The spelling Yahshua is not found in Hebrew texts. The Hebrew Bible uses Yehoshua, and later Aramaic form Yeshua, for Joshua, which means "Yah is Salvation." Christians, historians, and linguists outside the sacred name movement for the most part reject the term Yahshua in favor of Yeshua as the original pronunciation.
Aramaic (Classical Syriac) and East Syriac, which are ancestral to West Syriac, render the pronunciation of the same letters as isho . The Aramaic Bible (c. 200 AD) or the Peshitta preserve this same spelling. These texts were translated from the Greek, but the name is not a simple transliteration of the Greek form because Greek did not have an "sh" [ʃ] sound, and substituted [s].
May be that is why the name of Jesus in Arabic is Isa.
Syriac is a dialect of Middle Aramaic that was once spoken across much of the Fertile Crescent and Eastern Arabia.
Having first appeared as a script in the 1st century AD after being spoken as an unwritten language for five centuries, Classical Syriac became a major literary language throughout the Middle East from the 4th to the 8th centuries, the classical language of Edessa, preserved in a large body of Syriac literature.
It became the vehicle of Syriac Christianity and culture, spreading throughout Asia as far as the Indian Malabar Coast and Eastern China, and was the medium of communication and cultural dissemination for Arabs and, to a lesser extent, Persians. Primarily a Christian medium of expression, Syriac had a fundamental cultural and literary influence on the development of Arabic, which largely replaced it towards the 14th century. Syriac remains the liturgical language of Syriac Christianity.
Thanks Maria for the info...I've never wondered about the spelling of Jesus Biblical name...I've called Him Yahshua for some time now...don't know why...just do...When I was little I called Him Isa which is from Arabic...I'm not into or practice "sacred name" stuff...here is some WikiPedia info on sacred name... x <>< O
Sacred Name movement usage[edit]
The transcription of Hebrew-alphabet Yehoshua (�����) as Latin-alphabet "Yahshua" is first documented during the early days of the Sacred Name movement in the 1930s, perhaps developed by leaders such as Angelo B. Traina and C.O. Dodd.[3]
Those who follow Sacred Name teachings (such as the Assemblies of Yahweh) believe that it is an aid to salvation to use the correct pronunciation.[4]
"Yahshua" supporters, such as those of the Sacred Name movement, teach that since the Messiah will "come in his Father's Name",{John 5:43} then he must have the name of Yahweh, or at least the abbreviated form (Yah) in his spoken name. Another popular contraction is Yah'shua with the apostrophe ( � ) serving as a division to emphasise[citation needed] the "Yah" aspect of the name and the Hebrew shua (salvation), found in the Natural Israelite Bible, English Version.
Critics say that in their labor to get the pronunciation "Yahshua" out of �����, they are ignoring Hebrew linguistics that do not allow the waw to be silent, so "Yahshua" is a questioned translation. Furthermore, it is argued by some[who?] that this pronunciation is not attested in antiquity, unlike the pronunciation "Yehoshua".
Here is another site about yeshua / yahshua...it even makes mention that one spelling Yahshua doesnt know much about the Hebrew language...well then...I must admit I study the language because it is fascinating and each word has a deeper meaning...however I must admit I've not studied the actual name Jesus in Hebrew...I learned something new today...:excited:
Ok I published it for you. I was afraid that you got to the sacred name movement :ROFL:
Do not call Him by any name except His name:
Yeshua as it is in the original pronunciation or this name translated into thousands of languages. :peace:
Bye the way, NO ONE knows how to pronounce the name YHWH correctly.
That is why we do not pronounce it. :laugh:
If you remember, I gave you my explanation that this name according to the Massoretic text of the Bible should sound like: Yehwah
Read more here:
God does NOT allow us to use His name in vain. It is a sin.
We can use His name only for educational purposes.
Moreover, He knows our supplications and prayers even BEFORE we would utter them.
And I believe that we should not pronounce His name because actually NO ONE knows today HOW it should be pronounced correctly.
Which name we all can pronounce? The name of His HOLY Son Jesus in Hebrew or in any other language because when we would call His name our God HEARS it and His name is "GOD HEARS".
Remember: If you call our God Jesus and His Father by other names (NOT such as we can read In Hebrew and in the Tanakh), DELIBERATELY changing letters because your leaders say it, HOW could you expect Him to answer to your prayers?!
Are your prayers in this case not what Muslims say?!
The God of Israel has DEFINITE names in HEBREW which could NOT be changed and should NOT be changed by any pronunciation!
When I speak in English I use the name Jesus for the Son of God because this name is used in your language and all people understand that I speak about Jesus. Even Jesus knows that.
When I speak in Arabic I can call Him by two names as it is written in Arabic Bible and the Quran: Yassua and "Isa.
Why do I use these names for the Son of God? Because I impact Arabs and they understand that I use the NAME of Jesus TRANSLATED into their native language. This is just a TRANSLATION. And they accept this translation.
I use translation of the name of Jesus in your English language because I speak in English. And it is quite REASONABLE. Just imagine me speaking in English using Arabic translation of His names!
So, if you would address to Jesus using FAKE words which are NOT His names in Hebrew then I would say that your call ANOTHER Jesus! He will think so too if you are a cult member.
That is why the God of Israel does NOT accept prayers of Muslims which are directed to other god called by OTHER names which are NOT in the Bible.
That is why the God of Israel does NOT accept prayers of people which are directed to other gods called by OTHER names which are NOT in the Bible.
His NAME YHWH is UNIQUE and Jews do NOT pronounce it.
I am a Jew and I CALL my God like my fathers in Israel.
I REJECT any "unauthorized" translation of His name like my fathers and brothers Jews do it in Israel.
