Author	Thread: Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches.....I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this Book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book {Including eternel hell}. And if anyone takes *WORDS AWAY* {Like Roman Catholic and Calvinistic Preterists} from this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The **NEW JERUSALEM**}, which are described in this Book.!!"
Admin	Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches.....I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this Book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book {Including eternel hell}. And if anyone takes *WORDS AWAY* {Like Roman Catholic and Calvinistic Preterists} from this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The **NEW JERUSALEM**}, which are described in this Book.!!" Posted : 17 Sep, 2013 06:50 AM It is interesting to note that Luther did not believe that James and Revelation were the inspired Words of God. Calvin also did not believe that Revelation was the inspired Words of God and wrote a Commentary on every book in the Protestant Bible except Revelation??? Since all the Protestant Bibles now include the Book of Revelation most Calvinistic theologians like Dr. Kenneth Gentry will never admit that Revelation is not part of God's Word but believe that the Olivet sermon of Jesus in Matthew 24 & 25, Mark 13 and Luke 21 has already happened historically or before AD 70 and that the New Jerusalem is a symbolic fairy tale. JESUS WILL WRITE ON US THE NAME OF THE CITY OF GOD THE *NEW JERUSALEM*!! Revelation 2:18; 3:12,21: Jesus says, "To him who overcomes I will give him a white stone with a new name written on it, known only to him who receives it...And I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will he leave it. I will write on him the name of the City of My God, the NEW JERUSALEM, which is coming down out of heaven from My God....And I will give the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne." According to Revelation 22:3 the only 2 thrones in the New Jerusalem will be the thrones of the Father and of the Lamb Jesus Christ. Post Reply
View Profile History	Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches.....I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this Book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book {Including eternel hell}. And if anyone takes *WORDS AWAY* {Like Roman Catholic and Calvinistic Preterists} from this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The **NEW JERUSALEM**}, which are described in this Book.!!" Posted : 17 Sep, 2013 06:52 AM WE ARE ALL WAITING FOR THE NEW EARTH, THE NEW HEAVENS AND THE HEAVENLY NEW JERUSALEM!! Revelation 21:1-5: Then I saw a New heaven and a New Earth, for the {present} first heaven and first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the **NEW JERUSALEM**, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and He will live with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes, There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away." He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making **EVERYTHING NEW**!" Then He said, "Write this down, for these words are TRUSTWORTHY and TRUE!" 2 Peter 3:10-13: But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will DISAPPEAR with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and *EVERYTHING* in it will be burned up {NIV}. Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives as you wait eagerly for the Day of God to come. {NIV} That Day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with His promise **WE** {Excluding the Preterists and the RC church} are looking forward to a New heavens and a New Earth, the home of righteousness. Hebrews 11:13-16: All these people {Abraham, Sarah Isaac, Jacob, Noah etc} were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised; they only saw them from a distance. And they admitted that they were aliens and strangers on earth. People who say such things show they are looking for a country of their own. If they had been thinking of the country they had left, they would have had opportunity to return. Instead, they were looking for a BETTER COUNTRY--a HEAVENLY ONE. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a *CITY* (The *NEW JERUSALEM*} for them!! Galatians 4:25,26: Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. But the **JERUSALEM** that is **ABOVE** is free, and she is our MOTHER !! :angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel: Post Reply
View Profile History	Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches.....I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this Book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book {Including eternel hell}. And if anyone takes *WORDS AWAY* {Like Roman Catholic and Calvinistic Preterists} from this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The **NEW JERUSALEM**}, which are described in this Book.!!" Posted : 17 Sep, 2013 07:28 AM I recently spoke with Dr. Gentry and have confirmed that his brand new work on Revelation should be available from the publisher early 2014. If you are looking for a thorough exegetical commentary on the book of Revelation, I would recommend this work. It represents years and years of dedicated study and scholarly research. You can find more info here: http://www.kennethgentry.com/categories/Revelation-Commentary-Project/ On top of being a true scholar, Ken is a great guy and his work will be a blessing to the body of Christ. Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches.....I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this Book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book {Including eternel hell}. And if anyone takes *WORDS AWAY* {Like Roman Catholic and Calvinistic Preterists} from this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The **NEW JERUSALEM**}, which are described in this Book.!!" Posted : 17 Sep, 2013 08:50 AM I'm not sure if that's the final cost, but $50 is a bit steep for a man's opinion:laugh:. Here's a free bible study about the second coming, the thousands years in heaven when we judge angels, the second resurrection and final destruction of the wicked, and the new earth/Jerusalem. http://www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/storacle/e/5337/t/resting-the-land.aspx :peace::peace: Post Reply
