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Posted : 6 May, 2018 12:49 AM

Women across the world are continuing a trend in the religious community. More females are seeking ordination and accepting churches� leadership positions. These women are overcoming strife and adversity for future female generations after them, so that there is no glass ceiling to prevent them to pursue their dreams and callings... Just to name a few powerful women preachers.

SHORT LIST OF WOMEN WHO PAVED THE WAY IN MINISTRY: TIMELINE 1815 UP TO 1970

1815: Clarissa Danforth was ordained in New England. She was the first woman ordained by the Free Will Baptist denomination; 1853: Antoinette Brown Blackwell[1] was ordained by a church belonging to the Congregationalist Church. However, her ordination was not recognized by the denomination. She later quit the church and became a Unitarian; in 1878, the American Unitarian Association recognized her as a minister. The Congregationalists later merged with others to create the United Church of Christ, which ordains women; 1861: Mary A. Will was the first woman ordained in the Wesleyan Methodist Connection by the Illinois Conference in the United States. The Wesleyan Methodist Connection eventually became the Wesleyan Church; 1863: Olympia Brown was ordained by the Universalist denomination in 1863, the first woman ordained by that denomination, in spite of a last-moment case of cold feet by her seminary which feared adverse publicity. After a decade and a half of service as a full-time minister, she became a part-time minister in order to devote more time to the fight for women's rights and universal suffrage. In 1961, the Universalists and Unitarians joined to form the Unitarian Universalist Association (UUA). The UUA became the first large denomination to have a majority of female ministers;1866: Helenor M. Davison was ordained as a deacon by the North Indiana Conference of the Methodist Protestant Church, probably making her the first ordained woman in the Methodist tradition; 1871: Celia Burleigh was ordained by the first Unitarian congregation in Connecticut in Brooklyn, Connecticut; 1878: Antoinette Brown's ordination recognized by the American Unitarian Association (see 1853, above); 1878: Abigail (Abbie) Ellsworth Danforth was ordained by the Ohio Universalist Convention. She served Universalist churches in Ohio, including churches in Kent, Peru, Flint, Huntington, Bryan, Margaretta, and Le Roy, and was active in the Ohio Women's Missionary Society. In 1902, she moved to Tacoma, Washington, and served as minister of the Universalist Society until 1904. She also became Vice President of the Washington Equal Suffrage Association; 1880: Anna Howard Shaw was the first woman ordained in the Methodist Protestant Church, an American church which later merged with other denominations to form the United Methodist Church;1889: The Nolin Presbytery of the Cumberland Presbyterian Church ordained Louisa Woosley as the first female minister of the Cumberland Presbyterian Church, USA; 1889: Ella Niswonger was the first woman ordained in the American United Brethren Church, which later merged with other denominations to form the American United Methodist Church, which has ordained women with full clergy rights and conference membership since 1956; 1922: The Jewish Reform movement's Central Conference of American Rabbis stated that "...woman cannot justly be denied the privilege of ordination." However, the first woman in Reform Judaism to be ordained (Sally Priesand) was not ordained until 1972; 1930: A predecessor church of the Presbyterian Church (USA) ordained its first female as an elder; 1956: The Presbyterian Church (USA) ordained its first female minister, Margaret Towner; 1964: Addie Davis became the first Southern Baptist woman to be ordained. However, the Southern Baptist Convention stopped ordaining women in 2000, although existing female pastors are allowed to continue their jobs.

2018 WOMEN OF GOD IN MINISTRY: Pastor Christine Caine - Ministry - Caine grew up in the Greek Orthodox Church in Australia. She first volunteered as a youth worker, when she helped establish Hills District Youth Service. She went on to become the director of a nationwide youth ministry, Youth Alive. In 2008, Christine founded the A21 Campaign with her husband Nick, who now serves as the CEO of A21 and Pastor of Zoe Churches. A21 is a 501(c)(3) non-profit, non-governmental organization which fights to "abolish slavery everywhere, forever". With 12 offices in 11 countries, their aim is to prevent human trafficking through awareness, to protect trafficked victims in their shelters and transition homes, to prosecute traffickers and strengthen the legal response to human trafficking, and to partner with law enforcement, individuals, corporations, official bodies, and other non-governmental organizations to end human trafficking in the 21st century.

In January 2015, Caine founded Propel Women, an organization that believes in the passion, purpose, and potential of every woman everywhere. Propel Women exists to honor the calling of every woman, empower her to lead, equip her for success, and develop a sense of God-given purpose.

