In the book of James, chapter 1, verses 22- 25, it reads :
But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your
own selves.
For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a
man beholding his natural face in a glass:
For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway
forgetteth what manner of man he was.
But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth
therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this
man shall be blessed in his deed.
This being true, should righteous men consider women professing Christ to be deceived, if they refuse to acknowledge, obey, or conform to 1Timothy 2:8-10 and 1 Peter 3:3-6, once they have been lovingly taught and exposed to these spiritual instructions?
Should women be avoided, who show very little, or no concern for modesty, shamefacedness, and sobriety, or who express dislike, or negative comments towards these verses?
The verses read as follows:
I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands,
without wrath and doubting.
In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest
apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair,
or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good
works. 1Timothy 2:8-10
Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the
hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;
But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not
corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is
in the sight of God of great price.
For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who
trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their
own husbands:
Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him Lord: whose daughters
ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any
Thank you for your words of encouragement. They truly are an inspiration and blessing to me. :waving: It is always a joy to see the Spirit of God at work in the hearts of His children. May God bless you, and keep you in all that you say and do for His glory. :prayingm:
Thankfully,
Artie P.S. Your comments truly reveal your love and passion for the things of God, and the word of God. I truly enjoyed my time conversing with you. Take care :glow:
I have no need to impress anyone as most of the ladies here are not what I am looking for. Never married, no children, etc. I was pointing out that your post and attitude seems to be an attempt to judge the ladies here. The Bible is used to teach man, not to beat women into submission. Submission, which I might add, you have no right to as you are not their husband. Your "holier than thou" attitude is offensive and contrary to the word of God. A Christian is to attempt to walk in the ways of Christ, not the Pharisees.
Your words of hostility and reproach rejoices my heart greatly. For by them are the Holy Scriptures both magnified and illuminated in this place. I am both strengthen and emboldened to preach Christ the more, and as Timothy was charged through the Holy writings of the apostle Paul, so too I have a received of God, both strengthening and quickening of the Spirit for the keeping of the same. I know the more, that these are the times, of which the apostle spoke, when he by the unction of the Holy Spirit, wrote the following:
But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God�having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with them.
They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over weak-willed women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, always learning but never able to acknowledge the truth. Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these men oppose the truth�men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected. 9But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone.
You, however, know all about my teaching, my way of life, my purpose, faith, patience, love, endurance, persecutions, sufferings�what kinds of things happened to me in Antioch, Iconium and Lystra, the persecutions I endured. Yet the Lord rescued me from all of them. In fact, everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted, while evil men and impostors will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have become convinced of, because you know those from whom you learned it, and how from infancy you have known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. 2 Timothy 3:1-17
I therefore greatly rejoice in the sufferings of Christ, knowing confidently that these same afflictions have been accomplished, and are being accomplished in my brethren which have come into this world. 1 Peter 5:9 SELAH
In reply to your original text I'm going to keep it short and sweet...a woman of God should desire to be with a righteous man. After all the man should be the spiritual leader. What God fearing woman doesn't want a man like David, whose heart was after God?
God bless you my brother in Christ! May His peace be with you!
God Bless You too sister 0Melanie0 in Jesus name!!!
Thank you for taking the time to respond to this post. Your opinion on this matter I hope will begin to spark some meaningful dialogue on this topic. My goal is to get some unbiased feedback on the issues of modesty, shamefacedness, and sobriety among Christian women in this site. The question was asked in light of the opening scriptures I posted. In other words, can a woman love a righteous man who believes in the biblical standards of modesty? Could she truly love enough to see beyond herself, and her desires, into the place where God ( through the inspired word) was/is attempting to take her? Could she truly walk joyfully in the humility of God when it come to fashion, without being grieved by the word? Could she truly see herself as a "daughter of Sarah" with God esteem, without calling herself "plain Jane" ? Can she really love a man for God like that?
God is the Creator. He understands the times. You quoted Scripture earlier about woman adorning herself in modest apparel. I believe this means not to be overdone. Women are the weaker vessel and I believe we shouldn't dress in a way that draws too much attention to ourselves. The Spirit we carry should attract people not our physical appearances. A man wanting a modest woman is a good thing, it is a God thing!
I Praise God for your comments, which speak from the truth of the word.Today the church is so silent on this issue, to where people tend to act as though the bible speaks nothing about how one should carry themselves as those professing Christ. If God would take the time to inspire these words to be written, surely he intended for us to live by them, and apply them daily in our everyday walk. Jesus clearly taught us that " Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God." Matt.4:4
In addition, the apostle Paul, ( who was chosen by Jesus himself ), clearly informed us that " All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. 2 Tim. 3:16-17 Based on these, and many other portions of scripture, I believe
that we (both men and women) have an obligation to God to uphold the standards taught to us, by those he chose to instruct us. I do not believe that God inspired these words, just for us to ignore them, or to live life as though we have some exclusive right to "opt out " of doing them. This is the mindset of many in the church today. As a result, we have many professing people of God dressing in the "attire of a harlot" as spoken of in the book of Proverbs, and thinking that God accepts this standard as being Godly modesty, but he clearly does not. This is the basis of the questions I originally asked.
1.Should righteous men consider women professing Christ to be deceived, if they refuse to acknowledge, obey, or conform to 1Timothy 2:8-10 and 1 Peter 3:3-6, once they have been lovingly taught and exposed to these spiritual instructions?
2.Should women be avoided, who show very little, or no concern for modesty, shamefacedness, and sobriety, or who express dislike, or negative comments towards these verses?
In other words, what is a righteous man's spiritual service to God in dealing with haughtiness in women professing Christ?
I believe the only way to deal with these types of women are to love them. Follow Christs example. We can choose not to let these people in the holy of holies or even the inner court. I was researching inner healing and deliverance, and I learned that we have many facets to our person and not all theses personas have come to know the Lord. As each surface we need to quickly surrender them to Christ. Maybe some women do not want or have not yet surrendered something over to Him.
