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Admin	Two plus Two Posted : 17 Aug, 2013 07:10 AM Does not equal four because of the context. Men's approach to God endeavoring to twist his word to fit their liking Post Reply
View Profile History	Two plus Two Posted : 17 Aug, 2013 09:34 AM 2 Sheep + 2 Goats does not equal 4 sheep. Context will always matter despite SOME who will continue to try to say otherwise. Post Reply
View Profile History	Two plus Two Posted : 17 Aug, 2013 10:56 AM 2 Sheep + 2 Goats does not equal 4 sheep. It does with some theology's Context will always matter despite SOME who will continue to try to say otherwise. Your statement is one that clearly says by your action you do not believe the word of God is The Truth. Post Reply
View Profile History	Two plus Two Posted : 17 Aug, 2013 11:07 AM For the record -- I believe the Word of God is the Truth! Will you call me a liar now? "The authority of the Holy Scripture, for which it ought to be believed, and obeyed, depends not upon the testimony of any man, or Church; but wholly upon God (who is truth itself) the author thereof: and therefore it is to be received, because it is the Word of God" 1.2. Under the name of Holy Scripture, or the Word of God written, are now contained all the books of the Old and New Testaments, which are these, Of the Old Testament: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua, Judges, Ruth, I Samuel, II Samuel, I Kings, II Kings, I Chronicles, II Chronicles, Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther, Job, Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, The Song of Songs, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Lamentations, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Amos, Obadiah, Jonah, Micah, Nahum, Habakkuk, Zephaniah, Haggai, Zechariah, Malachi. Of the New Testament: The Gospels according to Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, The Acts of the Apostles, Paul's Epistles to the Romans, Corinthians I, Corinthians II, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, Thessalonians I , Thessalonians II , To Timothy I , To Timothy II, To Titus, To Philemon, The Epistle to the Hebrews, The Epistle of James, The first and second Epistles of Peter, The first, second, and third Epistles of John, The Epistle of Jude, The Revelation of John. All which are given by inspiration of God to be the rule of faith and life 3. All which are given by inspiration of God to be the rule of faith and life. (Luke 16:29, 31, Eph. 2:20, Rev. 22:18�19, 2 Tim. 3:16) 4. The authority of the Holy Scripture, for which it ought to be believed, and obeyed, dependeth not upon the testimony of any man, or Church; but wholly upon God (who is truth itself) the author thereof: and therefore it is to be received, because it is the Word of God. (2 Pet. 1:19, 21, 2 Tim. 3:16, 1 John 5:9, 1 Thess. 2:13) 5. We may be moved and induced by the testimony of the Church to an high and reverend esteem of the Holy Scripture. (1 Tim. 3:15) And the heavenliness of the matter, the efficacy of the doctrine, the majesty of the style, the consent of all the parts, the scope of the whole (which is, to give all glory to God), the full discovery it makes of the only way of man�s salvation, the many other incomparable excellencies, and the entire perfection thereof, are arguments whereby it doth abundantly evidence itself to be the Word of God: yet notwithstanding, our full persuasion and assurance of the infallible truth and divine authority thereof, is from the inward work of the Holy Spirit bearing witness by and with the Word in our hearts. (1 John. 2:20, John 16:13�14, 1 Cor. 2:10�12, Isa. 59:21) 6. The whole counsel of God concerning all things necessary for His own glory, man�s salvation, faith and life, is either expressly set down in Scripture, or by good and necessary consequence may be deduced from Scripture: unto which nothing at any time is to be added, whether by new revelations of the Spirit or traditions of men. (2 Tim. 3:15�17, Gal. 1:8�9, 2 Thess. 2:2) Nevertheless, we acknowledge the inward illumination of the Spirit of God to be necessary for the saving understanding of such things as are revealed in the Word: (John 6:45, 1 Cor 2:9�12) and that there are some circumstances concerning the worship of God, and government of the Church, common to human actions and societies, which are to be ordered by the light of nature, and Christian prudence, according to the general rules of the Word, which are always to be observed. (1 Cor. 11:13�14, 1 Cor. 14:26, 40) 7. All things in Scripture are not alike plain in themselves, nor alike clear unto all: (2 Pet. 3:16) yet those things which are necessary to be known, believed, and observed for salvation, are so clearly propounded, and opened in some place of Scripture or other, that not only the learned, but the unlearned, in a due use of the ordinary means, may attain unto a