Thread: If you had consensual relations, then you got hitched! You signed the contract in the Eyes of Elohim, by acceptance of, and the partaking of, the fruit of marriage.
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If you had consensual relations, then you got hitched! You signed the contract in the Eyes of Elohim, by acceptance of, and the partaking of, the fruit of marriage.
Posted : 23 Aug, 2012 12:48 PM
"What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh." [I Corinthians 6:16]
Just as it was then, so it is now; there are a lot of people in the world who do not comprehend that marriage is not the signing of a piece of paper, but the partaking of the fruit of the marriage bed [consensual relations/intercourse].
Here is the Torah on a man taking a wife, the very scripture passage Shaul/Paul is referring to:
"And if a man entice a maid that is not betrothed, and lie with her, he shall surely endow her to be his wife." [Exodus 22:16]
Notice that the Father did not say, "Oh, I think you need a piece of paper signed by the both of you, and notarized for you to be married in My Eyes".
If a man lay with a woman, and a woman lay with a man, knowingly, voluntarily, and willingly, they are married in His Eyes. Those three components are what constitutes a binding agreement, in heaven and on earth.
Historically according to the ways of man, there are three ways a man and woman may enter into the marital union, with the Father it is more stricter than that.
Here are the three ways traditionally acceptable to man.
1) The Perutah
2) The Ketubah
3) Consensual Union/Intercourse
The Perutah was an ancient custom where a man would publicly offer a small coin [a perutah], and hand it to a woman. If she accepted, and received the coin [today's ring] then they were married, contract closed.
The Ketubah was identical, except that it surrounded a written contract called a Ketubah. The Ketubah contained the "rights" a woman could expect, including property right, and what she could expect from the marriage.
Consensual Relations/Intercourse, that closed the deal instantly!
With the Father, it gets much more serious, and can occur with a look [if you are undressing her men], a promise [to get her to acquiesce and lay with you], and definitely with both partaking of the fruits of the union that is being acted upon in His Eyes.
KNOWINGLY, occurs, when you willingly entertain, without ceasing, the possibility of engaging in consensual union.
VOLUNTARILY, occurs when you both are knowingly and willingly engaging in communications that are of this mature subject matter.
WILLINGLY, occurs when you knowingly and vuluntarily remove your clothes and partake of the marriage bed.
Consider this. Let's say that you go into a store and buy a box of chocolates, and are looking at the box, saying to yourself, "I may not be able to afford this box of chocalates!" You stand there and think, "Should I eat a piece or not?" Before you eat a piece, you can possibly return that box of chocolate, if it has not been opened, and you have not partaken of the fruits of that contract. But the moment you unwrap that box, and dig into the candies, you just became the undisputed owner of that box of candies.
The same thing goes for a man and woman. If you unwrap that candy and dig in, it is all over. That is your box of candy from now on!
Abba YaHUaH (YHUH) considers a man and woman, partaking of the fruits of the marriage, to be joined at the hip. If you unwrap it, and really even if you merely think in your heart of unwrapping it, then you already are married, and need to go on with life, for it is a done deal.
Here is Yahusha/Jesus telling you of how easy it is to commit adultery; the same intent of the heart applies to marriage:
"Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart." [Mattityahu/Matthew 5:27-28]
Pray that Elohim set a guard on your eyes, cause you to walk in wisdom when you speak, and cause you to never take the consensual act of marriage lightly!
"Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge." [Ha-Ibrim/Hebrews 13:4]
If you had consensual relations, then you got hitched! You signed the contract in the Eyes of Elohim, by acceptance of, and the partaking of, the fruit of marriage.
Posted : 24 Aug, 2012 07:48 PM
You never said what the verses are actually supposed to say. God you tell me what they mean?
If you had consensual relations, then you got hitched! You signed the contract in the Eyes of Elohim, by acceptance of, and the partaking of, the fruit of marriage.
Posted : 24 Aug, 2012 07:58 PM
Some how my last post was destroyed.