Pastor Christine Caine Sermon: "A Breaking Point of Your Life" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ1UFNMskMs

Rev. Dr. Brenda Salter McNeil is a dynamic speaker, author, professor, and thought-leader with over 30 years of experience in the ministry of reconciliation. Her mission is to inspire, equip and empower emerging Christian leaders to be practitioners of reconciliation in their various spheres of influence around the world.

Dr. Brenda earned a Master of Divinity from Fuller Theological Seminary, a Doctorate of Ministry from Palmer Theological Seminary, and was awarded a Doctorate of Humane Letters from both North Park University and Eastern University. She is an ordained pastor in the Evangelical Covenant Church and serves as a member of the pastoral staff of Quest Church in Seattle, WA.

Presently, Dr. Brenda is an Associate Professor of Reconciliation Studies at Seattle Pacific University, where she also directs the Reconciliation Studies program. For 14 years, she was on staff with InterVarsity Christian Fellowship as a Multiethnic Ministries Specialist. Currently she serves on the board of InterVarsity Christian Fellowship USA, and was previously on the Board of Directors for Wycliffe USA and Christians for Biblical Equality.

Dr. Brenda is known as an international trailblazer, leading individuals, communities, and organizations to biblical reconciliation. She was featured as one of the 50 most influential women to watch by Christianity Today in 2012. She is the author of Roadmap to Reconciliation (2016), A Credible Witness: Reflections on Power, Evangelism and Race (2008), and The Heart of Racial Justice: How Soul Change Leads to Social Change (2005), coauthored with Rick Richardson.

Rev. Dr. Brenda Salter McNeil Sermon - "Kingdomworks" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUv87R-xTb8

Rev. Dr. Jasmin Sculark - A native of the Island of Trinidad, Dr. Jasmin �Jazz� Sculark is a globally recognized pastor, teacher, evangelist, author and philanthropist. She is also known as the �Daughter of Thunder,� for the thunderous sound she makes in the Earth that impacts the hearts and minds of all who come into contact with her ministry.

She is the founder and pastor of Victory Grace Center, located in Maryland and president of Dr. Jazz Ministries. Her ministry reaches to Africa, Canada, the Caribbean, Europe and throughout the United States. Dr. Jazz is humbled by the call that God has placed on her life and is passionate about her purpose, which is to encourage, educate, equip and empower the world through the spoken and written Word.

She is a graduate of the Practical Bible College in Vestal, New York, and the Washington Bible College in Lanham, Maryland. She received her Master�s in Theological Studies from the Trinity Lutheran Seminary in Columbus, Ohio, and her Doctor of Ministry Degree from the United Theological Seminary in Dayton, Ohio.

Dr. Jasmin Scular Sermon - "God's Got This" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6girF_yqZxY

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Posted : 6 May, 2018 03:27 AM

Hi Ella,

You seem to be trusting in a person having credentials from a school instead being empowered and called of GOD Almighty.

The Holy Spirit never goes against His Word, nor will the Father or the Son, as all three are in agreement with one another.

Why would the Holy Spirit empower Paul to write that an ELDER is to be a man,especially the MAN of one wife;Could there be a reason for that.

According to the WORD of GOD Almighty, not the ordination of man, ELDER men have the oversight of the believers, the pastors (plural)are under the ELDERS,the deacons are under both the pastors, and ELDERS. The body of believers are to understand and to acknowledge the MEN that have been empowered by the Holy Spirit for the FUNCTION of Elder, or pastor or deacon.

All of these are to be tested before given the

right hand of fellowship as either a deacon, pastor or Elder.

A man is able to FUNCTION as an Elder, or pastor, or deacon without being recognised as the Holy Spirit empowers them.

According to the word of GOD Almighty ELDERS, pastor and deacons are plural not singular.

Let us get back the the REAL Word of GOD Almighty and leave the ways of men behind.

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Posted : 6 May, 2018 08:36 AM

Pastor Rev. Dr. Amy Butler is the seventh Senior Minister and first woman to serve at the helm of the Riverside Church. She holds degrees from Baylor University, the International Baptist Theological Seminary, and Wesley Theological Seminary. Pastor Amy�s professional ministry career began as the director of a homeless shelter for women in New Orleans, Louisiana; she later became Associate Pastor of Membership and Mission at St. Charles Avenue Baptist Church in the city of New Orleans. In 2003, Butler was called to the position of Senior Minister of Calvary Baptist Church in Washington, D.C.�s Chinatown, where she was also the first woman to lead that historic congregation. After 11 years in Washington, D.C., the congregation of The Riverside Church voted to call Pastor Amy to the Senior Minister position. She often talks about what a gift and responsibility it is to be here at The Riverside Church in this moment, working to live into a legacy of social justice advocacy and gospel community building.

