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The Parable of the Two Fathers: Whose your spiritual Father, God (YHWH) or the Devil (STN)..?
Posted : 25 Apr, 2014 06:47 AM

"And with many such parables spake He the word unto them, as they were able to hear it. But without a parable spake He not unto them: and when they were alone, He expounded all things unto His disciples." Mark 4:33-34



Are you using parables every time you talk, as did Messiah? If not then you have some serious problems, because every lesson of the word that Messiah communicated involved parables in the teaching and comprehension.



If you do not know what a parable is, and yet you claim to be a disciple, what do you base your being a disciple upon, if it is not the same parabolic messages that Messiah utilized, and which the disciples were taught - alone - to comprehend..?



This brings us to another point. How is it that there are some of you that are claiming that the truth may be known to ALL, when it is made clear that the mysteries of the parables were communicated only to the disciples?



How can it be that it is written that Messiah taught by parables and that without a parable He taught nothing, and there be people who claim to be followers or disciples, and yet they do not know one thing about what a parable is..?



What is a parable?



It is "a lesson in wisdom using knowledge that is comprehended by two parts."



Do you comprehend every thing in the word by the contrasting aspect of parabolic wisdom..?



Do you seek to enable another to comprehend every thing written in the word by comprehending every aspect of this parabolic wisdom?



Here are a few of examples of parabolic wisdom explained in the scripture. Since you are a follower or disciple, ask yourself this question, "Why haven't I heard of these examples of parabolic knowledge and wisdom, if I am a true follower or disciple of Jesus the Christ, Yahushua Ha'Mashiach?



MEN ARE BORN RIGHTEOUS AND WICKED FROM THE WOMB



1.) The Righteous are born righteous, with God being their God from their mother's wombs, and the Wicked are born wicked, demonstrating their spiritual wickedness and nature from their mother's wombs:



"But thou art He that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope upon my mother's brea-ts. I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother's belly." Psalms 22:9-10



"The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born speaking lies." Psalms 58:3



THERE ARE TWO SPIRITUAL FATHERS OF MEN AND WOMEN, GOD AND THE DEVIL



Here we see Jesus, for those who are going to claim that the use of text from the Old Testament is not applicable when interpreting the text of the New Testament, telling the Jews that He knows that their spiritual Father is not God but the Devil. Why would Jesus teach that there are two fathers, and yet this is not comprehended by those claiming to be followers or disciples?



I mean, if you are His follower or disciple, aren't you aware that you and He have the same spiritual father, and that there is another spiritual father - the Devil - who is definitely not your spiritual father..?



GOD AS A SPIRITUAL FATHER



"Jesus said unto them, 'If God were your father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but He sent me. Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. " John 8:42-43



THE DEVIL AS A SPIRITUAL FATHER



"But ye are of your father the Devil, and the lusts of your father ye do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar and the father of it." John 8:44



Where is the parabolic wisdom of the two fathers teaching their offspring, on this site, in any of these posts, if these who are doing all of this writing, are true followers or disciples?:



"I speak that which I have seen with my father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father." John 8:38



Are you aware that men have two different spiritual fathers, God the Father, and Satan the Father, and that they began dwelling in men right after the Fall? This is the mystery of Cain and Abel.

True believers are marked by a nature of love, not hate. God is love and His offspring are known by the love they show one another. The Devil's offspring, on the other hand, are filled with hate, the nature of the Devil. This is why John the beloved would write, "Cain was of that wicked one (the Devil or Satan)":



"For this is the message that ye have heard from the beginning, that ye should love one another. Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous." I John 3:11-12



Whose is your spiritual Father, God or the Devil?



It was this esoteric message of their being two spiritual fathers, and that men are born to manifest one or the either that caused the Jews, who were the Devil's Seed in Messiah's generation, to say to the people, who were blind and in darkness as they were, "he has come to change the writings of the Torah (law)".



