And Ill add: John 3:16 which says: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
And then God wraps it up telling us in Revelation 1:5
and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood...
Baptism is not necessary for salvation. Baptism does not save from sin but from a bad conscience. In 1 Peter 3:21, Peter clearly taught that baptism was not a ceremonial act of physical purification, but the pledge of a good conscience toward God. Baptism is the symbol of what has already occurred in the heart and life of one who has trusted Christ as Savior (Romans 6:3-5; Galatians 3:27; Colossians 2:12). Baptism is an important step of obedience that every Christian should take. Baptism cannot be a requirement for salvation. To make it such a claim is clearly an attack on the sufficiency of the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
Man cannot EVER be an expert about anything pertaining to the things of GOD Almighty,In order for that to happen,man would have to be OMNISCIENT and
that would be placing man on the same level as the Yeshua or the Holy Spirit.
Now concerning Matthew 28:19 here is a good translation.
Mat 28:19 Then having gone, disciple all nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
The word BAPTIZING is a VERB, and is int PRESENT tense.not the past tense.
Part of Speech: Verb
Tense: Present
Mood: Participle
Voice: Active
Case: Nominative
Gender: Masculine
Number: Plural
Present Tense
The present tense usually denotes continuous kind of action. It shows 'action in progress' or 'a state of persistence.' When used in the indicative mood, the present tense denotes action taking place or going on in the present time.
For example: "In Whom you also are being built together into a dwelling place of God in spirit." Eph 2:22
"Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together." Heb 10:25
Participles
A participle is considered a "verbal adjective". It is often a word that ends with an "-ing" in English (such as "speaking," "having," or "seeing"). It can be used as an adjective, in that it can modify a noun (or substitute as a noun), or it can be used as an adverb and further explain or define the action of a verb. (For a more complete explanation of participles, please go to the advanced section on participles.)
Adjectival use: "The coming One will come and will not delay." Heb 10:37
Adverbial use: "But speaking truth in love, we may grow up into Him in all things." Eph 4:15
Active Voice
Grammatical voice indicates whether the subject is the performer of the action of the verb (active voice), or the subject is the recipient of the action (passive voice). If the subject of the sentence is executing the action, then the verb is referred to as being in the active voice.
For example: "Jesus was baptizing the people" (paraphrase of John 3:22; 4:1,2). "Jesus" is the subject of the sentence and is the one that is performing the action of the verb; therefore the verb is said to be in the "Active Voice".
For example: "Jesus was baptizing the people" (paraphrase of John 3:22; 4:1,2). "Jesus" is the subject of the sentence and is the one that is performing the action of the verb; therefore the verb is said to be in the "Active Voice".
Now Jesus learned that the Pharisees had heard that he was gaining and baptizing more disciples than John� although in FACT IT WAS NOT JESUS WHO BAPTIZED, but his disciples. John 4:1-2
Jesus never water baptized anyone at anytime during His entire ministry.
His disciples were following John's(the Baptist) water baptism.
"As for me, I(John) baptize you with water for repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, and I am not fit to remove His sandals; He(Jesus) will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. Math 3:11
Water baptism is NOT a symbolic act of your faith(somebody made that up). It is an obsolete Jewish water purifacation ritual. "
Mimi just because you may not agree does not make it wrong!
Or I could say tomatos> tomatoes!
It may be obsolete to the jewish . It is obsolete to those that see it as symbolic burial of the OLD SELF .
God has a message for you:
Colossians 2:16-23
Freedom From Human Rules
16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
19 And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.
20 Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,
21 (Touch not; taste not; handle not;
22 Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men?
23 Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body: not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.
Water baptism is a symbolic burial, by which the new Christian publicly declares they have died, and are now beginning a new life, in Christ.
In Christian water baptism, the believer is put completely under water, then immediately raised out of the water.
Water baptism is a statement of faith: my old life is behind me -- I am a new person, with a new life.
Water baptism is a sign of repentance -- repentance means change -- a change so drastic that the old person is "buried."
It does not make you acceptable to God. As a work of righteousness, trying to obtain a good standing with God, it is worthless.
Water baptism is a way of giving testimony to what has happened inwardly, and a clear commitment to turn from the old life.
Water baptism outwardly demonstrates what has happened inwardly. Water baptism helps you to grasp the reality of the spiritual truth that the old "you" has died.
Water baptism is only as important as the participant believes it to be. Water baptism is their confession, and a public commitment. Unless the person really believes they died, there is no need for a burial.
It is not something we must do to impress God, but something to impress on our mind what happened to us inwardly. Water baptism is for OUR benefit -- not God's.
Since I DO KNOW that baptism has nothing to do with my salvation and and Im assuming you do as well; its best if we dont say one or the other is wrong on things of this nature. It separates the body of Christ and thats a work of satan and not God. I would have appreciated a pat on the back in the same fashion as Ive tried to encourage you.