"The Greatest Sermon Ever Preached" by Rev. Dr. Amy Butler - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwpCuXE7xnk

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Posted : 6 May, 2018 10:41 AM

Ridiculous quote by Ella:



THE LORD JESUS CHRIST BEFORE HE EVEN ASCENDED INTO THE HEAVEN. EVANGELIST MARY MAGDALENE AND THE OTHER WOMEN WITH HER WERE TOLD BY THE RISEN SAVIOR TO GO (SENT-FORTH) TO GIVE THE GOSPEL MESSAGE TO HIS DISCIPLE., SAYING, "YOU GO, TELL MY DISCIPLES TO MEET ME IN GALILEE!" And the word tells us that she also spread the good news of Jesus to everyone who would listen to her throughout the city.



Actually Ella Jesus only spoke to Mary Magdalene just after His resurrection in Matthew 28:9,10 and John 20:15-18:



Matthew 26:1,9,10: Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to look at the tomb... Suddenly Jesus met them, "Greetings," He said. They came to Him clasped His feet and worshiped Him. Then Jesus said to them, "Do not be afraid. Go tell My brothers to go to Galilee; there they will see Me."



John 20:1,15-18: Mary Magdalene went to the tomb... She turned around and saw Jesus standing there, but she did not realize it was Jesus. Jesus asked her, "Woman why are you crying? Who is it you are looking for? Thinking it was the gardener, she said, "Sir, if you have carried Him away, tell me where you have laid Him." Jesus said to her, "Mary." She turned toward Him and cried out in Aramaic, "Rabboni!" which means "Teacher." Jesus said, "Do not hold on to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to My brothers and tell them, "I am ascending to My Father and your Father, to My God and your God." Mary Magdalene went to the disciples with the news, "I have seen the Lord!" And she told them that He had said these things to her.



Tis is the very **LAST TIME** Mary Magdalene is mentioned in the New Testament. Jesus only told her to tell His disciples that she saw Jesus and that He was ascending to the Father and to go to Galilee where they would meet Jesus.



Jesus did not tell Mary Magdalene to preach the Gospel message as Ella claims. And Jesus certainly didn't tell Mary Magdalene to preach the Gospel in churches which would contradict the inspired Words of God.



Christ's Law is **ALL THE COMMANDS** of the New Covenant as recorded in the New Testament.



I Thessalonians 2:13: We thank God continually because, when you received the **WORD OF GOD**, which you heard from us, you accepted it not as a human word, but as it actually is, the **WORD OF GOD**, which is at work in **YOU WHO BELIEVE**!!



I Corinthians 9:21: Paul said, "I am not free from God's law but am under **CHRIST'S LAW**!!"



John 16:12-14: Jesus says, "I have much more to say to you, more then you can now bear. But when the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own, he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will glorify Me because it is from Me that he will receive what he will make known to you!!"



Matthew 28:18-20: All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to **ME**! Therefore go and make disciples of all nations.... teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING I HAVE COMMANDED YOU**!"



Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony **FOR THE CHURCHES**!... I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book. If anyone **ADDS** anything to them, God will add to them the plagues described in this book. And if anyone **TAKES WORDS AWAY** from this book of prophecy, God will take away from them any share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City, which are described in this book!!"



Matthew 7:21-23: Jesus says, "Not everyone who says to Me, Lord, Lord,' will enter the Kingdom of Heaven, but onkly thosae who do the **WILL OF MY FATHER** in heaven. Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we no prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from Me you evildoers!'"



Acts 22:14,15: Ananias said to Paul, "The God of our ancestors has chosen you to know **HIS WILL** and to see the Righteous One and to hear words from His mouth!! You will be **HIS WITNESS** to all people of what you have seen and heard!



Acts 20:27: Paul said, "For I have not hesitated to proclaim to you the **WHOLE WILL OF GOD**!



God chose Paul to write 14 of the 27 books in the NT of **CHRIST'S LAW**! And God chose Paul to give the rules for teaching and preaching in the church by Elders, Overseers, Pastors and Teachers in I Timothy, 2 Timothy, Titus, I Corinthians 14 and Ephesians 4:11-24 and other places.



Some of these inspired writings include:



** WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY ABOUT THE PREACHING AND TEACHING OF MEN AND WOMEN IN THE CHURCH**??



Titus 1:6-9: An **ELDER** must be blameless, faithful to **HIS** wife, a **MAN** whose children believe... Since an **OVERSEER** manages God's household, **HE** must be blameless... **HE** must **HOLD FIRMLY** to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that **HE** can encourage others by **SOUND DOCTRINE and **REFUTE THOSE** WHO OPPOSE IT**.