If you men will read my comments, which survived, it was regarding WIFE not being an original word..
If you had consensual relations, then you got hitched! You signed the contract in the Eyes of Elohim, by acceptance of, and the partaking of, the fruit of marriage.
Posted : 24 Aug, 2012 08:29 PM
Maybe I'm a little slow, but you have spoken of the wife in several of your posts. What is the proper interpretation of the verses that use "wife"?
If you had consensual relations, then you got hitched! You signed the contract in the Eyes of Elohim, by acceptance of, and the partaking of, the fruit of marriage.
Posted : 26 Aug, 2012 03:03 PM
GraceUndeserved wrotes:
"Maybe I'm a little slow, but you have spoken of the wife in several of your posts. What is the proper interpretation of the verses that use "wife"?
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If I had written using the original Greek word "gunaika" you would not for one second figured out that I was referring to "woman".
The scripture was written like this by Abba YaHUaH (YHUH), so that these spawn of darkness would be recognized, as having stolen His law, and of their having replaced it with these Babylonian codes, which enrich the men who wield the "system":
"Shall the throne of iniquity have fellowship with thee, which frameth mischief by a law?" [Tehillim/Psalms 94:20]
This was done by the Father, to set up Satan and his seed, so that you would know that these men in Judaism and Christianity are deceivers, who use the writings of the true Yisra'el, the bachiyr and eklektos, to control men.
These documents [the Old and New Testaments] in their original form were written to set men free, not to enslave them to a "merchant code", which jacks you up and hooks you up to a fictional system controlled by numbers [bankers] and "policy machinery" [lawyers].
They are beating the brakes off of you intellectually, to rob you financially, and destroy you spiritually [they think]! But it has all been turned around, before time began, and they lose in the end [See Tehillim/Psalms 73]..
THE "GOVERNMENT" [though the word did not exist then] AT JERUSALEM KILLED THE MESSIAH: SATAN'S SEED WERE PROTECTING THEIR KINGDOM AND BABYLONIAN SLAVERY
This is why Yahusha/Jesus clashed with them at Jerusalem, when He went to the Temple to speak on the Law of Moses.
The United States Capital is called "THE TEMPLE OF LIBERTY" after the order of the ancient temples.
What was the "SANHEDRIN" in Jerusalem, is the "United States Congress", and other bicameral congresses throughout the world.
What were the "PHARISEES" in Jerusalem, is today the "United States Senate", and other chambers of "lawyers" functioning after the fashion of the ancient Sumerian bicameralism, with the bankers in the "HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES" [but you are to never figure this out, for the names have been changed, and the methodology and constructs of governance modified so that you will not see it or comprehend it].
You live in neo-Babylonia! Wake Up!
"THERE IS NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN"...?
There was no word "WIFE" in either the Ha-Ibri [the original term for "Hebrew"] or Greek!
What was there in the original Ha-Ibri and Greek is the words for "woman" [isha (H) & gunaika (G)], and the knowledge of how you, as a man, are to deal with "a woman" in life, based upon Abba's law. The Babylonians mixed to two together, and out came "WIFE" and a set of laws connected to financial codes, which enriched the men of dark cunning which oversee "the law".
This is why I keep referring to the law, the Torah, as providing the supporting moral knowledge that commands you, as a man [ish], not "husband", on how you are to deal with a "woman".
"And if a man [ish] entice a maid that is not betrothed, and lie with her, he shall surely endow her to be his wife (woman - isha). [Exodus 22:16]
JUDAISM is a neo-Babylonian construct, so is CHRISTIANITY. These are word/terms controlled by the government system.
JUDAISM and CHRISTIANITY are the 2nd Beast of Revelation 13: "And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon."
Why is it a beast? There are two beasts associated with Revelation 13: "COMING OUT OF THE SEA" and "COMING OUT OF THE EARTH".
