We keep having thread after thread about sin great for the higher way of thought, but what about simple salvation? Did you witness today, lead someone to Messiah? Lets rejoice in His salvation unless He can not save someone unless they know the "rules" ... Is not that stupid... Lets put the focus on Him and salvation. Does any of you know what it is to lead a man/woman to Messiah?....
Tell the story .... no greater high or better story than someone being saved from a devels hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We keep having thread after thread about sin great for the higher way of thought, but what about simple salvation? Did you witness today, lead someone to Messiah? Lets rejoice in His salvation unless He can not save someone unless they know the "rules" ... Is not that stupid... Lets put the focus on Him and salvation. Does any of you know what it is to lead a man/woman to Messiah?....
Tell the story .... no greater high or better story than someone being saved from a devels hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Joh 6:44 No one is able to come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him, and I will raise him up in the last day.
Joh 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, I will draw all to Myself.
Mat 28:18 And coming up Jesus talked with them, saying, All authority in Heaven and on earth was given to Me.
Mat 28:19 Then having gone, disciple all nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
Mat 28:20 teaching them to observe all things, whatever I commanded you. And, behold, I am with you all the days until the completion of the age. Amen.
Gardner:
Personally myself,i do not see Yesuha laying upon me the responsiblitiy of 'LEADING ' anyone to Himself.
I do see the responsibility of Proclaiming the Gospel,and discipling others.
The responsibility of Drawing a person belongs to the Father,YHWH.
If i believe this responsibility belongs to myself,then am i not trying to be standing in the Position of being YHWH,or even trying to be that persons Saviour.
George I am speechless *elishas jaw dropping* really ?? what about the great commision? so you have no responsibilty at all? you can sin all you want to never withness to anyone and not go to church but you think you got it??? boy YALL WE GOT TO PRAY FOR THIS MAN!
at cubed as a matter of fact I did witness today to a girl as I was shopping a sweet girl I ran into at the christain mission thrift store she goes to the grocery store where I work she says she always gets in my line becasue she likes the way I bag her groceries for some reason she started talikng about some new wine coolers we are selling now and I told her as I had the chance that God gave me how I was instantly deliverd from smoking and drinking by one trip to the alter shje was floored by the time we had finished talking she had asked my for my phone number and wanted to know if we could spend some time together I was pleased to give it to her and told her i would love to tell her moreof the wonderous things of God, the lady behind the counter heard us speaking I could tell she was a christian already but I also could tel my testimony and my willingness to share it had touched her! We are called to share the things that God does for us for his Glory not our own!
George please hun get a clue please quit being such a rebel God wants to give you great things but you are so stiuff necked he cant bless you
But its UNBELIEVABLE WHAT GEORGE SAID!... walking away shaking my head... WOW! I really can't believe what I read!:nahnah::zzzz::rolleyes::excited:
Proverbs 11:30
The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life, and he who wins souls is wise.
We are called to be witnesses for Christ of His saving grace in our lives and tell others about the love of Jesus and His accomplished work on the cross so that WHOSOEVER WILL BELIEVE IN HIM SHOULD NOT PERISH BUT WILL HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE!
Our commission from Chirst is to GO and tell others about the blessed promise of the Father and His goodness in our lives.
Jesus says in Acts 1:8 But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me[a] in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.�
This was not just for the disciples or the apostles, this for ALL BELIEVERS WHO ARE CALLED BY HIS NAME WHO PROFESS AND CONFESS THAT THEY ARE FOLLOWERS OF JESUS CHIRST.E ARE CALLED TO BE HIS WITNESSES...
In case you did kno George, being a bonr again believers is more than just comfessing Jesus Christ withy our MOUTH, its about works of witnessing to other which we will have to giev an account of before God at judgment.... good question that was asked, HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE YOU TOLD AND SHARED YOUR FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST AND WHAT HE HAS DONE FOR YOU? HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE YOU TOLD ABOUT SALAVTION THROUGH THE CROSS TODAY, YESTERDAY, LAST WEEK, OR THIS MONTH? ARE YOU A TRUE DISCIPLE OF JESUS CHRIST, IF SO THEN YOU SHOULD BE WITINESSING TO OTHERS ABOUT HIM.
James chapter 5:19 Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back, 20 let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins.
Joh 6:44 No one is able to come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him, and I will raise him up in the last day.
Joh 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, I will draw all to Myself.
Mat 28:18 And coming up Jesus talked with them, saying, All authority in Heaven and on earth was given to Me.
Mat 28:19 Then having gone, disciple all nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
Mat 28:20 teaching them to observe all things, whatever I commanded you. And, behold, I am with you all the days until the completion of the age. Amen.
Gardner:
Personally myself,i do not see Yesuha laying upon me the responsiblitiy of 'LEADING ' anyone to Himself.
I do see the responsibility of Proclaiming the Gospel,and discipling others.
The responsibility of Drawing a person belongs to the Father,YHWH.
If i believe this responsibility belongs to myself,then am i not trying to be standing in the Position of being YHWH,or even trying to be that persons Saviour.
Just thinking out loud..
Shalom and Chesed
The Gardner
Had either of you ladies taken the time to understand my post,you would have noticed that i had posted the mandate of Yeshua of 'GOING into the world making disciples,and proclaiming the Gospel.
Yet the responsibility of bringing a person to Yeshua is that of the Father.
In Proverbs 11:30
Pro_11:30 The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life; and he that winneth souls is wise.