I Timothy 5:17: The **ELDERS** who direct the affairs of the church well are worthy of a double honor, especially those whose work is **PREACHING ** and **TEACHING**!



I Timothy 3:1 Whoever desires to be an **OVERSEER** desires a noble task. Now the **OVERSEER**is to be above reproach, faithful to **HIS** wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable and **ABLE TO TEACH**!!



I Timothy 2:11: A **WOMAN** should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a **WOMEN** **TO TEACH** or to assume authority **OVER A MAN**!



I Corinthians 15:34,35:**WOMEN** should remain silent in the churches, They are not allowed **TO SPEAK**, but must be in submission, as the law says. If they want to inquire about anything, they should ask their husbands at home; for it is **DISGRACEFUL** for a **WOMAN** **TO SPEAK IN THE CHURCH**!!



2 Peter 3:15,16: Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our **DEAR BROTHER PAUL** also wrote you with the **WISDOM GOD GAVE TO HIM**. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand {To unbelievers} which **IGNORANT AND UNSTABLE PEOPLE DISTORT**, as they do other Scriptures, to their own **DESTRUCTION**!



I Timothy 3:16,17: All Scripture is **GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead and in view of His appearing and His Kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD**; be prepared in season in out of season, correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear!!



I Peter 1:23-25: For you have been **BORN AGAIN**, not of perishable seed but the imperishable, through the living and enduring **WORD OF GOD**. For all people are like grass, and all their glory is like flowers in the field; the grass withers and the flowers fail, but the **WORD OF THE LORD ENDURES FOREVER**!!



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Posted : 6 May, 2018 10:49 AM

Ella, please show me in the WORD of GOD Almighty where the title senior pastor is located. Also show me where the body of Messiah had voted for a woman to be an ELDER, or pastor, please show me; I might have missed that while I was studying thru the Word of GOD Almighty from Genesis to the end of Revelation.

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Posted : 7 May, 2018 05:14 AM

Darlene Zschech - Australian Darlene Zschech is acclaimed all over the world as a composer, worship leader, pastor and speaker, most notably for her involvement in the music from Hillsong Church, Sydney over many years. Although she has achieved numerous gold albums and her songs are sung in many nations of the world. Darlene�s success simply stands as a testimony to her life�s passion for serving God and people with all her heart. Alongside her husband Mark, they are the Senior Pastors of Hope Unlimited Church (HopeUC) on the Central Coast of New South Wales, Australia.

Zschech was the worship pastor of Hillsong Church from 1996 to 2007, during which time she served as producer, vocal producer or executive producer for more than 20 albums under the Hillsong Music label and wrote more than 80 published worship songs. Under Zschech's leadership, the album People Just Like Us (1994) was the first Christian album in Australia to go Gold as well as the first to go Platinum and the album For All You've Done (2004) debuted at #1 on the Australian Record Industry Association album charts. Zschech explained Hillsong Music's stance in her book Extravagant Worship in a prayer: "Father, let them quickly get their eyes off of us. We just want to point them to you, God, because you are the Author of truth. You are the only One who is to be praised."

Zschech stepped down as worship pastor in 2007, but continued to write songs for Hillsong and to serve as senior worship leader on their live albums. Reuben Morgan was appointed Hillsong worship pastor in 2008.

Hope Unlimited Church - In January 2011, Zschech and her husband, Mark, became senior pastors at Church Unlimited, later renamed Hope Unlimited Church, in Charmhaven on the Central Coast.

Sermon by Pastor Darlene Zschech "The Fabric Of My Heart" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqOMx0OkPw8

Kay Lee Arthur is an international Bible teacher, four-time ECPA Christian Book Award winning author, and co-CEO of Precept Ministries International. Kay teaches inductive Bible study, and has authored many inductive Bible study workbooks. The Inductive method of studying the Bible, is a set of steps to follow to "mine" the details of the given book under study. It is accessible to lay persons and has been used by millions around the world being taught and utilized in small to medium-sized home, church, and market place study groups.

Arthur's husband of 51 years, Jack, who battled cancer, died from Alzheimer's disease in Chattanooga, Tennessee, on January 9, 2017, at age 90.

Precept Ministries International - Since co-founding Precept Ministries International, Kay has written more than 100 books and Bible studies, with over 11 million in print. Her inductive Bible studies are available in over 180 countries in approximately 70 languages. Precept Inductive Bible Study groups meet throughout the USA.

