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"For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers" (Rom. 8:29).
Posted : 10 Nov, 2011 02:32 AM

The Son of God sustains the relation of the Elder Brother to us. He is emphatically the "Firstborn." In another place we read, "Since therefore the children share in flesh and blood, he himself likewise partook of the same things" (Heb. 2:14). He is our "Brother born for adversity" (Prov. 17:17).



Our relation to him as our Brother is evidenced by our conformity to him as our model. We do not have any valid claim to relationship which does not spring from a resemblance to his image. The features may be weak and indistinctly visible, yet one line of holiness, one true feature, drawn upon the heart by the Holy Spirit, proves our fraternal relationship to him the "Firstborn."



And how large the brotherhood!�"many brothers." What the relative proportion of the church is to the world�how many will be saved�is a speculative and profitless question. But this we know�the number will be vast, countless (Rev. 7:9). The one family of God is composed of "many brothers."



They are not all of the same judgment in all matters, but they are all of the same spirit. The unity of the family of God is not ecclesiastical nor geographical, it is spiritual and essential. It is the "unity of the Spirit" (Eph. 4:3). Begotten of one Father in the nature of the Elder Brother through the regenerating grace of the one Spirit, all the saints of God constitute one church, one family, one brotherhood�essentially and indivisibly one.



Nor is this relationship difficult to recognize. Take an illustration. Two brothers in the Lord of different sections of the church, and of disagreement on some points of truth, meet and converse together. Each wonders how, with the Word of God in his hand, the other does not read it as he reads it, and interpret it as he interprets it. But they drop their points of difference, and take up their points of agreement. They speak of Jesus Christ�the Christ who loves them both, and whom they both love. They talk of the one Master whom they serve, of their common labors, and of their infirmities, trials and temptations, discouragements, failures, and successes. They speak of the heaven to which they are journeying�of their Father's house, in which they will dwell together for ever. They kneel in prayer. They cast themselves before the cross. The oil of gladness anoints them. Their hearts are broken. Their spirits are humbled. Their souls are blended. They rise and feel more deeply and more strongly than ever that they both belong to the same family, are both of the "many brothers" of whom the Son of God is the "Firstborn," their Elder Brother.



Oh, blessed unity! What perfect uniformity of creed, what strict conformity of ritual, what sameness of denominational relation, is for a moment to be compared with this? Do you, my reader, have this evidence that you belong to the "many brothers"?

by Octavius Winslow, 1856 (edited for

today's reader by Larry E. Wilson, 2010)





The church's one Foundation

is Jesus Christ her Lord;

she is his new creation

by water and the Word:

from heav'n he came and sought her

to be his holy bride;

with his own blood he bought her,

and for her life he died.



Elect from ev'ry nation,

yet one o'er all the earth,

her charter of salvation

one Lord, one faith, one birth;

one holy Name she blesses,

partakes one holy food.

And to one hope she presses,

with ev'ry grace endued.



Though with a scornful wonder

men see her sore oppressed,

by schisms rent asunder,

by heresies distressed,

yet saints their watch are keeping,

their cry goes up, "How long?"

and soon the night of weeping

shall be the morn of song.



The church shall never perish!

Her dear Lord to defend,

to guide, sustain and cherish

is with her to the end;

though there be those who hate her,

and false sons in her pale,

against or foe or traitor

she ever shall prevail.



'Mid toil and tribulation,

and tumult of her war,

she waits the consummation

of peace for evermore;

till with the vision glorious

her longing eyes are blest,

and the great church victorious

shall be the church at rest.



Yet she on earth hath union

with God the Three in One,

and mystic sweet communion

with those whose rest is won:

O happy ones and holy!

Lord, give us grace that we,

like them, the meek and lowly,

on high may dwell with thee.



(Samuel J. Stone, 1866)

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"For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers" (Rom. 8:29).
Posted : 10 Nov, 2011 06:31 AM

Donna,

I think that the one of the vipers has gotten to the management and had be booted..



Such godless hypocrites they are, that they cannot stand that any would question their presumed authority.



Anyway, I cannot access the site no more..



God bless you, and keep standing for the Word and Truth!



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"For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers" (Rom. 8:29).
Posted : 10 Nov, 2011 06:36 AM

Oops, I meant to say "they had me booted", because it reads that my profile no longer exists..?



The greatest lesson of a true child of God's life, is that they do not need to rely upon others, and that we were decreed to learn to STAND ALONE!



They must rely upon each other for support, and even upon each other to gain what appears to them to be a victory, because they walk in the power of the flesh!



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"For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers" (Rom. 8:29).
Posted : 10 Nov, 2011 07:06 AM

Well, the Lord has broken me free as He did Peter when he was in jail..



Some one on here tried to have me thrown off, but the Lord intervened, and I am allowed to stay...at least for now.



The ELECT are victorious!



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"For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers" (Rom. 8:29).
Posted : 10 Nov, 2011 07:56 AM

I LOVE this!! Indeed, the unity of the Holy Spirit draws us instantly heart to heart as brothers and sisters of our beloved Firstborn brother. What a glorious love bond we share!!

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"For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers" (Rom. 8:29).
Posted : 10 Nov, 2011 08:25 AM

Wasn't there other replies on here earlier? It seems I recall some opposing opinions. Hmmm.... I must be getting old.

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"For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers" (Rom. 8:29).
Posted : 10 Nov, 2011 12:02 PM

Ya there was...and you aint gettin old...



Interesting that this Gent was Banned months ago from here under another screen name mentions he is Banned now because some Viper turned him in but keeps on posting and praises God for not banning him...Whats up with that ???...:toomuch:...Anywho...Its all good...Yall Keep the Faith Rollin in Christ Jesus...xo

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"For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers" (Rom. 8:29).
Posted : 10 Nov, 2011 12:05 PM

Welcome CHOSEN !!!!!!



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"For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers" (Rom. 8:29).
Posted : 10 Nov, 2011 12:14 PM

The greatest lesson of a true child of God's life, is that they do not need to rely upon others, and that we were decreed to learn to STAND ALONE!



*** Is that right ?...Decreed to Stand Alone ???...I dont find that in the Bible...can ya give some Scripture to support that please...thanxs...xo

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"For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers" (Rom. 8:29).
Posted : 10 Nov, 2011 12:38 PM

Actually that is the exact opposite of what scripture teaches.

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"For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers" (Rom. 8:29).
Posted : 10 Nov, 2011 01:09 PM

Hello Chosen, greetings..



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