English-Winneth
Hebrew-lâqach
H3947
לקח
lâqach
BDB Definition:
1) to take, get, fetch, lay hold of, seize, receive, acquire, buy, bring, marry, take a wife, snatch, take away
1a) (Qal)
1a1) to take, take in the hand
1a2) to take and carry along
1a3) to take from, take out of, take, carry away, take away
1a4) to take to or for a person, procure, get, take possession of, select, choose, take in marriage, receive, accept
1a5) to take up or upon, put upon
1a6) to fetch
1a7) to take, lead, conduct
1a8) to take, capture, seize
1a9) to take, carry off
1a10) to take (vengeance)
1b) (Niphal)
1b1) to be captured
1b2) to be taken away, be removed
1b3) to be taken, brought unto
1c) (Pual)
1c1) to be taken from or out of
1c2) to be stolen from
1c3) to be taken captive
1c4) to be taken away, be removed
1d) (Hophal)
1d1) to be taken unto, be brought unto
1d2) to be taken out of
1d3) to be taken away
1e) (Hithpael)
1e1) to take hold of oneself
1e2) to flash about (of lightning)
Part of Speech: verb
A Related Word by BDB/Strong�s Number: a primitive root
Now,who is the ONLY person which is able to lay hold of a persons soul.
'YESHUA'.
So then,the wise person which saves souls is YESHUA.
As far as James,a person is used of YHWH in the lives of others.
To turn a person is the complete work of the holy Spirit,He uses people as His instruments to proclaim the Gospel.
The Holy Siprit convicts the person and brings the person to Yeshua.
All of this is the workings of the Triune Godhead.
Shalom and Chesed
The Gardner
ps:
elisha,how do you come up with your ideas about what i do personally.
You,nor anyone else on this site knows me,nor has a clue as to what Yeshua is doing with me,and through me.
Paul said something like this, you are yet fleshly! some say I am of Paul others say I am of apolopas who is paul and who is apolouas paul plantes apoluose waterd but it was god who gave the increase!
Dont you realize what Gods sonerginty is? He uses us? The things he does for us is not just to bless us and make our life easy but it is to give us something wonderful to tell the world! Would he have deliverd me from those things for me to keep my mouth shut and not tell others! I dont think we are to be like amway salesmen but when the opportunity presents itsself we are to GIVE HIM THE GLORY FOR THE GREAT THINGS HE HAS DONE!! The Gad uses us in the drawing is you are spirit filled you know that!
You said you dont go to church george thats not hard to figure out you dont seek godly council and by the things you say and believe I KNOW YOU ARE LEARNING THINGS BASED ON YOUR fleshly understandig! really? give me a break you cant just go your own direction God has set things in the order in which they are! you talk about his sovergnty but you refuse to except that he has set things up in the present age to bennifit us! He puts these things in place our responsibilty is to check our flesh against the doctrine we are believing if we believe it becasue it feels good to our flesh then we may be believing a lie for the sake of our flesh! But whaht you say is sp far out in left field if you are taking council at all (which I doubt) then you are certainly taking council from someone and you have not checked you flesh against the doctrine
All I can say is WOW, GEORGE, YOU AND YOUR JESUS ARE UNBELIEVEABLE!!! How then are you a SERVANT FOR THE KINGDOM OF GOD IF YOUR JESUS HAS NOT ENCOURAGED YOU TO BE A WITNESS FOR HIM? NOR HAS YOUR JESUS TOLD YOU THAT YOU HAVE NEED TO BE A WITNESS WITH THE GOSPEL OF THE CROSS TO OTHERS? WOW!!
So what do you do to serve YOUR JESUS beside givng lip serve to His name... WAHT HAVE YOU DONE FOR THE REAL JESUS LATELY TOWARD ADVANCING THE KINGDOM OF GOD?????? According to you is all YOUR JESUS requires of you is to BELIEVE, and od NOTHING ELSE???:zzzz: I think you are involved with the wrong Jesus, your Jesus sound rather lazy!:excited::ROFL:
Proverbs 11:Verse 30 - Commentary by John Wesley
The fruit - His discourses and his whole conversation, is like the fruit of the tree of life. Winneth - That gains souls to God.
Gevena BibleThe 1599 Geneva Study Bible (Calvinist Bible)
Proverbs 11:30 The fruit of the righteous [is] a tree of life; and he that s winneth souls [is] wise. That is, brings them to the knowledge of God.
Matthew Henry Commentary Proverbs 11:30 The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life; and he that winneth souls is wise. This shows what great blessings good men are, especially those that are eminently wise, to the places where they live, and therefore how much to be valued. 1. The righteous are as trees of life; the fruits of their piety and charity, their instructions, reproofs, examples, and prayers, their interest in heaven, and their influence upon earth, are like the fruits of that tree, precious and useful, contributing to the support and nourishment of the spiritual life in many; they are the ornaments of paradise, God's church on earth, for whose sake it stands. 2. The wise are something more; they are as trees of knowledge, not forbidden, but commanded knowledge. He that is wise, by communicating his wisdom, wins souls, wins upon them to bring them in love with God and holiness, and so wins them over into the interests of God's kingdom among men. The wise are said to turn many to righteousness, and that is the same with winning souls here, Daniel 12:3. Abraham's proselytes are called the souls that he had gotten, Genesis 12:5. Those that would win souls have need of wisdom to know how to deal with them; and those that do win souls show that they are wise.
I am "born again" and witness to others about the goodness of Jesus. God's plan of Salvation is through His Only Son, Jesus Christ.Jesus saved me, brought me out of darkness into the marvelous LIGHT.
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Matthew 28:19
Jesus fulfills the Old Testament prophecies of a coming Messiah.
As Messiah, Jesus is also King and worthy of our worship.