Kay is a conference speaker who speaks extensively, both nationally and internationally, teaching the Word of God and the Inductive Bible Study Method. She was awarded the NRB Hall of Fame Award at the 2011 National Religious Broadcasters (NRB) Convention & Exposition.�The paramount concern Kay Arthur has is for the sheep to follow the Good Shepherd,� said NRB President and CEO, Dr. Frank Wright. �Kay and Jack have dedicated four decades to equip Christians with the tools necessary to mine the Scriptures on their own.�

Pastor Kay hosts a daily radio, television and online (www.PreceptsForLife.com) Bible Study Teaching program called Precepts for Life, which walks listeners through the Bible, book-by-book and verse-by-verse, using the Inductive Bible Study Method. Precepts for Life has an audience reach of over 75 million households and broadcasts to over 30 countries. Precepts for Life was voted Best Television Teaching Program for 2004 and 2009 by the National Religious Broadcaster

Sermon by Kay Author - "The Powerful Influence of a Godly Woman" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKijLSx_Mgs

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Posted : 7 May, 2018 06:58 AM

EXPOSED | KAY ARTHUR | FALSE DELIVERANCE TEACHER

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CHECK THIS OUT TO SEE WHY SHE IS FALSE AND IF YOU STILL DON'T BELIEVE SHE IS FALSE, THEN YOU EITHER HAVE NOT READ BELOW, OR LACK SPIRITUAL DISCERNMENT.



Despite her frequent denials, Kay Arthur teaches doctrine to men as well as women. (In our opinion, Jack Arthur's name is at the head of the ministry's masthead merely to dispel the unbiblical teaching practices of his wife.) The most recent example of Kay Arthur's willingness to teach men was her August 2001 advertisement in the Houston Chronicle -- an advertisement for a September 2001 Precept Ministries seminar:



Study with Kay Arthur in Houston, Texas. 'A Holy God � A Holy People.' Life Changing! Invite your pastor, Sunday School teachers, youth workers, men's and women's ministry leaders."



- In 1992, Arthur published (through Harvest House) The International Inductive Study Bible, receiving book jacket endorsements from neo-evangelical psychologizers Howard Hendricks (DTS), Joseph Stowell (MBI), R.C. Sproul (Ligonier), and Mrs. Pat Robertson (CBN). On 11/7/93, the John Ankerberg Show began a rerun of a five-week series titled, "Eight Biblical Scholars Defend the Bible." At the end of each of the programs, Ankerberg ran a premium offer promo for Arthur's Study Bible (for a gift of $85 for the leather-bound edition!). Appearing on tape (after four of the five programs) to endorse the Study Bible were social activist Beverly LaHaye, self-love psychobabblers R.C. Sproul and Josh McDowell, neo-evangelical Joni Eareckson Tada, and Arthur herself. After the third program, added endorsers were Campus Crusade's neo-evangelical leader Bill Bright and hyper-charismatic Jack Hayford. (Arthur also spoke with R.C. Sproul at his 2/3/94-2/5/94 Orlando Bible Conference, J.I. Packer, and Ravi Zacharias.)



- Arthur's neo-evangelical associations and affiliations are many. For example, her 1992-1993 Precept Ministries Product Catalog (the latest available to us) includes ministry endorsements from "defrocked" psychologizer David Hocking, hyper-charismatic Jack Hayford; ecumenical, Catholic sympathizer Bill Bright (Campus Crusade); psychologizer Erwin Lutzer (Moody Memorial Church); charismatic, demon-deliverer Evelyn Christenson; SBC pastor Adrian Rogers; neo-evangelical theologian John Sproule; and E. Brandt Gustavson, then president of the National Religious Broadcasters



- As mentioned in our review of Lord, Heal My Hurts, perhaps the most disconcerting teaching is Arthur's apparent acceptance of some of the heresies of the "demon deliverance" ministries. Moreover, when one reads Arthur's 1991 book, Lord, Is It Warfare?: Teach Me To Stand (see specifically pp. 280-323), little doubt is left that her demonology doctrine is thoroughly unbiblical. Arthur seemingly attributes every sin and every weakness to the work of demons. And rather than Biblical exegesis to establish a doctrine of demonology, Arthur relies almost exclusively on experience, � la Neil Anderson. In fact, on page 319 of Warfare, Arthur endorses two of Neil Anderson's highly heretical books, Victory Over the Darkness and The Bondage Breaker, both of which teach a so-called Christian "seven-step program" for living a victorious life. [In actuality, the books teach charismatic approaches to both sanctification (i.e., "crisis" sanctification) and demonology (i.e., deliverance from/exorcism of a believer's demons)].



In Warfare, Arthur, like Anderson in his aforementioned books, teaches that a Christian can be indwelt by demons; that Christians have the authority to cast-out demons from believers and unbelievers alike; that since demons can be responsible for sickness, healing can, in many cases, be obtained by commanding the enemy to leave; that Satan's demons have territorial powers that must be broken or the gospel cannot be effective; and that Satan's demons are also assigned to our homes, binding the hearts and minds of our children, thereby requiring a special kind of prayer, which she calls "offensive warfare" praying (i.e., commanding the demons to depart).



Another concern we have about Arthur is her view of the gospel message -- at times it appears that she undermines the gospel of the unconditional saving grace of Jesus Christ with a man-made requirement for pre-salvation works. We can see this by looking at her definition of faith in her Covenant Precept study: "... [faith is] absolute surrender of one's separate self ... a total death to self ... a walk into death ... coming to God with nothing held back." She then gives at least five requirements for salvation (all of which seem to set forth "ingredients" of salvation, rather than that which is produced by salvation): (a) walk through the veil of His flesh; (b) death to all other relationships -- Jesus is first; (c) death to one's own life, own interests, self-denial; (d) lose life for Jesus' sake in order to find it; and (e) be crucified with Christ. Again, all this seems to be a focus on what an unbeliever must do to gain salvation; i.e., according to Arthur, one can only have salvation if he dies to self, fully surrenders, and has a "conduct inspired by that surrender."



In the Covenant study, Arthur's definition of faith (citing the Hebrew word for believe) is "... the idea of an unqualified committal of oneself to another." On one of the leader tapes, Arthur defines the Greek word for believe as "firm conviction" and "full surrender." In looking these words up (e.g., in Vine's Expository Dictionary), however, it seems that Arthur chose certain words and left others out, conveying an unbalanced definition. For example, pisteuo in the Greek means to "entrust one's spiritual well-being to Christ and rely upon; to be persuaded, committed only in the sense of entrusted -- entrusting one's life to another to save." Arthur has taken something simple -- "I cannot save myself from the penalty for my sin, but You, Lord, can and did" -- and made it quite difficult. Granted, we must initially recognize our lost, sinful condition, and then surrender to Him by giving ourselves up to Him to save us through the application of His substitutionary, sacrificial death. But it is faith first and only then obedience; change of conduct follows faith because only then do we have the power within to live obediently. We can only live the Christian life as it is meant to be lived as we have the Holy Spirit within. Yet all too frequently, Arthur appears to believe that Christians must initially be either all for God, fully surrendered, or not one of His at all.



Christ's Law is **ALL THE COMMANDS** of the New Covenant as recorded in the New Testament.



I Thessalonians 2:13: We thank God continually because, when you received the **WORD OF GOD**, which you heard from us, you accepted it not as a human word, but as it actually is, the **WORD OF GOD**, which is at work in **YOU WHO BELIEVE**!!



I Corinthians 9:21: Paul said, "I am not free from God's law but am under **CHRIST'S LAW**!!"



John 16:12-14: Jesus says, "I have much more to say to you, more then you can now bear. But when the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own, he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will glorify Me because it is from Me that he will receive what he will make known to you!!"



Matthew 28:18-20: All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to **ME**! Therefore go and make disciples of all nations.... teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING I HAVE COMMANDED YOU**!"



Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony **FOR THE CHURCHES**!... I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book. If anyone **ADDS** anything to them, God will add to them the plagues described in this book. And if anyone **TAKES WORDS AWAY** from this book of prophecy, God will take away from them any share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City, which are described in this book!!"



Matthew 7:21-23: Jesus says, "Not everyone who says to Me, Lord, Lord,' will enter the Kingdom of Heaven, but onkly thosae who do the **WILL OF MY FATHER** in heaven. Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we no prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from Me you evildoers!'"



Acts 22:14,15: Ananias said to Paul, "The God of our ancestors has chosen you to know **HIS WILL** and to see the Righteous One and to hear words from His mouth!! You will be **HIS WITNESS** to all people of what you have seen and heard!



Acts 20:27: Paul said, "For I have not hesitated to proclaim to you the **WHOLE WILL OF GOD**!



God chose Paul to write 14 of the 27 books in the NT of **CHRIST'S LAW**! And God chose Paul to give the rules for teaching and preaching in the church by Elders, Overseers, Pastors and Teachers in I Timothy, 2 Timothy, Titus, I Corinthians 14 and Ephesians 4:11-24 and other places.



