is saying�Jesus was Baptized in a River of Water�was He not ???...He received the Holy Spirit (The Dove Lighted on HIM as John bore Witness)�Did He not ???







*** People go online and read all kinds of Hooy Fooy stuff about someone else�s interpretations of Scriptures instead of Just reading it and asking the Lord for the Truth...which is why tell all come up this kind of None-Sense...instead they want to Squish and Squash making it of none effect�I wish them all the luck in world because they are going to need it�



Hi Jude:



I see that you have some Scripture telling that Messiah was Baptized,yet you have not mentioned WHY Yeshua was baptized.







Also where in the Word of GOD Almighty did Messiah tell His LEARNERS to baptize people in water.







Blessings

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Posted : 23 Apr, 2014 09:36 PM

OK...George...now I know you are one of those that believe that Jesus is talking about Amnionic Fluid even though I've shown you that He is not...thats ok...you are not alone in that belief...even though it is not Biblical...xo

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Posted : 24 Apr, 2014 02:29 AM

Hi Jude:



Can we do this just ONE more time.





I see that you have some Scripture telling that Messiah was Baptized,yet you have not mentioned WHY Yeshua was baptized.





Also where in the Word of GOD Almighty did Messiah tell His LEARNERS to baptize people in water.





Blessings

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