View Profile History	Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches.....I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this Book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book {Including eternel hell}. And if anyone takes *WORDS AWAY* {Like Roman Catholic and Calvinistic Preterists} from this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The **NEW JERUSALEM**}, which are described in this Book.!!" Posted : 17 Sep, 2013 11:19 AM Well Mark, In this case, you definitely get what you pay for. :laugh: The site goes to pretty great lengths to hide that it is part of the SDA cult - which is not a surprise. If they are so proud of the SDA movement and so convinced of it's truth, why not boldly put out there that they are SDA? In fact, here is good ole' Pastor Doug's page: "Today he is the senior pastor of Sacramento Central Church in California and the president of Amazing Facts". Sounds pretty benign and non-denominational, doesn't it? But...... a quick spin on google and what do we find? We find good ole' Pastor Doug Batchelor again --- Sacramento Central SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST church. Mark, doesn't want to pay $50.00 for a "man's opinion" but he is happy to FREELY devour the opinions of an SDA cult leader as well as the opinion of the false prophet Ellen White. :laugh: Post Reply
View Profile History	Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches.....I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this Book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book {Including eternel hell}. And if anyone takes *WORDS AWAY* {Like Roman Catholic and Calvinistic Preterists} from this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The **NEW JERUSALEM**}, which are described in this Book.!!" Posted : 17 Sep, 2013 11:47 AM Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus says, "*WHEN* the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the angels with Him {See Matthew 24:29-31 below}, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people on from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. **THEN** the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!" **THEN** He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. **THEN they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life!!" Matthew 13:39-43: Jesus says, �The Harvest is the *END OF THE AGE and the harvesters are *ANGELS*. As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the *END OF THE AGE*. The Son of Man will send out His *ANGELS*, and they will weed out of His kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. *THEN the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father!� Post Reply
View Profile History	Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches.....I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this Book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book {Including eternel hell}. And if anyone takes *WORDS AWAY* {Like Roman Catholic and Calvinistic Preterists} from this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The **NEW JERUSALEM**}, which are described in this Book.!!" Posted : 17 Sep, 2013 12:03 PM �You can spend $40 to buy the book by Calvinist, Dr Kenneth Gentry who will tell you the Satanic Preterist doctrine that all of the Olivet sermon of Jesus as recorded in Matthew 24 & 25, Mark 13 and Luke 21 and all of Revelation and the New Jerusalem symbolically took place by AD 70. Then you can spend another $50 to buy the 7th Day Adventist book which is just as ridiculous. � Matthew 24:29-31: Jesus says, �Immediately after the distress of those {1260} days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light and the stars will fall from the sky.� {Luke 21:28 adds �When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.�} Then the nations will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a loud {7TH & LAST} *TRUMPET* CALL and they will gather *His elect* from the 4 winds {Mark 13:27b adds:} �from the ends of the earth {Saints on earth} to� the ends of the Heavens {Saints in Heaven}!!� Did Matthew 24:29-31 and Matthew 25:31-46 take place in AD 70 ????? 2 Thess 1:1,6-10:� �To the *CHURCH* of the Thessalonians�God is just; He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you and give relief to you who are troubled, and to us as well.� This will happen *WHEN* the Lord Jesus is *REVEALED* {See I Peter 1:13} from heaven in blazing fire�.� He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.� They will be punished with everlasting *DESTRUCTION* and shut out from the presence of the Lord *ON THE DAY HE COMES* to be glorified in His holy people!!� :angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel: Post Reply
View Profile History	Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches.....I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this Book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book {Including eternel hell}. And if anyone takes *WORDS AWAY* {Like Roman Catholic and Calvinistic Preterists} from this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The **NEW JERUSALEM**}, which are described in this Book.!!" Posted : 17 Sep, 2013 12:15 PM "You can spend $40 to buy the book by Calvinist, Dr Kenneth Gentry who will tell you the Satanic Preterist doctrine that all of the Olivet sermon of Jesus as recorded in Matthew 24 & 25, Mark 13 and Luke 21 and all of Revelation and the New Jerusalem symbolically took place by AD 70. Then you can spend another $50 to buy the 7th Day Adventist book which is just as ridiculous." Or what? What is our other option? To listen to you prophecy falsely over and over again. What happened to the Israel's attack on Iran that you predicted was coming prior to the 2012 election? :laugh: We're still waiting on that one, eh? http://www.christiandatingforfree.com/cdff/CDFF_generic/forum/forum_details.php?topic_id=16377&forum_sub_cat_id=14 The abominable ObamaNation boogeyman "false prophet of Revelation" is coming for all us. :laugh: or was that the abominable snowman? :laugh: :party::party: Now, it's a party folks. Oh, and what about Syria? :laugh: Should we talk about that one, too? http://www.christiandatingforfree.com/cdff/CDFF_generic/forum/forum_details.php?topic_id=18208&forum_sub_cat_id=14 WHAT CAN SAINTS EXPECT IN THE FIRST WEEK OF THE 1260-DAY GREAT TRIBULATION?? :angel::angel: Well, since this past back in the first century, I guess we can read the history books and find our answer, can we not? :laugh: Post Reply