In any of my writings about baptism,i have stated that MATTHEW 28:18-20 is not about baptizing a person in water,this Scriptures tells about making LEARNERS of Messiah Yeshua,which one cannot do by submerging a person in water.
The Scripture tells about IMMERSING people INTO the name(s) of YHWH which have been fulfilled and revealed in Yeshua.
IF you read what i posted about the TENSE in which the words DISCIPLE,
and BAPTIZING you would realize that BAPTIZING is in the PRESENT PARTICIPLE ACTIVE tense.
This tense which shows that baptizing to be something which happened in the past and continues on presently and is CONTINUALLY ACTIVE.
Immersing a person INTO the name(s) of YHWH will never end in this life,as the Holy Spirit will continuously reveal to us who Yeshua is and and what He is like.
Submerging a person in water stops once the person is brought out of the water.
The body of believers needs to be instructed HOW to TRANSLATE the Scriptures.
TOO bad these so called 'senior pastors,pastors,priest, and church leaders' WILL NOT teach the people how to read the Word of GOD;
Nor will they instruct the people into TRANSLATING and studying the Word of YHWH,and yet they want to call themselves 'teachers';while those which the Holy Spirit has EMPOWERED to being 'TEACHERS', these are told to be quiet and to SUBMIT to the authority of the pastor.
Shared ~ In any of my writings about baptism,i have stated that MATTHEW 28:18-20 is not about baptizing a person in water,this Scriptures tells about making LEARNERS of Messiah Yeshua,which one cannot do by submerging a person in water.
*** The Word �baptism� in Mat 28:18-20 is ~
Strongs - baptizo � G907 � verb �
1. to dip repeatedly, to immerse, to submerge (of vessels sunk)
2. to cleanse by dipping or submerging, to wash, to make clean with water, to wash one's self, bathe
3. to overwhelm
"Note on Baptism in Ac. Baptism in water (such as John's) is distinguished from baptism with the Holy Spirit (i. 5, etc.). Those who receive the latter, however, may also be baptized in water (cf. xi. 16 with x. 47); and there is one example of people who had previously received John's baptism receiving Christian baptism as a preliminary to receiving the Spirit (xix. 3 ff.). John's was a baptism of repentance (xiii. 24; xix. 4), as was also Christian baptism (ii. 38), but as John's pointed forward to Jesus (xix. 4), it became obsolete when He came. Christian baptism followed faith in the Lord Jesus (xvi. 31 ff.); it was associated with His name (ii. 38; viii. 16, etc.), which was invoked by the person baptized (xxii. 16); it signified the remission (ii. 38) or washing away of sins (xxii. 16); sometimes it preceded (ii. 38; viii. 15 ff.; xix. 5), sometimes followed (x. 47 f.) the receiving of the Spirit." (F. F. Bruce. The Acts of the Apostles [Greek Text Commentary], London: Tyndale, 1952, p. 98, n. 1.)
This word should not be confused with bapt� (911). The clearest example that shows the meaning of baptizo is a text from the Greek poet and physician Nicander, who lived about 200 B.C. It is a recipe for making pickles and is helpful because it uses both words. Nicander says that in order to make a pickle, the vegetable should first be 'dipped' (bapt�) into boiling water and then 'baptised' (baptiz�) in the vinegar solution. Both verbs concern the immersing of vegetables in a solution. But the first is temporary. The second, the act of baptising the vegetable, produces a permanent change.
From a derivative � bapto � G911 �
1. to dip, dip in, immerse
2. to dip into dye, to dye, colour
Not to be confused with 907, baptizo. The clearest example that shows the meaning of baptizo is a text from the Greek poet and physician Nicander, who lived about 200 B.C. It is a recipe for making pickles and is helpful because it uses both words. Nicander says that in order to make a pickle, the vegetable should first be 'dipped' (bapto) into boiling water and then 'baptised' (baptizo) in the vinegar solution. Both verbs concern the immersing of vegetables in a solution. But the first is temporary. The second, the act of baptising the vegetable, produces a permanent change.
*** I really find it terribly disheartening that some people dis-respect the very Meaning of the WORD�.kinda like�dis-respecting Jesus the Messiah because don�t you know they think they are right and everyone else is wrong�:rolleyes:..I mean�Do you really believe if you do or don�t do it �Baptisim� that He will love you or anyone else any less???...people cant even keep the simple 10 commandments because they are so full of Sin�they try�and yet�there is absolutely NOTHING a person can do to stop sinning�it must come from the Holy Spirit of GOD�the Regeneration�So�Abba�Papa GOD�Yahweh�sent HIS ONLY begotten Son to take on and be Sin for us so we may be set free of the Bondage of it�and all I see people do here is try to pull people back into bondage�I just shake my head and say�LORD have Mercy!!!.... X <>< O
Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
*** It would be so very nice if this site would allow the text to be in "Red"...in this verse...it is Jesus speaking and that word baptize is the same word in my above post...Yall hava a HolySpirit Filled day... xo
