Oeps.... a very unfortunate and totally unintended abreviation of your avatar/username zer01972. I did not at all mean how it might sound/read. I apologise for that, I should have been more careful.
I asked where Jesus says circumcision should not be done anymore.
You reply stating that Jesus says it in 1 Cor. 7
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I did not know that Jesus wrote this letter.....
Anyway, I think we are getting on the same page with this quote indeed.
I Cor. 7
17 But as God hath distributed to every man, as the Lord hath called every one, so let him walk. And so ordain I in all churches.
18 Is any man called being circumcised? let him not become uncircumcised. Is any called in uncircumcision? let him not be circumcised.
19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.
20 Let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called
These verses accurately describe how meaningful and yet at the same time how unmeaningful circumcision is. Thank you for sharing and I enjoyed our brief but interesting interaction.
It takes time and patience to become acquainted on this site.
As I see it, there are various ways to get in touch with people.
First there is the hunting and chasing. You can view, wink, private and instant message your way to finding lady- perfectly- right-for me
Then there is the chat forum. I found this a wonderful way of getting to know some people of the board. There are heavy forums and fun forums, allowing you to get deeper into topics and just spam away.
And then there is the live chat. Amazingly, only the box for youngsters and 40+ is always loaded and yes, it is then somewhat difficult to cut in, although I must admit as soon as you log into those boxes, you are welcomed and invited to participate. Perhaps you need some panache to cut in, just barge in with something interesting and you will get response.
Also the live chat boxes for prayer, bible study and advise are mostly empty. Perhaps you have the gift to breathe in some life over there.
And then there is this complex about people being after a green card. I am foreign myself and I, nor any of my foreign friends on this site, are after a greencard.
I have said it before, and will do so again. The situation in the U.S.A. is far from desireable. Apart from its perceived decadency brought about by Vegas and Hollywood, there is also the declining economic situation, the high rate of unemployment and the sensation that americans are the number one target for terroristic acts, beating even the Isrealians. No, if a foreign woman shows interest in you, you can believe that in general it is because of you and not because you can supply a greencard.
I am not saying that this site is wonderful and without things to be improved but scammers, greencard chasers, unattentive chatters and busy attractive women you will find on all dating sites.
I am not saying you should stay on this site but the picture that you are drawing about CDFF is not a fair one.
I am always surprised how creative people are in thinking of ways to escape from God�s Commandments.
The fun part is, they profile themselves as better than Good, smarter than Wise and fuller than Truth.
Read Exodus 4, particulary the verses 24-26 and then try to hold up your philosophy of pain and higiene.
Also Luke 2:21 clearly states that Jesus Himself was circumsized.
Why would God send an angelic messenger to tell Maria that she would have a child and His name would be Jesus, and then kind of forgot to tell her that He should NOT be circumsized?
I just looked at your profile and it says that you are looking for a marriage partner.
Also your tastes, pursuits and pictures as showed in your profile do not match the title of your thread at all (the desire to have a baby without marriage)
Why are you so desperate to fill in all the holes in your happiness by yourself?
In the bible there is the story of Abraham and Sarai, who are both in their own particular ways convinced, that it is time for them to take action as to finally having a child. (Sarah offers him her slave Hagar and Abraham finishes the job so to speak)
Although this story does not seem to reflect your situation, it indeed has many similarities to your desires, fears and attitudes.
For instance:
1. They too are afraid to be left out
2. They too feel that other people should be brought in to serve their happiness without giving these 'third parties' the joy and fulfillment of being a parent and raising a child.
The slave Hagar will be brought in to give birth to a child but she will be left out as a mother: it will be Abraham�s son. With you it will be no different, just the opposite. It will be your child and the father will be denied fathership and husbandship.
There are many other similarities but I think you will find them easily for yourself.
I suggest you study this bible part, perhaps together with your pastor or a mature christian in your inner circle. You will then come to understand the dangers and caused pain of the decision you are about to make.
You will find this full story in Genesis 15, 16, 17 and 18.