"COMING OUT OF THE SEA" is the 1st beast connected with the first great system of corporation, which began in Babylon [called "harannu"] and through Maritime Trading and Shipping, this beast lasted for thousands of years. The term associated with the 2nd Beast, "COMING OUT OF THE EARTH" deals with the system of corporations which began largely when coal, and oil and natural gas, and uranium, all out of the earth began. The USA dominates the latter throughout the world.
The United States Government, which tells you that you are free to worship, has a list of [ONLY] 26 acceptable symbols for a soldier to be buried under at Arlington National Cemetery, and you cannot be buried under another, even if you choose.. WHY?
Because the government only recognizes what they respectually control, and what they cannot control they kill it!
You have to remember that it was the "government" in Jerusalem, which collided with the Natzarim, or "watchmen" from Natzrat [Nazareth].
Shaul or Paul, you have to remember, was arrested by the government in Jerusalem, because he refused to accept the "Authorized Version" of the Ha-Ibri [or Hebrew] scriptures, which of course had been mangled to serve the government:
"For we have found this man a pestilent fellow, and a mover of sedition among all the Jews throughout the world, and a ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes [NATZARIM or NATSARIM]:" [Ma'asey/Acts 24:5]
Shaul/Paul was a LAWYER [of the U.S. Senate] in Jerusalam, who turned on the Seed of Darkness, and they executed him with the aid of NATO [Rome] in 68-70 AD outside of Rome on the Appian Way.
SPECIAL NOTE: The Natzarim have been so hated by the P'rushim [Pharisees] and the followers of the Pharisaic halakha [Jewish Law], ever since the writing of the letters which led to the B�rit Chadashah/New Testament, that their sect's adherents are bound by Jewish ritual to stand three times a day, morning at dawn, than again at midday, and then toward evening, and curse the Natzarim during their daily prayers? They say three times a day, "Elohim, curse the Natzarim".
Then the Neo-Babylonians, in the form of the fictional "Jews" [See THE INVENTION OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE, by Shlomo Sands - a professor from Israel eretz]] who were the bankers in the Norman invasion of England in 1066, finally were able to persuade a king, "JAMES", of England/Angland, to rewrite the New Testament, which was causing such a stir for governments and kingdoms [of crooks and theives] worldwide, to insert the word/term "GOVERNMENT" into the 1611 Government Authorized Version, aka "The King James Version", to deceive men.
This is why Michael Servetus was murdered by hypocrite Jean Cauvin, aka "John Calvin". Calvin, who had authored "THE INSTITUTES OF THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION", to make some money, had been engaged in correspondence with Servetus, who had questioned the iron fisted theology of "the Pope of Geneva", even sending his a copy of his scholarly book, Errors of the Trinity, which was a frontal attack against the Catholic and Protestant doctrines of infant baptism and the doctrine of the trinity. Servetus then sent Calvin a copy of his 800-page "The Restoration of Christianity", and questioned the accuracy of Calvin's Institutes [I was once a Calvinist, by the way], and Calvin personally took over the prosecution of Servetus, during his trial, assuring him of his death [which in any modern court would be viewed as a Conflict of Interest for his personal involvement with Servetus]. Calvin had promised seven years earlier that he would kill Servetus, if he ever came to Calvin's New Jerusalem:
"If he [Michael Servetus] comes [to Geneva], I shall never let him go out alive if my authority has weight."
[John Calvin in a letter to Farel Feb. 13, 1546]
Calvinism is federalism, which is why John D. Rockefeller, one of the greatest financial criminals the world has ever seen, was a Calvinist.
What is hypocritical, is that it was the Catholic Church's doctrines on using the notion of someone being rescued from hell, by the sale of "Indulgences", coupled with their conduct of burning anyone to death who dared to disagree with their heretical doctrines and earthly kingdoms, which caused the reformation and the "protestants" to emerge in the first place. Geneva, which was alleged to be a protestant haven, then began burning people to death, under Calvin, for the sake of control.
During the first five years of Calvin's dictatorial reign of terror, in his New Jerusalem, thirteen people were hanged, ten were beheaded, thirty-five were burned at the stake, and seventy-six were expelled and banned from the city.
