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In Search of True Christian Charity......
Posted : 12 Nov, 2010 08:48 AM

I am a conservative. I get my political views from the Bible, and

secondly from our constitution. I am a self-employed contractor, so

signing contracts and upholding them to the letter and the spirit, is

a very big part of my job.



I expect the constitution to be followed, and I am very unhappy that

we have went so far from it.



I have nothing but disgust for the socialists in this country.

The fact that they feign compassion constantly, while doing the

opposite just makes me hate them more.



I have debated a few misguided souls who I think are Christians but

have brought their liberalism with them, and they try to interpret the

Bible through their allegiance to leftism.



The worst examples want to reduce the Bible to two verses and then

misinterpret those two verses to fit modern leftist commandments.



Those verses are, or course:



1. "Judge not, lest ye be judged"



2. "Turn the other Cheek"





The misinterpretation is the modern leftist demands that no one ever

say that anything is a sin, and that we should be pacifists.



When you explain to them that the hebrew phrase "Turn the other cheek"

meant not to sue someone even though you have the right, they are not

interested. The Bible takes a back seat to their cherished political

beliefs.





I have said all that to say this: As a Christian, I know good and

well that compassion for the poor is my duty, and that God expects this

of every believer who has the means to do so.



I want to get TRUE CHRISTIAN CHARITY CORRECT.



I have found out that the typical leftist government idea of charity

is pretty much the opposite of what God says is charity.



I wish to help the poor. Not the artificial, always being redefined,

leftist definition of "poor", but what "poor" means in the Bible.



At one time I was very open minded about "the poor".

Then, I became a property manager and watched the total abuse of

welfare by the vast majority of people who were using it.



Then, I did something that changed me forever.



I went to the former soviet union.



I met actual poor people.



I had children come to me on the street begging.



It was quite a shock for a typical fat spoiled American like me.



I know there are some actual poor people in the USA.

But the vast majority that are counted as "poor" are not poor at all.

Not according the Biblical definition.



I have decided that I give to Head start, and if I actually know of

someone who is in need, I will certainly give to them.



I am against ALL government "charities" because I think they just grow

more "poor" people, so the Dems will (in theory) have more folks who

depend on them.



We have the richest "poor" people in the whole world!



The majority of my charitable giving goes to actual poor people in

other countries.



One thing I would like to point out to anyone who might be influenced

more by their leftwing politics than what the Bible says is that ALL

the admonitions for us to give to the poor SPECIFICALLY says that we

are to give it PERSONALLY. There is no "nanny state" in the Bible.

so, If I am against government taking everyone's money, and then taking

a HUGE chunk off the top, and giving the leftovers to whoever fills

out the proper forms.....PLEASE don't confuse that with "not caring

for the poor."



I am a Christian, and TRUE CHRISTIAN charity is very important to me.



"Conservatives are generous with their own money, liberals are

generous with other peoples money."









In Christ,



James

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In Search of True Christian Charity......
Posted : 12 Nov, 2010 09:36 AM

:applause:...Atta Boy James...Get up on that Soap Box...:bouncy:...an Thank You for being & getting Real...God Bless ya Brother...xo

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Posted : 12 Nov, 2010 09:42 AM

James, this is wonderful. I agree with much of what you said.

Question: Do you think that caring for orphans is a part of this? Do you think that Christian families have a duty to adopt orphans into their families? Adoption has turned into this thing that people mainly do when they're unable to have biological children, but adoption should be more about giving and less about taking? Your thoughts?

(I hope you come back to check on your topic since you're never on here anyone, but, if not, I know where to find you!!!)

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Posted : 12 Nov, 2010 11:02 AM

@James:



Yeshua says to take care of the widow and the orphans.

These are two people who cannot do much for themselves.



For the rest,give them a habd up and not a hand out..



Unless a man works,he should not eat.



Agape' and Charis:

St.George



ps:

I believe the body of believers do not need the governments 501c Tax exempt statis.



Are we not to be rendering to Ceasar what is Ceasars,and rendering to GOD what is GODS.

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Posted : 12 Nov, 2010 12:29 PM

@James

First let me say I could not agree more.

At times (I suspect like you) I get caught up in the politics of this world, this country. All does is make me angry.I have to constantly remind myself ; this is not my world, not my kingdom. As Jesus said before Pilate" My kingdom is not of this world." We live by the principles of the kingdom we give are allegiance to. When I remember that, it snaps me back to reality. Back to Jesus.

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Posted : 12 Nov, 2010 03:48 PM

Pixy,



I think that Charity is a responsibility of Christians according to their ability.



I would not say that adopting orphans is required duty of all Christians, because they may have a strong desire to do charitable works in some other area.



I would say it is a great thing to take care of Orphans, and if possible adopt an orphan.



Where I live in Missouri, there are Christian folks I know that have adopted girls from China, and boys and girls from Russia and Ukraine.



In Christ,



James

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