sufficient understanding of them. (Ps. 119:105, 130) 8. The Old Testament in Hebrew (which was the native language of the people of God of old), and the New Testament in Greek (which, at the time of the writing of it, was most generally known to the nations), being immediately inspired by God, and, by His singular care and providence, kept pure in all ages, are therefore authentical; (Matt. 5:18) so as, in all controversies of religion, the Church is finally to appeal unto them. (Isa. 8:20, Acts 15:15, John 5:39, 46) But, because these original tongues are not known to all the people of God, who have right unto, and interest in the Scriptures, and are commanded, in the fear of God, to read and search them, (John 5:39) therefore they are to be translated into the vulgar language of every nation unto which they come, (1 Cor. 14:6, 9, 11�12, 24, 27�28) that, the Word of God dwelling plentifully in all, they may worship Him in an acceptable manner; (Col. 3:16) and, through patience and comfort of the Scriptures, may have hope. (Rom. 15:4) 9. The infallible rule of interpretation of Scripture is the Scripture itself: and therefore, when there is a question about the true and full sense of any Scripture (which is not manifold, but one), it must be searched and known by other places that speak more clearly. (2 Pet. 1:20�21, Acts 15:15�16) 10. The supreme judge by which all controversies of religion are to be determined, and all decrees of councils, opinions of ancient writers, doctrines of men, and private spirits, are to be examined, and in whose sentence we are to rest, can be no other but the Holy Spirit speaking in the Scripture. (Matt. 22:29, 31, Eph. 2:20, Acts 28:25) Post Reply
View Profile History	Two plus Two Posted : 17 Aug, 2013 11:13 AM Who is being sited here ???...where was IWA's reply sourced from ???...thanxs in advance..xo. Post Reply
View Profile History	Two plus Two Posted : 17 Aug, 2013 11:59 AM Jude -- sorry. This is cited from the Westminster Confession of Faith. I felt it an adequate summary of my beliefs concerning the Word of God. Post Reply
dljrn04 View Profile History	Two plus Two Posted : 17 Aug, 2013 12:02 PM "The supreme judge by which all controversies of religion are to be determined, and all decrees of councils, opinions of ancient writers, doctrines of men, and private spirits, are to be examined, and in whose sentence we are to rest, can be no other but the Holy Spirit speaking in the Scripture. (Matt. 22:29, 31, Eph. 2:20, Acts 28:25)" :applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause: AMEN !!!!!!!!!!! Post Reply
View Profile History	Two plus Two Posted : 17 Aug, 2013 01:57 PM For the record -- I believe the Word of God is the Truth! Will you call me a liar now? No I say the word of God is the Truth, no one can say they accept it as the word of God, and then add to it, or take away from it. "The authority of the Holy Scripture, for which it ought to be believed, and obeyed, depends not upon the testimony of any man, or Church; but wholly upon God (who is truth itself) the author thereof: and therefore it is to be received, because it is the Word of God. Here is an example: Ac 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: To alter this fact of the nature of God by saying that is not inclusive of all people is to say god is a respecter of persons. To say that he is a respecter of person, is to deny he is love. Post Reply
View Profile History	Two plus Two Posted : 17 Aug, 2013 05:56 PM TC, tell us what this means please. Gen 4 3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD 4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD HAD RESPECT UNTO ABEL and to his offering: 5 BUT UNTO CAIN AND TO HIS OFFERING HE HAD NOT RESPECT. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell. Post Reply
View Profile History	Two plus Two Posted : 17 Aug, 2013 11:55 PM The answer is very simple one cannot understand the bible if he does accept the teaching of faith. Cain's actions is the same thing as Eve action in the Garden , he did not do what the word of God declared. It is the very same approach that is used in reformation theology, people putting their opinion to the word of God. Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	Two plus Two Posted : 19 Aug, 2013 06:08 AM God is no respecter of persons, but he is a respecter of obedience. God went to Cain and advised him to repent and overcome sin. "5but for Cain and his offering he had no regard. So Cain was very angry, and his face fell. 6The LORD said to Cain, �Why are you angry, and why has your face fallen? 7If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door. Its desire is for you, but you must rule over it.�" God respected both people, although he did not respect their actions, but He obviously still cared about Cain or no warning would have been given. :peace::peace: Post Reply

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