Now, today we have men of the government once again making money off of the things of Elohim. Abba YaHUaH (YHUH) wrote in His Law, that if a man lay with a maid and engage in consensual relations with her that they were to be betrothed, because they had become ONE FLESH, and now the Luciferians of government telling men that it is "permissive sex":
"And if a man entice a maid that is not betrothed, and lie with her, he shall surely endow her to be his wife." [Exodus 22:16]
Now, who are you going to believe and obey? The Word [Law] of Abba YaHUaH (YHUH) or men of "government" who want men to think that "a marriage contract" of Babylonian origin, holds more weight than His Torah?
What the neo-Babylonians, who control your life, have done is to rewrite the scripture, so that their modern Anglish construct "WIFE" fits the Babylonian and Roman merchant codes, which now govern your lives.
This is why Christianity and Judaism are attached to the neo-Babylonian system, which the Book of Revlation tells you is shortly coming to an end. [See Revelation 18]
Why would Christians be engaging in a system which Abba YaHUaH (YHUH) hates and promises will soon come to an end? Why would these {god-feaing} people be engaging in a system connected to Satan, in the first place?
This is why government now teaches you that you are to come to them, as your masters, to get their permission to "marry".
Did you know that according to Webster's and Black's Law Dictionary, that the term "license" means:
"permission granted by a competant authority to engage in a business or occupation, or in an act which would otherwise be unlawful"?
Who are these snakes to tell men that they are not permitted to marry, when Elohim told man, "Be fruitful and multiply the earth"?
Judaism with the assistance of Christianity, both fictions associated with Babylon [See Revelation 18], are the very system described in Revelation, which Abba YaHUaH (YHUH) despises. Their fictional temples are part of the economic system described in Revelation, and in particularly Revelation 18:
"And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities. Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double. How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow. Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her. And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning, Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.
And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more: The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble, And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men. And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all. The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing, 16And saying, Alas, alas, that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls! For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off, And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city! And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas, that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate. Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her." [Hhazon/Revelation 18:1-20]
This taking over of the creature and creation is the very meaning of "antichrist"...
Anti in the original Greek, was never translated, it was taken straight across, which is why you see the word "antichrist". The Greek word actually means "in stead of" or "in place of".
Maybe this will help you to comprehend why both Judaism and Christianity are involved in the creation of "The Affordable Choices Health Act - 2009", also known as "H.R. 3200, which states that starting in 2013, a chip is to be implanted into every man, woman, and child throughout the world. Please read the Health Care Bill, pages 1000 and 1001, and see for yourself, how Christianity and Judaism are leading the charge to implant every man, woman, and child on earth:
"And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name." [Hhazon/Revelation 13:16]
Soon, you will not be able to buy or sell anything, or obtain access to records of neo-Babylon, or enter into your home, or do anything which presently requires "IDENTIFICATION" unless you bow to the system of corporatism and Babylon's Banksters! Luciferian George W. Bush passed the "REAL ID ACT - 2005" which requires all identification to be digital, tying your identification to the chip!
If you had consensual relations, then you got hitched! You signed the contract in the Eyes of Elohim, by acceptance of, and the partaking of, the fruit of marriage.
Posted : 26 Aug, 2012 06:41 PM
Natzarim...
"This is why government now teaches you that you are to come to them, as your masters, to get their permission to "marry".
(Romans 13:1-14)
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. ...
"Who are these snakes to tell men that they are not permitted to marry........"
(Romans 12:17-19)
Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to DO what is HONORABLE IN THE SIGHT OF ALL. If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all. Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, �Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.�
We are to set an EXAMPLE, and so I do not constitute this as something evil when marriage is concerned.
"Who are these snakes to tell men that they are not permitted to marry, when Elohim told man, "Be fruitful and multiply the earth"?"
Who STOPS someone from being married? Who said that? Who are you talking about? What does that possibly have to do with "Be fruitful and multiply the earth" ?