View Profile History	Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches.....I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this Book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book {Including eternel hell}. And if anyone takes *WORDS AWAY* {Like Roman Catholic and Calvinistic Preterists} from this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The **NEW JERUSALEM**}, which are described in this Book.!!" Posted : 17 Sep, 2013 12:28 PM The New Jerusaem is described in Revelation 21:9 to Revelation 22:5 which are the inspired Words of God! The New Jerusalem will be 12,000 stadia {which is about 1377 miles} long, high and wide as per Revelation 21:16. A stadia is 606 feet long which is the exact same length as the ancient Greek stadium. 606 feet times 12,000 equals 7,272,000 feet which is 1377 miles plus 1,440 feet. A mile is exactly 5,280 feet. {1377 times 5,280 feet equal 7,270,560 feet.} And so the New Jerusalem will be exactly 1377 miles plus 1,440 feet long, wide and high!! Revelation 21:9-12,15-16,19,23,27; Revelation 22:1-6: The angel said to John, �Come, I will show you the Bride the Wife of the Lamb.� And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of Heaven from from God It shone like the glory of God, and its brilliance was like that of a very precious jewel. It had a great high wall {1377 miles plus 1,440 feet HIGH!} with 12 gates, and with 12 angels at the gates. The angel who talked with me had a measuring rod of gold to measure the City, its gates and its walls. The City was laid out like a square, as long as it was wide. He measured the City with the rod and found it to be 12,000 stadia {A Stadia is exactly 606 feet} in length, and as wide and high as it is long. {1377 miles plus 1,440 feet long, wide and high} The wall was made of Jasper, and the City of pure gold, as pure as glass. The foundations of the city walls were decorated with every kind of precious stone....... The great street of the City was of pure gold, like transparent glass...... Only those written in the Lamb's Book of Life will be able to enter the New Jerusalem! Then the angel showed me the river of the Water of Life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and the Lamb {Jesus} down the middle of the great street of the City. On each side of the river stood the Tree of Life, bearing 12 crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month... The throne of God and of the Lamb will be in the City, and his servants will serve Him. They will see His face and His name will be on their foreheads. There will be no more night!! They will not need the light of the lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign for ever and ever. The angel said to me, �These words are TRUSTWORTHY and TRUE!!� Dr Gentry will tell you the New Jerusalem is a symbolic fairy tale. JESUS WILL WRITE ON US THE NAME OF THE CITY OF GOD THE *NEW JERUSALEM*!! Revelation 2:18; 3:12,21: Jesus says, "To him who overcomes I will give him a white stone with a new name written on it, known only to him who receives it...And I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will he leave it. I will write on him the name of the City of My God, the NEW JERUSALEM, which is coming down out of heaven from My God....And I will give the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne." According to Revelation 22:3 the only 2 thrones in the New Jerusalem will be the thrones of the Father and of the Lamb Jesus Christ. :angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel: Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches.....I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this Book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book {Including eternel hell}. And if anyone takes *WORDS AWAY* {Like Roman Catholic and Calvinistic Preterists} from this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The **NEW JERUSALEM**}, which are described in this Book.!!" Posted : 17 Sep, 2013 12:52 PM Well yes, it was freely offered because it is free. That is a VERY small price to pay for a man's opinion, and therefore, no hypocrisy in my statement. And I'm sure Amazingfacts doesn't use the label "SDA" because there is a lot of confusion out there about what "SDA" is. I could go on for quite awhile about how denominationalism is a ploy of Satan, but I won't. Act 28:22 But we desire to hear of thee what thou thinkest: for as concerning this sect, we know that every where it is spoken against. Act 24:5 For we have found this man a pestilent fellow, and a mover of sedition among all the Jews throughout the world, and a ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes: And at the core, what you're doing is an ad hominem attack, strictly discounting the man because of a label, and not evidence against what he is saying. If you're brave enough, go thru that lesson and show me where he is incorrect. :peace::peace: Post Reply
View Profile History	Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches.....I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this Book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book {Including eternel hell}. And if anyone takes *WORDS AWAY* {Like Roman Catholic and Calvinistic Preterists} from this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The **NEW JERUSALEM**}, which are described in this Book.!!" Posted : 17 Sep, 2013 12:59 PM Brave enough? :laugh: Mark, all one has to do is use a search engine to find out the extent of the SDA error. There are plenty of folks who have constructed entire websites debunking what the SDA promotes. I don't have the time nor the inclination to do that when the material exists out there in spades already. Anyone who understand the Biblical truth can immediately spot the errors on websites such as the one that you have promoted. If they cannot spot the error for themselves, then shame on them. Anyone who wants to do an honest appraisal of the SDA cult is free to do so on their own just as I have. If people want to accept SDA, Jehovah's Witness, Mormonism, Scientology, or any other cult as brothers in Christ they are free to do so. I choose not to do so. Post Reply

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