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Election-Salvation-Reademtion-Holy-Predestination-Grace-and the Will of YHWH
Posted : 7 Dec, 2011 11:10 PM

Hello everyone:



In the following verses from Ephesians chapter 1:1-7.

Could someone please show me where mans so-called 'FREE WILL' and or 'Mans FAITH' is involved with YHWH having chosen His own unto Salvation,and Holiness in Yeshua.



I have included the 'CONTEXT'



Copied and pasted from the Literal Translation and from Youngs Literal Translation.





Literal Translation:



Eph 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God, to the saints being in Ephesus and faithful in Christ Jesus:

Eph 1:2 Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Eph 1:3 Blessed is the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenlies with Christ,

Eph 1:4 even as He elected us in Him before the foundation of the world, for us to be holy and without blemish before Him in love,

Eph 1:5 predestinating us to adoption through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,

Eph 1:6 to the praise of the glory of His grace in which He favored us in the One having been loved,

Eph 1:7 in whom we have redemption through His blood, the remission of deviations, according to the riches of His grace.







Youngs Literal Tranlation:



Eph 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God, to the saints who are in Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:

Eph 1:2 Grace to you, and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ!

Eph 1:3 Blessed is the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who did bless us in every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ,

Eph 1:4 according as He did choose us in him before the foundation of the world, for our being holy and unblemished before Him, in love,

Eph 1:5 having foreordained us to the adoption of sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,

Eph 1:6 to the praise of the glory of His grace, in which He did make us accepted in the beloved,

Eph 1:7 in whom we have the redemption through his blood, the remission of the trespasses, according to the riches of His grace,

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Posted : 8 Dec, 2011 11:08 AM

Yep Jude;

I still love you.



Shalom

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Posted : 8 Dec, 2011 11:34 AM

Btw The way George Here is your Revvy what you posted is the father's faith speaking.



What you omit is man's faith speaking, it is very simple.

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Posted : 8 Dec, 2011 12:35 PM

Jesus does more than simply save people from the penalty of past transgression; He frees men and women from sin's power every day. When Christ was on the cross, God saw each believer crucified with Him so that sin's allure was broken. That means we can say no to those things what enslave others. The gospel message we are called to proclaim frees others and teaches victorious living.



Your Faith and free will to choose Christ as you personal savior. We Believers= Elect.



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