Some of these inspired writings include:



** WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY ABOUT THE PREACHING AND TEACHING OF MEN AND WOMEN IN THE CHURCH**??



Titus 1:6-9: An **ELDER** must be blameless, faithful to **HIS** wife, a **MAN** whose children believe... Since an **OVERSEER** manages God's household, **HE** must be blameless... **HE** must **HOLD FIRMLY** to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that **HE** can encourage others by **SOUND DOCTRINE and **REFUTE THOSE** WHO OPPOSE IT**.



I Timothy 5:17: The **ELDERS** who direct the affairs of the church well are worthy of a double honor, especially those whose work is **PREACHING ** and **TEACHING**!



I Timothy 3:1 Whoever desires to be an **OVERSEER** desires a noble task. Now the **OVERSEER**is to be above reproach, faithful to **HIS** wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable and **ABLE TO TEACH**!!



I Timothy 2:11: A **WOMAN** should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a **WOMEN** **TO TEACH** or to assume authority **OVER A MAN**!



I Corinthians 15:34,35:**WOMEN** should remain silent in the churches, They are not allowed **TO SPEAK**, but must be in submission, as the law says. If they want to inquire about anything, they should ask their husbands at home; for it is **DISGRACEFUL** for a **WOMAN** **TO SPEAK IN THE CHURCH**!!



2 Peter 3:15,16: Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our **DEAR BROTHER PAUL** also wrote you with the **WISDOM GOD GAVE TO HIM**. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand {To unbelievers} which **IGNORANT AND UNSTABLE PEOPLE DISTORT**, as they do other Scriptures, to their own **DESTRUCTION**!



I Timothy 3:16,17: All Scripture is **GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead and in view of His appearing and His Kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD**; be prepared in season in out of season, correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear!!



I Peter 1:23-25: For you have been **BORN AGAIN**, not of perishable seed but the imperishable, through the living and enduring **WORD OF GOD**. For all people are like grass, and all their glory is like flowers in the field; the grass withers and the flowers fail, but the **WORD OF THE LORD ENDURES FOREVER**!!



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Posted : 7 May, 2018 07:55 AM

Richard, EVERY WORD you've posted about KAY ARTHUR IS FROM WHAT IS POSTED ON FACEBOOK BY A PERSON WHO THINKS HE IS SPIRITUAL AND IS NOT! Is this the best you can do? BTW, who is the author of the WRITINGS YOU POSTED FROM FACEBOOK, AND WHAT ARE HIS CREDENTIALS THAT GIVES HIM such knowledge and insight about Kay Arthur? I realize you NEVER heard of any of these women ministers/pastor and especially KAY ARTHUR. I've been listen to her since 1995, and so, all of this is beyond your spiritual understand but you'll overcome one day and be enlightened... this is my prayer for you.

Teaching by Kay Arthur - "Marked for Eternity" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YudMAoeQhoQ

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Posted : 7 May, 2018 09:34 AM

Satanic Quote by zsoltx:



I believe the Bible contains the infallible word of God to us, but it was written by people. In some places, the writer's ideas and traditions shine through. For example, the Apostle Paul basically told women to shut up in church and wear a head covering. This clearly had to do with Jewish tradition, and is not applicable today.



Ella's response to Satanic quote by zsoltx:



"What an awesome comment. THANK YOU, my darling brother for your spiritual insight!"



Galatians 1:11,12; Paul was inspired by God to write, "I want you to know, brothers and sisters, that the Gospel I preached is not of human origin. I did not receive from any man, nor was I taught it; rather, I received it by **REVELATION FROM JESUS CHRIST**!!"

I Thessalonians 2:13: We thank God continually because, when you received the **WORD OF GOD**, which you heard from us, you accepted it not as a human word, but as it actually is, the **WORD OF GOD**, which is at work in **YOU WHO BELIEVE**!!



I Corinthians 9:21: Paul said, "I am not free from God's law but am under **CHRIST'S LAW**!!"



John 16:12-14: Jesus says, "I have much more to say to you, more then you can now bear. But when the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own, he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will glorify Me because it is from Me that he will receive what he will make known to you!!"



Matthew 28:18-20: All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to **ME**! Therefore go and make disciples of all nations.... teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING I HAVE COMMANDED YOU**!"



Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony **FOR THE CHURCHES**!... I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book. If anyone **ADDS** anything to them, God will add to them the plagues described in this book. And if anyone **TAKES WORDS AWAY** from this book of prophecy, God will take away from them any share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City, which are described in this book!!"



Matthew 7:21-23: Jesus says, "Not everyone who says to Me, Lord, Lord,' will enter the Kingdom of Heaven, but only those who do the **WILL OF MY FATHER** in heaven. Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we no prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from Me you evildoers!'"