Why? To avoid being a cult member or an idol worshiper of a god who does NOT have the HOLY names of the God of Israel.
That is my point.
"You shall not misuse the name of the LORD your God, for the LORD will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name."
The Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain- the Lord will punish severely!!!
See Leviticus 19:12, this is the THIRD command, and the reason enforcing it follows:
for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name is vain; will not look upon him as an innocent person, and treat him as such; will not acquit and discharge him as just and righteous; but on the contrary will consider him as a guilty person, a profaner of his name, and a transgressor of his law, and will condemn and punish him, if not in this world, yet in the world to come.
The Targum of Jonathan adds,"in the day of the great judgment;''see Malachi 3:5.
An act that causes God to come into disrespect or a commandment to be disobeyed is often referred to as "profanation" of the Name.
Because a name represents the reputation of the thing named, a name should be treated with the SAME respect as the thing's reputation. For this reason, God's Names, in all of their forms, shall be treated with enormous respect and reverence.
The correct pronunciation of the main name of God was lost, and we no longer know it with any certainty. We do not know what vowels were used that is why we do NOT pronounce this name anymore to void calling Him by a WRONG name!
Why? To respect the God of Israel and NOT to utter madness created by sect and cult members because the God of Israel promised to PUNISH us severely for violation of the Third Command of God!
�You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain."
Even that is VERY CLEAR as everything what God said in the Bible.
But people as always do NOT want OBEY God and use His name how they want gathering God's wrath against them...
NOTE:
The Father's true name is "Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh" (often contracted in English as "I AM") taken from the original Hebrew scriptures. It is His name in the first person.
What does this mean?
We see this name in the response God used in the Hebrew Bible when Moses asked for his name (Exodus 3:14). It is one of the most famous verses in the Torah. Hayah means "existed" or "was" in Hebrew; "ehyeh" is the first person singular imperfect form and is usually translated in English Bibles as "I will be" (or "I shall be"), for example, at Exodus 3:14. Ehyeh asher ehyeh literally translates as "I Will Be What I Will Be",
The name of the God of Israel is Ehyeh.
The first appearance of the word �YHVH�/YHWH was in the HOLY Torah Gen 2:4.
How is it possible that the word occurs 6,828 times and today we do not know how to utter it?
And HOW to be sure that the name is just one of the names of the God of Israel (meaning most probably "he who causes to exist" or "who gives life")?
God gave us this name in the Torah. But who did write the Torah? God or Moses? How Moses could know the genealogy of his forefather Noah and such historical facts listed in the Torah 500 hundreds years before the birth of Abraham? Of course it was impossible for Moses to know it and the records were made by a Supreme Being and given to Moses. These records show that the God of Israel was called YHVH (Gen 2:4). Thus if God GAVE us the Torah (Note: According to rabbinic tradition, all of the teachings found in the Torah were given by God to Moses, some of them at Mount Sinai and others at the Tabernacle).
God also said to Moses,"Say to the Israelites, 'The LORD (YHVH), the God of your fathers--the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob--has sent me to you.'"This is my name forever, the name you shall call me from generation to generation. Exodus 3:15
I think if we would utterthe word �YHVH� as it first occurred inthe Hebrew Bible (without influence other words) according to the most commonset of vowels used in the Masoretic text of the Torah, then God would not mind if we would do it: Yehwah.
The Tanakh: 15. And God said further to Moses, "So shall you say to the children of Israel, 'The Lord (YHVH) God of your forefathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.' This is My name forever, and this is how I should be mentioned in every generation.
Yǝhwah (see Hebrew pronunciation here: www.omniglot.com/writing/hebrew.htm.
But anyway, we know many other names of God to address to Him (without �Chinese accent� LOL) and we even know that BEFORE we utter the words, He already KNOWS what we say.
OK....Yahshua...Yeshua...Yehoshua...Iosus...Ioese...Jesus...which way would you and God prefer I spell it so I am not disrespecting either of you ???...
Read above what is the law God gave us in the Holy Scripture to RESPECT even His name!
God has His holy names...If we address to another god then we can use any names we want...cuz other gods just do not exist in reality.
The God of Israel is not only good God but He punished us for sins/violation of His laws/commands.
Read today 1 John 2 to see what He expects from you:
Now by this we know that we know Him, if we **KEEP** His commandments.
4 He who says, �I know Him,� and does not keep His commandments, is a liar:devil:, and the truth is not in him.
5 But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. 6 He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk:angel: just as He walked.
And now, little children, abide in Him, that when He (JESUS) appears, we may have confidence and not be ashamed before Him at His coming. 29 If you know that He is righteous, you know that everyone who practices righteousness:angel: is born of Him.
Who is being "Judge" here ???...you act as if this a game...I have no time for that...
Shared ~ His NAME YHWH is UNIQUE and Jews do NOT pronounce it.
*** No one here said you have to�and it is GOD who Judges...not you...
Shared ~ I am a Jew and I CALL my God like my fathers in Israel.
*** Well then if you are a Jew then you are Not a Christian and should by your own religion and cultural beliefs NOT be using the name �Jesus� in your posts because the Jews Reject HIM as Messiah and GOD.
If I may ask�what Religion are you ???...Jewish�Christian�Messianic ???...I am a Christian and I study Hebrew~Jewish~Messianic culture, customers and language as well as many others�I ask so I may better understand you.
Shared ~ I REJECT any "unauthorized" translation of His name like my fathers and brothers Jews do it in Israel.
*** You may reject whatever you want and I am not going to argue with you Maria�Please check the link I provided as my research came to the same conclusion as Elder Bob Wirl about the Yah vs Ye�If you do as your fathers and brothers do it in Israel then I�d suggest they do some research also�Take a very close look at the �Proper gamets��
