Thread: really eill someone lplease give me their opinion on this subject? I am convined we will not actuly be getting a mansion as we think of them, but the word mansion is represintitive of our new bodies! I mean what would I need with a big ole house in heaven I just want to be with Jesus I dont care one thing about a mansion!
really eill someone lplease give me their opinion on this subject? I am convined we will not actuly be getting a mansion as we think of them, but the word mansion is represintitive of our new bodies! I mean what would I need with a big ole house in heaven I just want to be with Jesus I dont care one thing about a mansion!
Posted : 5 Jan, 2012 08:54 PM
Are the "mansions" Jesus is preparing for us actual buildings in which we will dwell while in heaven?
Jesus indicated that He would be leaving to go prepare a "mansion" for each of those who believe in Him. Do you think these "mansions" are literal buildings in heaven that we eventually will live in, or something else?
Here is how that passage is quoted in the King James version of the Bible:
In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. (John 14:2,3�KJV)
People generally conceive of a "mansion" as a giant home, in which is located everything we ever could want or need. Ideally, it would be a place of ultimate contentment and fulfillment. Many people actually spend years�or sometimes the rest of their lives�in their mansions without ever leaving them.
If the "mansions" of which Jesus spoke are physical structures, then it might seem, to some, that all the believers who have died are dwelling in them right now in heaven. And it also might seem that those who are resurrected and/or caught up at the Rapture event would be dwelling in them, in heaven, through the remainder of the 70th Week, until the second advent of Jesus back to earth.
However, Jesus indicated that wherever He is, we would be in the "place" He has prepared for each of us. After He returns back to earth, to rule and reign, then how could we be in our "mansions" in heaven if He is on the earth, yet we are to be wherever He is? I do not believe that our "mansions" are great big physical structures, which will be brought to earth when we return with Him from heaven, at His second advent. I believe that they are "heavenly" only in the sense that they have been (or will be) manufactured in heaven and will be located in heaven until He appears in the clouds.
Now consider the following description by Paul:
Now we know that if the earthly tent we live in is destroyed, we have a building from God, an eternal house in heaven, not built by human hands. Meanwhile we groan, longing to be clothed with our heavenly dwelling, because when we are clothed, we will not be found naked. For while we are in this tent, we groan and are burdened, because we do not wish to be unclothed but to be clothed with our heavenly dwelling, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life. (2 Corinthians 5:1-4)
This seems to indicate that each of us actually will be clothed with our own "eternal house" or "heavenly dwelling," which now is in heaven, but which Jesus will bring with Him when He comes in the clouds. It will not be a structure that we will enter and exit as we would a building, such as the home in which we live here on earth. Rather, it will be something that will be with us all the time.
In the same passage, Paul also spoke of an "earthly tent" in which we presently live. He noted that after it is destroyed, then we will have a "building" from God, our "eternal house." What, then, could our "earthly tents" be other than our bodies of flesh and bones, within which our spirits and souls presently dwell? Do not our physical bodies clothe our spirits and souls? I believe they do.
Describing what will occur at the Rapture event, Paul wrote,
For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: "Death has been swallowed up in victory." (1 Corinthians 15:52b-54)
I believe that the "eternal house" of a believer will be the glorified, imperishable, immortal body which will "clothe" the believer's spirit and soul for eternity. A believer's present "body of death" (Romans 7:24b), indeed, will be transformed into, or "swallowed up" by (1 Corinthians 15:54; 2 Corinthians 5:4), his/her resurrection body (1 Corinthians 15:42-44). That everlasting body will be at least as much superior to a physical, earthly body as a mansion is greater than a tent. It will be a perfect, glorious body, made in heaven, with which each of us will be clothed, and in which we will dwell, happily serving God eternally.
really eill someone lplease give me their opinion on this subject? I am convined we will not actuly be getting a mansion as we think of them, but the word mansion is represintitive of our new bodies! I mean what would I need with a big ole house in heaven I just want to be with Jesus I dont care one thing about a mansion!
Posted : 6 Jan, 2012 03:17 PM
Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father�s house:
For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they
also come into this place of torment. LUKE: 16: 27-28
NOTE: JESUS WAS NOT REFERRING TO THE MAN'S PHYISCAL BODY, BUT RATHER A PHYSICAL PLACE
And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father�s house an house of merchandise. NOTE : JESUS WAS NOT REFERRING TO GOD'S SPIRITUAL BODY, BUT RATHER A PHYSICAL PLACE
In my Father�s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. NOTE: JESUS WAS NOT REFERRING TO GOD'S SPIRITUAL BODY HERE AS WELL, BUT RATHER A SPIRITUAL PLACE
In which time Moses was born, and was exceeding fair, and
nourished up in his father�s house three months: ACTS 7:20
NOTE: STEPHEN WAS NOT REFERRING TO MOSES' PHYICAL BODY, BUT RATHER A PHYSICAL PLACE
By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.
By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange
country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs
with him of the same promise:
For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God. HEBREWS 11: 8-10
These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.
For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a
country. And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned.
But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly:
wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath
really eill someone lplease give me their opinion on this subject? I am convined we will not actuly be getting a mansion as we think of them, but the word mansion is represintitive of our new bodies! I mean what would I need with a big ole house in heaven I just want to be with Jesus I dont care one thing about a mansion!
Posted : 6 Jan, 2012 06:47 PM
yeah he did say he was going to his father house but is our mansion gonna be inside his fathers house? that does not make sence! Can you ignore all the scripture that calls the body a house? Either is possible I am convinced either one is possible,just because you are convinced of one way of seeing it doesnt mean thats the way it is! Thee is no way to know for sure becaue the Lord Jesus alled a house a house, but he also called a body a house, he also called the temple his fathers house butthen called his ody a temple that makes them all 3 inthe same body,house and temple all the same thing , why do yall want a mansion? I dont even care about one this is why I started looking into this sunject!
I just would think it would be obviouse it is to me, that it is possible and very likely, Jesus said in his fathes house was many mansions, thats heaven no doubt about that! So thats really beside the point as it could go either way with that, house simply meeans dwelling place, did paul not refer to thgese earthly bodies as tents? good goobedy goo! people get hteri mind stuck on something they are never willing to unstick it! at least admit it is possible that he meant our new bodies since he compared or referd to houses so many times when he wa speaking of bodies1 just because its a city doesnt mean we have to have macsions!