And everything else you mentioned it diverts from the topic at hand.
Not trying to MOCK you or anything, but being a person who delights in MEANINGFUL debates, who have been taught the basics of it, watched it, and been apart of a few, YOU NEED TO START ANOTHER THREAD if in fact you cannot STICK TO THE SUBJECT AT HAND.
I was told that it is important to do so because you do not want to be deemed/dismissed as an INCONSISTENT RAMBLER"
LASTLY... most of what you mentioned about Apocalypse is TRUE and I do agree that the GOVERNMENT is one of that beast, but for you to flat out say that CHRISTIANITY is apart of it is YOUR assumption and YOURS alone. NO ONE knows for SURE about the book of revelations. We just have an idea.
You know why?????
(Deuteronomy 29:29) The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may follow all the words of this law.
Might as well say "ALL CHRISTIANS ARE GOING TO HELL!
I PERSONALLY WON'T GO THROWING JUDGEMENT ON ANYONE. UNLESS YOU THINK YOU'RE JEHOV�.
JUST LIKE G-D HAS HIS COVENANT WITH THE JEWS, HE HAS IT WITH THE GENTILES (who believe in Yeshua).
WHY??
because by grace we were saved.
DIFFERENT BUT WITH ONE PURPOSE... A NEW JERUSALEM.
That is the problem that SOME untrained Jews have... SO QUICK TO THROW JUDGEMENT, then other's feel put of hence a BIG TERRITORIAL ARGUMENT OVER THE GOD OF HOST.
If you had consensual relations, then you got hitched! You signed the contract in the Eyes of Elohim, by acceptance of, and the partaking of, the fruit of marriage.
Posted : 26 Aug, 2012 06:48 PM
GraceUndeserved...
"And yes the two becoming one is speaking of marriage, but that is what we are talking about. Scripture says he will leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife (woman) and those two shall become one. There is no hint of polygamy there
................. Again, Polygamy in my opinion was one of those things that God allowed due to sin. You never responded to that issue."
If you had consensual relations, then you got hitched! You signed the contract in the Eyes of Elohim, by acceptance of, and the partaking of, the fruit of marriage.
Posted : 26 Aug, 2012 08:42 PM
Naz....I appreciate all of that. However you had already made your point that the word "wife" is nowhere in scripture. That's a non issue though because the concept of a wife is there.
If you had consensual relations, then you got hitched! You signed the contract in the Eyes of Elohim, by acceptance of, and the partaking of, the fruit of marriage.
If you had consensual relations, then you got hitched! You signed the contract in the Eyes of Elohim, by acceptance of, and the partaking of, the fruit of marriage.
Posted : 27 Aug, 2012 02:37 PM
Please go to Yeshayahu/Isaiah 4:1
"And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach."
Yeshayahu is not speaking of "tomorrow", when he gets up, nor can it be said that he referring to the earlier days of the creation when men ruled and women were truly treated as "second class citizens", because he is using a future tense term "THAT DAY" which refers to another Day in the future.
What does Yeshayahu mean, when he uses the term "IN THAT DAY"..?
We need to go to the B'rit Hadasha [New Testament] to get the answer.
Ever since Adam ate of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, and did not die, men have thought that the Torah was stupid and worthless, for how can YaHUaH (YHUH) tell Adam, "in the day you eat of the tree, you shall die", and have it mean anything, especially after a 24 hour period had passed, and all know that Adam did not die?
Adam lived to be 930 years old, before he died, and so men count it, that "the Bereshit/Genesis account must be made up and absurd, because Adam clearly did not die with 24 hours.
