The thing we must understand is that in the verses leading up to 30, we find that Jacob was wrestling with an Angle not with HaShem, (God). It is the understanding of the Sages that what Jacob was saying is that he, (Jacob) turned turned to HaShem.
This does not mean that he never followed HaShem before that day. It simply implies that he faith became stronger. When one sees the face of HaShem, it can come in many forms, like Yeshua, (Jesus). Even though one does not see Him face to face, it doesn't mean we have not seen Him at all.
Think on it this way. How many times in life have you seen the work of HaShem, and were left feeling as though you had seem Him? If you are like many, your answer may well be, to many to count. So you see Jacob seen HaShem in the actions of the angle. Yet even though he wrestled with him, his life was spared.
Now with John 1:18
We must know that even though Moses talked with HaShem face to face, he only seen a burning bush. Yet when Moses asked, HaShem let him see only His hinder parts. So it with any scripture, one must keep it in context with the whole of the Bible, seek the truth.
A Rabbi once told me, test all things by the Torah. If that thing holds any lie, it will reveal it's self, and show you truth. It has no choice in the matter. For a lie can not stand before truth.
I will look back in daily to see if you need any further help. Keep in mind one thing, I do teach from a Jewish understanding as best I can. After all, when we study HaShem's word, we are studding the teachings of the Jewish people. It is oly when we open our hearts to the life of the people, and the times they lived in, can we ever hope to find the truth.
May HaShem bless you, and guide you in your study.
The thing we must understand is that in the verses leading up to 30, we find that Jacob was wrestling with an Angle not with HaShem, (God). It is the understanding of the Sages that what Jacob was saying is that he, (Jacob) turned turned to HaShem.
This does not mean that he never followed HaShem before that day. It simply implies that he faith became stronger. When one sees the face of HaShem, it can come in many forms, like Yeshua, (Jesus). Even though one does not see Him face to face, it doesn't mean we have not seen Him at all.
Think on it this way. How many times in life have you seen the work of HaShem, and were left feeling as though you had seem Him? If you are like many, your answer may well be, to many to count. So you see Jacob seen HaShem in the actions of the angle. Yet even though he wrestled with him, his life was spared.
Now with John 1:18
We must know that even though Moses talked with HaShem face to face, he only seen a burning bush. Yet when Moses asked, HaShem let him see only His hinder parts. So it with any scripture, one must keep it in context with the whole of the Bible, seek the truth.
A Rabbi once told me, test all things by the Torah. If that thing holds any lie, it will reveal it's self, and show you truth. It has no choice in the matter. For a lie can not stand before truth.
I will look back in daily to see if you need any further help. Keep in mind one thing, I do teach from a Jewish understanding as best I can. After all, when we study HaShem's word, we are studding the teachings of the Jewish people. It is oly when we open our hearts to the life of the people, and the times they lived in, can we ever hope to find the truth.
May HaShem bless you, and guide you in your study.
The thing we must understand is that in the verses leading up to 30, we find that Jacob was wrestling with an Angle not with HaShem, (God). It is the understanding of the Sages that what Jacob was saying is that he, (Jacob) turned turned to HaShem.
This does not mean that he never followed HaShem before that day. It simply implies that he faith became stronger. When one sees the face of HaShem, it can come in many forms, like Yeshua, (Jesus). Even though one does not see Him face to face, it doesn't mean we have not seen Him at all.
Think on it this way. How many times in life have you seen the work of HaShem, and were left feeling as though you had seem Him? If you are like many, your answer may well be, to many to count. So you see Jacob seen HaShem in the actions of the angle. Yet even though he wrestled with him, his life was spared.
Now with John 1:18
We must know that even though Moses talked with HaShem face to face, he only seen a burning bush. Yet when Moses asked, HaShem let him see only His hinder parts. So it with any scripture, one must keep it in context with the whole of the Bible, seek the truth.
A Rabbi once told me, test all things by the Torah. If that thing holds any lie, it will reveal it's self, and show you truth. It has no choice in the matter. For a lie can not stand before truth.
I will look back in daily to see if you need any further help. Keep in mind one thing, I do teach from a Jewish understanding as best I can. After all, when we study HaShem's word, we are studding the teachings of the Jewish people. It is oly when we open our hearts to the life of the people, and the times they lived in, can we ever hope to find the truth.
May HaShem bless you, and guide you in your study.
user this might be a little bit of a lengthy explanation but it will explain both verse's this is from a commentary I wrote called
the crescendo says it all
" It's no secret Jesus is God "
　
in judges chapter 13
the angel of the Lord announce's the birth of Samson the mighty
judge to manoah and his wife
Judges 13:3 Then the angel of the LORD appeared to the woman and said to her, "Behold now, you are barren and have borne no children, but you shall conceive and give birth to a son.
in Judges 13:6
Then the woman came and told her husband, saying, "A man of God came to me and his appearance was like the appearance of the angel of God, very awesome.
Judges 13:11 Then Manoah arose and followed his wife, and when he came to the man he said to him, "Are you the man who spoke to the woman?" And he said, "I am."
Intresting!! THE MAN who appeared to both manoah and his wife
said "I AM"-- could this be the same MAN who in John 8:58 said "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM." ??
well let's find out......
curious to who this angel of The Lord was, manoah inquired to find out
his name....
Judges 13:17 Manoah said to the angel of the LORD, "What is your name, so that when your words come to pass, we may honor you?"
so manoah got an answer and Here's the proof that it's no secret
Jesus is God.
the angel answers monah--
Judges 13:18 But the angel of the LORD said to him, "Why do you ask my name, seeing it is wonderful"
now notice the word "wonderful" here--in the hebrew the word wonderful
is "phi'iy (strong's concordance H6383 ) which means wonderful, incomprehensible, extraordainary
this same word "wonderful" is also found in the messianic prophecy concerning Christ
which is found in Isaiah 9:6 which not only declares Jesus to be wonderful but also "Mighty God"
--For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
reading further down judges 13 monah and his wife realize
that they didn't see a normal angel but rather God Himself and here's
two proofs!!
Judges 13:19 So Manoah took the young goat with the grain offering and offered it on the rock to the LORD, and He performed wonders while Manoah and his wife looked on.
Here, the Angel of the Lord shows Himself to be God, in the sense that He did not need a meal but will accept a sacrificial offering made unto the Lord.
Judges 13:20 For it came about when the flame went up from the altar toward heaven, that the angel of the LORD ascended in the flame of the altar. When Manoah and his wife saw this, they fell on their faces to the ground.
as good jews realizing that this was God, the fell to the ground and worshiped Him!!
just as others did in the past Genesis 24:48 And I bowed down my head, and worshipped the LORD God.
Monah and his wife were terrified knowing that they had seen God and feared death and said..
Judges 13:22 So Manoah said to his wife, "We will surely die, for we have seen God."
this is a direct quote from
Exodus 33:20 � "But He God said, "You cannot see My face, for no man can see Me and live !"
yet menoah and His wife went on to live and she give birth to sampson
Judges 13:24 Then the woman gave birth to a son and named him Samson; and the child grew up and the LORD blessed him.
4 time's in the book judges chapter 13 does it declare that Jesus is God!!
How did they live and see God??
The solution is simple--we cannot stare into the sun but we can stare at the sun's ray's without hurting our eyes-- that is what menoah and his wife were seeing was not seeing Father in his full glory-- but rather they saw His express image The Son of God the second person in the Trinity--Jesus Christ!! who like in the new testament became The Eternal Word dwelt amoungst men john
1:1,14 and they lived!!
Christ's shekinah glory full divinity is shielded by His perfect sinless flesh
