Author	Thread: The Christ of the Bible
dljrn04 View Profile History	The Christ of the Bible Posted : 1 Dec, 2012 02:16 AM The Bible warns us that in the last days in which we live there will be many false Christs�those who claim to be Christ but who are imposters. Jesus said, �Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying I am Christ; and shall deceive many.� (Matt. 24:4-5). We who profess to be Christians must take heed. We must be very careful that we are not deceived. Our calling is to trust, love, and follow the true Christ and Him only. We may have nothing to do with the false Christs who are so numerous in our day. We know about the Christ of the cults and other religions. He is a good man, a prophet, the first creation of God, a great spirit, a divine idea, or even a god himself. But he is not true and eternal God. He receives his existence from another who is greater than he. He is not the Christ of the Bible. We are not deceived by this Christ. He is a false Christ. We know about the Christ of Roman Catholicism. They profess that He is true God. He suffered and died for the forgiveness of sin. He arose again, ascended into heaven, and is coming again. But he is not a complete Savior. The Christ of the Roman Catholics can not save sinners without their own good works and the intercession of priests. He is not the Christ of the Bible. We are not deceived by this Christ. He is a false Christ. There is, however, another false Christ who is much more dangerous than the Christ of the cults and the Christ of Roman Catholicism. He has deceived people for many years and he continues to deceive millions. This Christ is so dangerous that, if it were not impossible, he would deceive the very elect (Matt. 24:24). He is the Christ of Arminianism. This false Christ is extremely dangerous because in many ways he appears to be the True Christ. They say that he is true God, equal with the Father and the Holy Spirit. They say that he died on the cross to save sinners. They even say that he saves by his grace alone, without the work of man. This Christ will have nothing to do with the Christ of the cults and the Christ of Roman Catholicism. But watch out! Be warned! The Christ of Arminianism is not the Christ of the Bible. Do not be fooled! 1. The Christ of Arminianism � loves every individual person in the world and sincerely desires their salvation. The Christ of the Bible � earnestly loves and desires the salvation of only those whom God has unconditionally chosen to salvation. (Ps. 5:5, Ps. 7:11, Ps. 11:5, Matt. 11:27, John 17:9-10, Acts 2:47, Acts 13:48, Rom. 9:10-13, Rom. 9:21-24, Eph. 1:3-4) 2. The Christ of Arminianism � offers salvation to every sinner and does all in his power to bring them to salvation. His offer and work are often frustrated, for many refuse to come. The Christ of the Bible � effectually calls to Himself only the elect and sovereignly brings them to salvation. Not one of them will be lost. (Isa. 55:11, John 5:21, John 6:37-40, John 10:25-30, John 17:2, Phil. 2:13) 3. The Christ of Arminianism � can not regenerate and save a sinner who does not first choose Christ with his own �free will.� All men have a �free will� by which they can either accept or reject Christ. That �free will� may not be violated by Christ. The Christ of the Bible � sovereignly regenerates the elect sinner apart from his choice, for without regeneration the spiritually dead sinner can not choose Christ. Faith is not man�s contribution to salvation but the gift of Christ which He sovereignly imparts in regeneration. (John 3:3, John 6:44 & 65, John 15:16, Acts 11:18, Rom. 9:16, Eph. 2:1,Eph. 2:8-10, Phil. 1:29, Hebr. 12:2) 4. The Christ of Arminianism � died on the cross for every individual person and thereby made it possible for every person to be saved. His death, apart from the choice of man, was not able to actually save anyone for many for whom he died are lost. The Christ of the Bible � died for only God�s elect people and thereby actually obtained salvation for all those for whom He died. His death was a substitutionary satisfaction which actually took away the guilt of His chosen people. (Luke 19:10, John 10:14-15 & 26, Acts 20:28, Rom. 5:10, Eph. 5:25, Hebr. 9:12, I Peter 3:18) 5. The Christ of Arminianism � loses many whom he has �saved� because they do not continue in faith. Even if he does give them �eternal security,� as some say, that security is not based upon his will or work but the choice which the sinner made when he accepted Christ. The Christ of the Bible � preserves His chosen people so that they can not lose their salvation but persevere in the faith to the very end. He preserves them by the sovereign electing will of God, the power of His death, and the mighty working of His Spirit. (John 5:24, John 10:26-29, Rom. 8:29-30, Rom. 8:35-39, I Peter 1:2-5, Jude 24-25) As you can see, although the Christ of Arminianism and the Christ of the Bible may at first seem to be the same, they are very different. One is a false Christ. The other is the true Christ. One is weak and helpless. He bows before the sovereign �free will� of man. The other is the reigning Lord Who wills what He pleases and sovereignly accomplishes all that He wills. If you believe and serve the Christ of Arminianism, you must recognize the fact that you do not serve the Christ of the Bible. You have been deceived! Study the Scriptures and learn of the True Christ. Pray for grace to repent and trust Christ as your sovereign Savior. Rev. Steven Houck Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	The Christ of the Bible Posted : 4 Dec, 2012 01:01 PM When does reformation stop? :peace::peace: Post Reply