This is why Peter teaches, pointing out that those who had thought that the Torah was goofy, and that "the promise of G-d was worthless, had not comprehended the spiritual mystery associated with the term that Elohim used with Adam, "a day". Here he explains what Abba was referring to, and that it was not a 24 hours period, but that it was a 1,000 year period:
"But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day"."[2 Petros/Peter 3:8]:
Notice how Peter teaches men of the prophetic mystery surrounding what Abba was saying to Adam, knowing that Adam, was going to eat of the Tree, but not die in "a 24 hour period, as men had thought He meant, but which was pointing to the New Testament period, when Peter would explain why Abba had said this. The writer of the Bereshit/Genesis account which records the first half of this mystery, is Moses, who is one of the "bachiyr"; but the mystery would not be comprehended until the New Testament periosd, when Peter, one of the Natzarim, was to write of this mystery, proving to all, the link between the Old and New Covenants. This clearly proves that the Old Testament and the New are to be linked together.
Let's get back to the reason why Peter was explaining this mystery. It is because of what Yahusha/Jesus said to the disciples, when they asked "why do you speak to these men in parables?", and Yahusha/Jesus responded, "to you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given" [Mattityahu/Matthew 13:10-14]
"And in them [the Jews of Judaism] is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
"For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear. For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them." [Referring to Yeshayahu/Isaiah 6:10]
What Yahusha/Jesus is referring to, is the prophecy of Yeshayahu/Isaiah 6:10 and how it related to Judaism.
This proves that what the Natzarim were teaching in Jerusalem, about the Messiah and "natsar" meaning "root" and not branch [Yeshayahu 11:1] was what Yeshayahu was referring to, was true, and that those who were dominating the physical government of Jerusalem - called "Judaism", were hypocrites and pretenders who lied and usurped the scriptures to manipulate the people, and did not and do not know the truth, because they are the 1/2 part of Abraham's seed, of the Hebrew race, which were to reject the Torah, and not comprehend it.
Yeshayahu was not "a Jew", because he was of the tribe of Yudah/Judah, and he had nothing to do with Judaism, but a prophet of the "bachiyr", writing to the "eklektos", and especially Peter, who was to come. Only Peter could unlock the mystery of the sum of time regarding Yeshayahu's prophecy of Chapter 4:1. This is why we see Shaul/Paul writing:
"Now all these things [which are written in the Torah] happened unto them [the backiyr] for ensamples: and they are written for our [the eklektos] admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come." [I Qorinti'im/Corinthians 10:11]
Yeshayahu lived 740-700BC, which when you factor in the 1,000 years, that would make it well past the beginning of the Christian period, into [at least] the 8th century AD. But that won't work, with trying to meet all of the criterion which is part of this prophecy.
Yeshayahu gives us a very important clue, as to what time period he is talking about. He states, that these seven women that will take hold of one man, will be able to control their own lives and lifestyles, and that definitely was not possible any where in the world until the Equal Rights Clause of the 14th Amendment and the Women's Suffrage movement of 19th to 20th centuries, when "Women's Liberation" began, which led to women finally being allowed to vote in 1920.
Read of Susan B. Anthony and the struggles she endured, and of how she was arrested for leading protests, and even had cases which went to the United States Supreme Court, when she was fined for trying to live her life as she saw fit, but was jailed and fined.
So there we have it, the key to Yeshayahu 4:1, and the time period Abba YaHUaH (YHUH) said through the Ruach Ha-Kodesh, was to come.
In closing,
It is interesting when you consider the verbiage of Yeshayahu 4:1, "in that day SEVEN WOMEN SHALL TAKE HOLD OF ONE MAN," that it indicates that the Father is going to cause these seven women to comprehend the role between men of Abba YaHUaH (YHUH) and David, Abraham, and others who comprehend the Abrahamic covenant, and seek to have that son, that anointed man to cover them.
These women of Yeshayahu 4:1 are obviously not approached by "the man", but are led of Abba's Ruach [Spirit] to recognize the value of demonstrating the Word of Torah and the Abrahamic covenant in their lives, and its sanctifying and cleansing effects upon their souls, which when obeyed, remove the reproach of the system in which we now live, for it is unclean, and always has been.
If you had consensual relations, then you got hitched! You signed the contract in the Eyes of Elohim, by acceptance of, and the partaking of, the fruit of marriage.