Acts 22:14,15: Ananias said to Paul, "The God of our ancestors has chosen you to know **HIS WILL** and to see the Righteous One and to hear words from His mouth!! You will be **HIS WITNESS** to all people of what you have seen and heard!



Acts 20:27: Paul said, "For I have not hesitated to proclaim to you the **WHOLE WILL OF GOD**!



God chose Paul to write 14 of the 27 books in the NT of **CHRIST'S LAW**! And God chose Paul to give the rules for teaching and preaching in the church by Elders, Overseers, Pastors and Teachers in I Timothy, 2 Timothy, Titus, I Corinthians 14 and Ephesians 4:11-24 and other places.



Some of these inspired writings include:



** WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY ABOUT THE PREACHING AND TEACHING OF MEN AND WOMEN IN THE CHURCH**??



Titus 1:6-9: An **ELDER** must be blameless, faithful to **HIS** wife, a **MAN** whose children believe... Since an **OVERSEER** manages God's household, **HE** must be blameless... **HE** must **HOLD FIRMLY** to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that **HE** can encourage others by **SOUND DOCTRINE and **REFUTE THOSE** WHO OPPOSE IT**.



I Timothy 5:17: The **ELDERS** who direct the affairs of the church well are worthy of a double honor, especially those whose work is **PREACHING ** and **TEACHING**!



I Timothy 3:1 Whoever desires to be an **OVERSEER** desires a noble task. Now the **OVERSEER**is to be above reproach, faithful to **HIS** wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable and **ABLE TO TEACH**!!



I Timothy 2:11: A **WOMAN** should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a **WOMEN** **TO TEACH** or to assume authority **OVER A MAN**!



I Corinthians 15:34,35:**WOMEN** should remain silent in the churches, They are not allowed **TO SPEAK**, but must be in submission, as the law says. If they want to inquire about anything, they should ask their husbands at home; for it is **DISGRACEFUL** for a **WOMAN** **TO SPEAK IN THE CHURCH**!!



2 Peter 3:15,16: Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our **DEAR BROTHER PAUL** also wrote you with the **WISDOM GOD GAVE TO HIM**. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand {To unbelievers} which **IGNORANT AND UNSTABLE PEOPLE DISTORT**, as they do other Scriptures, to their own **DESTRUCTION**!



I Timothy 3:16,17: All Scripture is **GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead and in view of His appearing and His Kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD**; be prepared in season in out of season, correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear!!



I Peter 1:23-25: For you have been **BORN AGAIN**, not of perishable seed but the imperishable, through the living and enduring **WORD OF GOD**. For all people are like grass, and all their glory is like flowers in the field; the grass withers and the flowers fail, but the **WORD OF THE LORD ENDURES FOREVER**!!



So we will have to chose between the satanic teachings of zsoltx, Ella and Kay Lee Arthur and the **WORD OF GOD**!!



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Posted : 7 May, 2018 02:42 PM

Ella,

You are very big on people needing to have credentials in order to proclaim the Gospel of Messiah. By trusting in the credentials of men you show that you do not have faith in GOD Almighty to empower a person to proclaim and teach the Word of GOD Almighty.

Let me see, what credentials did Peter have, how about Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, they had no credentials from any CEMETERY training center. Each had the Holy Spirit and the revealed Word of GOD Almighty.

Paul counted ALL THINGS even his Jewish back round and training as but DUNG, compared to knowing Messiah and His ressurrection.

I secoND what Paul says about ALL things as DUNG.

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Posted : 7 May, 2018 05:27 PM

Ella

Please show in the Word of GOD Almighty these TITLES that you place a lot of impotrance upon.

SENIOR PASTOR

ASSISTANT PASTOR

YOUTH PASTOR

WORSHIP LEADR

WORSHIP BAND or TEAM

FIRST LADY ( Title given to the self proclaimed pastors wife )



How about showing where believers called themselves these names or titles:

Catholic

Protestant

Presbyterian

Baptist(Whether Northern, southern, eastern or western)

Ana Baptist

Episcopalian

Seventh day adventist, and any name they call themselves



Maybe these events are in the Word of GOD Almighty.

Worship SERVICE

pretzel sales

cake sales

car washes

Missions trip ( Another name for the self called pastors vacations )

Cell group meetings

Overcomers meetings



PASTOR APPRECIATION DAY



Ella, I might have been sleeping whIle reading thru the Word of GOD Almighty these past years.

Please help me to find these Titles,names and events. Thank you

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