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Who is responsible for the condition that the 'church' is in!!
Posted : 27 Apr, 2014 05:48 AM

Hello everyone:



I find the 'church' is in such disarray that there is great division,and turmoil abounding.



Messiah had prayed for the 'BELIEVERS' to be united,yet there is great division and chaos amongst the people.



John 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

John 17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:



Protestants do not associate with the Catholics,

Baptists do not meet with the Presbyterians.

Episcopalians will not go to where the Lutherans meet.

The health and wealthers will not meet with those that do not name and claim everything.

Pentecostals shun those which do not believe in tongues and the interpretation.

Charismatics stay away from Fundamentalists.



This cannot be the work of Messiah Yeshua,as Yeshua has taken the responsibility for the BUILDING of His ASSEMBLY.



Mat 16:18 And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My assembly, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against her.





My question is this:

Who is responsible for the terrible condition which the 'church is in,and please do not blame the devil.



Blessings

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Posted : 27 Apr, 2014 07:33 AM

Mat 16:18 is a very misrepresented scripture.Jesus first points out "You are Peter"(or a rock or small pebble),and on this ROCK(giant rock or gibralter)(Jesis Himself) I will build MY church!Christ was differencing Himself from Peter.Peter is a rock but Jesus is the gibralter that HIS church WILL BE BUILT!



Christ's church is built in the awakened Spirits of man/women as made alive by God the Father.By those called by God and accepting the Christ Jesus who has made them perfectly Holy.



All the rest is just pomp and circumstance.

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Posted : 27 Apr, 2014 07:52 AM

Amen! :applause:

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Posted : 27 Apr, 2014 11:47 PM

God will start the Judgement from the Church of God/believers.



But we can judge ourselves already today to avoid this Judgement and repent of our sins.

Do not blame other people of sins, but live a GODLY life yourself knowing that God will judge YOU like the Church.



Try to survive yourself this coming judgement.

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Posted : 28 Apr, 2014 02:46 AM

Hi Versavia:



The topic is: WHO is responsible for the condition which the "church" is in.

Yet since you want to turn to another subject.



What you have written seems that you do not understand the Gospel.



Messiah carried the sin(s) of the world to judgement upon the cross.

Which sin(s) will a person then be judged for,seeing that ALL of that persons sin(s) has already been judged.



Blessings.

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Posted : 1 May, 2014 11:01 PM

The red dragon of course!

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