Author	Thread: A love letter to my family...
Admin	A love letter to my family... Posted : 6 Nov, 2012 12:43 AM As it often happens, blessings come when you least expect them. Tonight was one of those blessings. I found myself really sad at the dis-unity of this "Church", this is the best word for it I think. We are in a ministry of sorts, I like to think so anyway. Well as it turned out, I was approached this evening to do some "brain working" or "spirit working" by a beloved brother. There were a few concerns discussed, ideas exchanged, and as often happens, not much seemed to be accomplished. The key word being "seemed". One thing I've come to learn (albeit slowly) is that things don't always happen in "our time frame". Patience and long suffering seem to be an unavoidable fact of life (Christianity). I know I'm the type who likes to dive right in and solve an issue, fix a problem, "get 'r dun"! It rarely happens that way in real life though does it? One of my gripes with Christianity is the conflict, the dis-unity, the strife, etc. Everyone is right, and everyone is wrong. We're so quick to point fingers. We're so quick to kick someone when they are down instead of helping them up. We're just downright mean to each other. I don't like it. I don't think the Father and Son enjoy it either. I can't picture the agony Christ went through being honoured by our behaviour. He did not suffer for us to do this to each other. We need to pull together as a family. That IS what we are! Every person here, man or woman, who calls Christ Lord and King is my family. Granted, some of our family are weak, sick, likened to a terminal cancer patient, dying that spiritual death. I've been in that "terminal cancer ward" many years. Only now am I beginning to recover, and much slower than I'd like. Everyone here is at a different stage in their walk. Some are strong in the Lord, some are newly "weaned off milk", some are babes, and some haven't even been born (again) yet. I thought I was a strong shepherd type for many years. I was mistaken. At best I'm just now getting into the meat and potatos but I still need that milk from time to time. Pride and vanity held me back. I was (and still am to an extent) one of those "I'm right, you're wrong and going to hell" types. I'm trying to change that attitude. I need help, from all of you. I've met some truly beautiful people here. People who had virtually no scriptural knowledge or schooling by comparison, yet their level of humility and the Holy Spirit within them shamed me in the extreme. I thought I was "all that" yet I found I was nothing. As I am fond of saying..."humility is the beginning of righteousness." It truly is. I would like to see my family healed. Thinking about how far we've fallen makes me sad. Perhaps I'm too emotional, perhaps I'm just a big baby. Perhaps this situation is worth crying about. I may not agree with all of you on points of scripture or theology but you are my family. Loving some of you is very difficult at times. And I can imagine, for some of you, loving me can be trying as well. I'm just a simple fool who's trying to love my family the best way I know how. I'd like to share a couple movie clips that relate what I'm feeling, and maybe what some of you should be feeling as well. No, I'm not pointing fingers or singling anyone out. It's a sadness, but a good sadness. A Godly sorrow if you will. These are clips from Jesus of Nazareth. Yes, there is un-scriptural screenplay here, however, I ask all of you to look past this and see the power and beauty of the message portrayed. Please take 20 minutes of your day and watch this. I relate to Peter when he says "Forgive me Master, I'm just a stupid man." The scene at the end of the Parable of the Prodigal Son is very beautiful to me for I AM that stupid man. Cry with me. Cry for each other, cry for the Lord. Just cry. Jesus of Nazareth 10/28 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&NR=1&v=qH5gmRQLIIM Jesus of Nazareth 11/28 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y-Dqp00N_w&feature=fvwp&NR=1 Let's not make Christ's sacrifice in vain. Please, lets all work together for HIS GLORY. ><> Post Reply
View Profile History	A love letter to my family... Posted : 6 Nov, 2012 11:48 AM Must this continue? Passion of The Christ [HQ] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS_6TTDzpBA&feature=list_other&playnext=1&list=SPADC8A5263D21B757 Scroll forward to 50 minutes. Do you really want to take a whip and join in... Scroll forward to 1 hour and 30 minutes. ...grab a hammer and some nails...our Lord and King hasn't suffered enough yet! All I can do is cry watching these scenes. Learn to cry...please. Post Reply
View Profile History	A love letter to my family... Posted : 6 Nov, 2012 11:50 AM So one isn't passionate unless they cry when you tell them to? Do you know if Jesus' sacrifice makes me cry? Post Reply
View Profile History	A love letter to my family... Posted : 6 Nov, 2012 11:51 AM Should I repent from calling someone a false teacher? Post Reply
View Profile History	A love letter to my family... Posted : 6 Nov, 2012 12:04 PM Valde, I don't see a reason for the melodramatics. This is a thread that can be used to reason together or not. I am all for reasoning things through. Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	A love letter to my family... Posted : 6 Nov, 2012 12:49 PM Maybe we can start with a definition of a false teacher, and what LTM has done to warrant the accusation? We really only need one example, and then LTM can defend himself, and we can move from there. My personal definition would be someone who repeatedly and unjustifiably misinterprets and/or ignores scripture in direct contradiction to the weight of scripture, or teaches something that they themselves do not follow(hypocrisy). Basically, someone who has no biblical reason to believe what they're teaching. Such as "there is no resurrection", or "hell does not exist", or "Jesus was a created being". I'm open to other definitions, but I don't think the bible was any harsher than that. I hope we can come to a consensus before the discussion begins, within biblical framework of course. :peace::peace: Post Reply
View Profile History	A love letter to my family... Posted : 6 Nov, 2012 01:07 PM "My personal definition would be someone who repeatedly and unjustifiably misinterprets and/or ignores scripture in direct contradiction to the weight of scripture, or teaches something that they themselves do not follow(hypocrisy). " Using this definition, he is repeatedly guilty on all fronts. Proof is all over the pages. Post Reply
View Profile History	A love letter to my family... Posted : 6 Nov, 2012 01:18 PM I also think that some false teaching is more insidious than others. For example, if something distorts or perverts the very Gospel itself, it is far more dangerous than debating vegetarianism. Another issue to consider is what is the outcome or the fruit of the false teaching. Does it have the potential to derail a persons walk with Christ? I would argue that all of the false eschatology that has been promoted here of late does. It's retreat and defeat rather than advancement and victory. If people are wading through conspiracy theories day after day and being told to stock can goods and move to rural Montana before the Nephilim and the New World Order come for them and their kids.....I think that is dangerously unbiblical stuff. Post Reply
View Profile History	A love letter to my family... Posted : 6 Nov, 2012 01:33 PM Further, I think this whole notion that God's heart is just breaking over all the disunity or that God is crying and grieving while watching "all the fighting" is totally ludicrous and unbiblical as well. God is sovereign. We do not add or take away anything from him. These crazy ideas humanize God and steal from his sovereignty. They suggest that he has little or no control over everything and at all times. This gets right into the heart of the man's "free will" thing which a wholly blasphemous and errant set of doctrines. I could go on and on page after page describing the breath and depth of all the errors that I read here day after day. Disturbing to say the very least. Post Reply
View Profile History	A love letter to my family... Posted : 6 Nov, 2012 02:36 PM Thank you for the post ValdeMaero.."A love letter to my family"...It is done in Love and the LORD searches the heart of the people...and the motives of the heart...GOD Bless you...<><...xo Jer 17:10 I the LORD search the heart, [I] try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, [and] according to the fruit of his doings. 1 Pe 3:4 But [let it be] the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, [even the ornament] of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price. Mar 12:33 And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love [his] neighbour as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices. Post Reply
dljrn04 View Profile History	A love letter to my family... Posted : 6 Nov, 2012 03:11 PM One can call it love, but when truth is not present it is all in vain. Gods truth and love is all that matters. Post Reply

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