Thread: If you were not predestined unto eternal life you can never believe.
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If you were not predestined unto eternal life you can never believe.
Posted : 15 Sep, 2014 01:23 PM
What Elohim has decreed to come to pass, men choose in time:
"Him being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain". Acts 2:23
What do you think "Him being delivered" means, if not that Elohim knew of the unconditional certainty of the accomplishment of everything foretold, and fulfilled His will in delivering Ha' Mashiyach as the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world to be slain?
Let me give you some scriptures, which proves that if one was not predestined to belief, they are not of the sheep and can never hear Shepherd calling:
1. "Come ye blessed of my Father inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world" [Matthew 25:34].
2. "All that the Father gives unto me shall come unto me; and him that cometh unto me I shall never cast out" [John 6:37].
3. "And this is the will of the Father which hath sent me, that of all he has given me I shall lose nothing" [John 6:39].
4. "And when the gentiles heard this, they glorified the word of the Lord, and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed" [Acts 13:48].
5. "For God has not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ" [I Thess 5:9].
6. "But we are bound to give thinks always to God for you brethren, beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the spirit and belief of the truth" [2 Thess 2:13].
7. "But we are not of them who turn back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul" [Heb 10:39].
8. "You can be confident of this very thing that he which hath begun a good work in you shall perform it unto the day of salvation" [Phil 1:6].
9. "For God hath not called us unto uncleanness but unto holiness" [I Thess 4:7].
10. "For by one offering he hath perfected forever them that are sanctified" [Heb 10:14].
11. "Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures" [James 1:18].
Do you know what the word "qodesh" means? It is the Hebrew word which was translated into "holy". It means "set-apart" or "sanctified".
Those who are predestined, were "set-apart". They are going to inherit eternal life, not earn it. When they are born they receive "the Spirit of Adoption, whereby they cry, 'Abba, Father' " [Romans 8:15]
When men are born, they receive one of two spirits, the Spirit of the Devil or the Spirit of God. This is why Romans states: "For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are the Sons of God." [8:14]
"And when the gentiles heard this, they were glad and glorified the word of the Lord, and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48
You do not believe, because one of two reasons. 1, you are not of the sheep, or 2, you have not been called out of the darkness, yet.
Look at this passage where Jesus is in the Temple, in Solomon's porch [John 10, and the Jews (those who were offspring of the Devil - John 8:44) come to him, and they ask Him, to tell them plainly if He is Ha' Mashiyach [The Messiah]. Look at what He tells them. He tells them that the reason they do not believe, is because they are not of His sheep. He does not tell them, that the reason they are not His sheep, is because they do not believe, which is exactly what Christianity teaches:
"And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication, and it was winter. And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch. Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly. Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me. But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one." John 10:22-30
Did you get that, "But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep".
This is where many a serpent hiding in sheep's clothing, in the pulpits of Christianity, twist the scripture around, and tell men, "If you want to become one of Jesus's sheep, you have to believe first!"
WRONG!!!!
If you are not one of the sheep, you can never believe~
If you were not predestined unto eternal life you can never believe.
Posted : 16 Sep, 2014 02:08 AM
Again you with your heresies!
For it is by grace you have been saved, through FAITH--and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God--...
Ephesians 2:8
Romans 3:24
and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.
Romans 9:16
It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God's mercy.
Ephesians 2:5
made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions--it is by grace you have been saved.
Justification is the legal act where God declares the sinner to be innocent of his or her sins. It is not that the sinner is now sinless, but that he is "declared" sinless. This declaration of righteousness is being justified before God. This justification is based on the shed blood of Jesus, " . . . having now been justified by His blood . . . " (Rom. 5:9) where Jesus was crucified, died, was buried, and rose again (1 Cor. 15:1-4). God imputed (reckoned to our account) the righteousness of Christ at the same time our sins were imputed to Christ when he was on the cross. That is why it says in 1 Pet. 2:24, "and He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness; for by His wounds you were healed." Also, 2 Cor. 5:21 says, "He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him."
We are justified by faith (Rom. 5:1) apart from works of the Law (Rom. 3:28).
Therefore, since we have been justified by FAITH, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. Through him we have also cobtained access by faith into this grace din which we stand, and we rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
Rom.5
May God punish you for spreading heresies among children of God! Amen.