dljrn04 View Profile History	The Christ of the Bible Posted : 4 Dec, 2012 01:05 PM For the first time ever i can agree with jude, i will never make anyone believe truth that is the work of the holy spirit. Amen and amen. I will continue to post truth till my redeemer comes to take me home. Self proclaiming christians are the hardest to witness Christ to, because they are so prideful, they have it all figured out.They don't need truth, or the Christ of the bible. They just have to love one another, and depend on their walk down the isle to save them. Post Reply
View Profile History	The Christ of the Bible Posted : 4 Dec, 2012 01:26 PM Donna shared ~ Self proclaiming christians are the hardest to witness Christ to, because they are so prideful, they have it all figured out. They don't need truth, or the Christ of the bible. They just have to love one another, and depend on their walk down the isle to save them. *** Yes...there are some people that profess to be Christian that really have no clue or understanding what it is to be a Chritian...Everyone needs Truth and not Everyone has it all figured out... However...I'm not talking about the Lost you so passionatly desire to bring into that underdstanding and relationship with Christ Jesus...I'm talking about the dilerberate BASH threads against those that do not believe as you do...Continually causing a Division....on Purpose....I call it School :boxing: Yard :boxing: Bullying...and it aint Christ Like at all...As far as your Opinions of those that you believe do not believe the Christ Jesus of the Bible...thats all it is...and you are intitled to it... Stay a Blessing to be a Blessing Yall...xo Post Reply
dljrn04 View Profile History	The Christ of the Bible Posted : 4 Dec, 2012 01:27 PM When does reformation stop? Well Mark thats an easy one, when the Shepard comes for his flock. Post Reply
dljrn04 View Profile History	The Christ of the Bible Posted : 4 Dec, 2012 01:34 PM However...I'm not talking about the Lost you so passionatly desire to bring into that underdstanding and relationship with Christ Jesus...I'm talking about the dilerberate BASH threads against those that do not believe as you do...Continually causing a Division....on Purpose....I call it School Yard Bullying...and it aint Christ Like at all...As far as your Opinions of those that you believe do not believe the Christ Jesus of the Bible...thats all it is...and you are intitled to it... ***This cracks me up.....you are the biggest bully in this playground, and turn around and call the others( Ryan and I bullies. :ROFL: Post Reply
dljrn04 View Profile History	The Christ of the Bible Posted : 4 Dec, 2012 01:36 PM Any hooo........has any of you who like to poke fun of the reformers even taken a moment and actually read this article and the scripture?????? Post Reply
View Profile History	The Christ of the Bible Posted : 4 Dec, 2012 02:00 PM Actually Jude this is quite hypocritical since you have ZERO problem telling me all the time that I don't get it. Also, when you get frustrated with the forum, you have a tendency to clog of the main page with several threads so that the threads you don't like will leave the first page. So who is the bully and who claims to know it all, just as much as the rest of us? Post Reply
View Profile History	The Christ of the Bible Posted : 4 Dec, 2012 02:02 PM LTM also always has ZERO problem telling me I don't get it. Yet it's cool for him to come here and start blaming me for doing such as if there is something inherently wrong with it. Jesus told a lot of people they didn't get it. What was wrong with what Jesus was doing? Next yall will tell me I'm not Jesus...and you will completely miss the point. Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	The Christ of the Bible Posted : 4 Dec, 2012 02:13 PM Ok, so would it be possible to say that the reformers need to be reformed? Or did God bring them into all truth when John Calvin reformed? I'm more of the belief that there has been a line of reformers since then, bring us all closer to the full understanding of scripture. :peace::peace: Post Reply
dljrn04 View Profile History	The Christ of the Bible Posted : 4 Dec, 2012 02:31 PM I have never bowed my knee to John Calvin, Martin Luther, Charles Zwigili, Martin Bucer, or any of the other great reformers. Calvin would be appalled at the label of Calvinism, he was a humble man of God who studied scripture day and night and prayed fervently. Period no more no less, he was a MAN who depended on the grace of God for his salvation. The reformation started in the 1600's by Martin Luther who read the bible and saw the heresies of the catholic church. It would do you well to study church history and the reformation. Post Reply

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