The Greatest Parable of All is that God the Father was dwelling in His sons from Adam onward, and the Jews proved that they were not truly of the anointed, because they were not taught these mysteries by the One Named YHWH or Elohim:



"And it is written in the prophets, 'and they shall all be taught by God (Elohim). Every man therefore that hath heard and learned of the Father, cometh unto me." John 6:45

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The Parable of the Two Fathers: Whose your spiritual Father, God (YHWH) or the Devil (STN)..?
Posted : 26 Apr, 2014 04:40 AM

Not bad except that:

"MEN ARE BORN RIGHTEOUS AND WICKED FROM THE WOMB".



This is just a metaphor.

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The Parable of the Two Fathers: Whose your spiritual Father, God (YHWH) or the Devil (STN)..?
Posted : 26 Apr, 2014 04:45 AM

Moreover: Psalm 22 speaks about JESUS- the Messiah.

That is why these words are applied ONLY to Him.



The wicked are estranged from the womb;

They go astray as soon as they are born, speaking lies.

This is a metaphor showing us that all people and children could sin and tend to sin.



Tell us better HOW to understand who is a son of devil and who is born of God?

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The Parable of the Two Fathers: Whose your spiritual Father, God (YHWH) or the Devil (STN)..?
Posted : 26 Apr, 2014 12:19 PM

My answers to my questions: how to know if your father is God or the Commander of the fallen angels Satan?



Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness:angel: is righteous, just as He is righteous :angel::angel:

Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God:angel:.



In this the children of God :applause:and the children of the devil :angeldevil: are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness :angel:is not of God, nor is he who does not love:hearts: his brother.



or this is the message that you heard from the beginning, that we should love:hearts: one another



And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love :hearts:one another, as He gave us commandment.



Now he who keeps His commandments:angel::hearts: abides in Him, and He in him.



1 John 3



3 Behold what manner of love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be called children of God![a] Therefore the world does not know us,[b] because it did not know Him. 2 Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is. 3 And everyone who has this hope in Him purifies himself, just as He is pure.

Sin and the Child of God



4 Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness. 5 And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin. 6 Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him.



7 Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. 8 He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. 9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

The Imperative of Love



10 In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is he who does not love his brother. 11 For this is the message that you heard from the beginning, that we should love one another, 12 not as Cain who was of the wicked one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his works were evil and his brother�s righteous.



13 Do not marvel, my brethren, if the world hates you. 14 We know that we have passed from death to life, because we love the brethren. He who does not love his brother[c] abides in death. 15 Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.

The Outworking of Love



16 By this we know love, because He laid down His life for us. And we also ought to lay down our lives for the brethren. 17 But whoever has this world�s goods, and sees his brother in need, and shuts up his heart from him, how does the love of God abide in him?



18 My little children, let us not love in word or in tongue, but in deed and in truth. 19 And by this we know[d] that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before Him. 20 For if our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and knows all things. 21 Beloved, if our heart does not condemn us, we have confidence toward God. 22 And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight. 23 And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us[e] commandment.

The Spirit of Truth and the Spirit of Error



24 Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.

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The Parable of the Two Fathers: Whose your spiritual Father, God (YHWH) or the Devil (STN)..?
Posted : 27 Apr, 2014 07:02 AM

Praise Abba that you are seeing the truth.



Did you know that Jesus did not teach anything..?



Jesus did not teach one thing~



The "Jews", those who were of the Devil's Seed in Messiah's generation (there are to be 1,000 generations of the Sons of Darkness and Light - Psalms 105:8) had taken the writings of the anointed and were using them to control men and to generate fictitious capital for the Devil's kingdom. They had set up the corporate system in Jerusalem and were teaching historical Judaism as Torah. In John 7 we see Messiah walking in the Temple and some of the Jews wanted to know how it was that Jesus knew so much about the Torah, more than they did, but he had never attended a Yeshiva. The rabbis you will recall originated when the Jews came back from Babylon in 536BCE. They were lying to the people, telling them that what they claimed was Torah, was truth. Truth was Who was dwelling in Messiah, Who taught from within Him.



"Now about the midst of the feast Jesus went up into the Temple and taught. And the Jews marveled saying, 'How knoweth this man letters, having never learned?



Jesus answered them, and said, 'My doctrine is not mine, but His that sent me. If any man will do His will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or I speak of myself." John 7:15-7



Here is the mystery of Jesus speaking but yet having no doctrine to teach..



It was the Father speaking out of Him. If you will go to John 14, you will see and read this. Philip asks Jesus "show us the Father". You hear the Father speak to Philip, who is one of His sons, in which the Father also dwells, "Philip, have I been with you for so long and yet you do not know Me?" Jesus then tells Philip, that the voice he heard from inside of Him (Jesus) is none other than the Father, Who is residing in and dwelling in Jesus, as He was dwelling in Philip, too, though Philip did not comprehend this:



"Believest thou not that I am in the Father and the Father is in me?the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself, but the Father that DWELLETH IN ME, He doeth the works." John 14:10



This is the reason why Jesus said, "I and the Father are ONE", and "he that hath seen me hath seen the Father."



Whenever you see a man, you are either looking as the Devil in that Man or Elohim. The women are as Man in the Garden. This is what the covenant with Abraham means (the Father was dwelling in Abraham, in that generation. This is why you see Abraham create in two women, two men, one of darkness and then one of light: Ishmael and Isaac:



"And I will establish My covenant between me and thee, and thy seed after thee in their generations, to be a Elohim (God) unto thee, and to thy seed after thee." Genesis 17:7



There were two parts to Abraham's Seed, Jacob the chosen after the flesh, and Israel, those chosen of the Spirit, the Spirit of Abba for Him to dwell in. The mystery is split in two. You see Elohim make this promise of salvation to both the physical Hebrew and the Spiritual Hebrew, those redeemed from Satan's Seed, those called from the darkness into the light.



The meaning of the word "Hebrew" by the way, is "one from beyond"..



There is no such thing as "original sin", each man and woman, is born to be one of two vessels, either or wrath, to be destroyed, or to be a vessel of mercy:



"Come ye blessed of My Father inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world." Matt 25:34



This is what it means to be "filled with the Holy Spirit", the word "holy" means "set-apart or sanctified" (from birth).

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The Parable of the Two Fathers: Whose your spiritual Father, God (YHWH) or the Devil (STN)..?
Posted : 28 Apr, 2014 12:00 AM

You spread heresies.

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The Parable of the Two Fathers: Whose your spiritual Father, God (YHWH) or the Devil (STN)..?
Posted : 28 Apr, 2014 06:37 PM

Yes he does!

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The Parable of the Two Fathers: Whose your spiritual Father, God (YHWH) or the Devil (STN)..?
Posted : 30 Apr, 2014 04:12 PM

Shared ~ Did you know that Jesus did not teach anything..?

Jesus did not teach one thing~

*** Really ???...that is not true�Read the Scriptures�



John 18:19 � The high priest then asked Jesus of his disciples, and of his doctrine.

John 18:20 Jesus answered him, I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing.



*** �I ever taught��.that ( I ) is JESUS�and He said this�here is a NKJV translation�



John 18:20 Jesus answered him, "I spoke openly to the world. I always taught in synagogues and in the temple, where the Jews always meet, [fn] and in secret I have said nothing.



*** �I always taught��that ( I ) is also JESUS�This is His WORD�recorded in the HOLY Scriptures�and HE says He Taught...and this is the meaning of the WORD taught�



*** Taught � didasko � G1321



1. to teach

1. to hold discourse with others in order to instruct them, deliver didactic discourses

2. to be a teacher

3. to discharge the office of a teacher, conduct one's self as a teacher

2. to teach one

1. to impart instruction

2. instill doctrine into one

3. the thing taught or enjoined

4. to explain or expound a thing

5. to teach one something



*** Stop spreading your Heresies and REPENT !!!!...The LORD will forgive you and have Mercy upon your Soul...



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