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Is Christmas about Christ?
Posted : 19 Jan, 2013 08:15 PM

Well, I will do my best but because I can't add links or videos I will post stuff and just say Google it.



First where did Christmas come from?

Well it was and still is a Pagan holy day as well as Wicca.



Santa is Yule and Yule like in Yule Log or Yule Tree or Yule Time is the god Yule the horned god, they would have 12 days of Yule and kill one person each day of Yule thats where we get 12 Days of Christmas.



Google it and you will see, The Church believed if they adopted that day they could win souls for GOD but they over looked that GOD had already warned us that it was wrong.



Jeremiah 10:1-25

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10 Hear ye the word which the Lord speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:



2 Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.



3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.



4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.



5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.



6 Forasmuch as there is none like unto thee, O Lord; thou art great, and thy name is great in might.



7 Who would not fear thee, O King of nations? for to thee doth it appertain: forasmuch as among all the wise men of the nations, and in all their kingdoms, there is none like unto thee.



8 But they are altogether brutish and foolish: the stock is a doctrine of vanities.



9 Silver spread into plates is brought from Tarshish, and gold from Uphaz, the work of the workman, and of the hands of the founder: blue and purple is their clothing: they are all the work of cunning men.



10 But the Lord is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king: at his wrath the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide his indignation.



11 Thus shall ye say unto them, The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, even they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens.



12 He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heavens by his discretion.



13 When he uttereth his voice, there is a multitude of waters in the heavens, and he causeth the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth; he maketh lightnings with rain, and bringeth forth the wind out of his treasures.



14 Every man is brutish in his knowledge: every founder is confounded by the graven image: for his molten image is falsehood, and there is no breath in them.



15 They are vanity, and the work of errors: in the time of their visitation they shall perish.



16 The portion of Jacob is not like them: for he is the former of all things; and Israel is the rod of his inheritance: The Lord of hosts is his name.



17 Gather up thy wares out of the land, O inhabitant of the fortress.



18 For thus saith the Lord, Behold, I will sling out the inhabitants of the land at this once, and will distress them, that they may find it so.



19 Woe is me for my hurt! my wound is grievous; but I said, Truly this is a grief, and I must bear it.



20 My tabernacle is spoiled, and all my cords are broken: my children are gone forth of me, and they are not: there is none to stretch forth my tent any more, and to set up my curtains.



21 For the pastors are become brutish, and have not sought the Lord: therefore they shall not prosper, and all their flocks shall be scattered.



22 Behold, the noise of the bruit is come, and a great commotion out of the north country, to make the cities of Judah desolate, and a den of dragons.



23 O Lord, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.



24 O Lord, correct me, but with judgment; not in thine anger, lest thou bring me to nothing.



25 Pour out thy fury upon the heathen that know thee not, and upon the families that call not on thy name: for they have eaten up Jacob, and devoured him, and consumed him, and have made his habitation desolate.

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Posted : 20 Jan, 2013 05:10 PM

It would be like saying the only day we can take communion and remember Christs sacrifice is on the actual day.







Yes the roots are in Pagan practice but the practice of Christian faimiles to remember christs birth and give glory to God on that day is wrong how?





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Everything about that day is the pagan god Yule, the holiday from start to end is not about Christ and never was about Christ if you read the top verse I posted you where know why. I can't post links or you are going to have to do your foot work is your soul worth it or nor, you keep taking part in that day and you will find out.

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Posted : 20 Jan, 2013 06:19 PM

So you dont listen. What is wrong with a family expressing honor and praise to God on that day?



You see I used to be like you narrow in my thinking and judgemental not really understanding the importantance of motives. Do you understand your own motives?



If not you have NO buiseness trying to teach.

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Posted : 20 Jan, 2013 07:26 PM

This is called a "genetic fallacy", and thank God He doesn't apply the same logic to us. Just because something comes from a questionable source does not make it evil. It completely depends on what is done with it and the motives behind it. Obviously, God believes in redeeming us, who were evil, and changing/using us for holy purposes. I don't know about you guys, but I'm pretty glad he doesn't cast us off simply because we were followers of Satan.



<< Romans 14 >>

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1Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations. 2For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. 3Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him. 4Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. 5One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. 6He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.



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Posted : 20 Jan, 2013 07:43 PM

So you dont listen. What is wrong with a family expressing honor and praise to God on that day?







You see I used to be like you narrow in my thinking and judgemental not really understanding the importantance of motives. Do you understand your own motives?







If not you have NO buiseness trying to teach.



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I am simply speaking Truth your soul is your to lose or too save,

you know that day is of Evil and if you knowingly still take part you will stand before GOD in HIS Judgment not mine..

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Posted : 20 Jan, 2013 07:47 PM

This is called a "genetic fallacy", and thank God He doesn't apply the same logic to us. Just because something comes from a questionable source does not make it evil. It completely depends on what is done with it and the motives behind it. Obviously, God believes in redeeming us, who were evil, and changing/using us for holy purposes. I don't know about you guys, but I'm pretty glad he doesn't cast us off simply because we were followers of Satan.







<< Romans 14 >>



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1Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations. 2For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. 3Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him. 4Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. 5One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. 6He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.







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Just because you think it means something it does not mean will not save you, your think is off and your soul will pay that Price.

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Posted : 21 Jan, 2013 05:22 AM

"Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations."

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Posted : 21 Jan, 2013 07:21 AM

Christmas is of satan and you can spin it all you want but if you don't open your eyes you will go to hell just because you worshiped Yule and not Christ and GOD you need to stop twisting stuff can't you see simple facts.



Everyone who hears this just Google it and you will see but if you don't you have yourselves to blame.

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Posted : 21 Jan, 2013 08:14 AM

I'm pretty sure no Christian was worshiping "Yule", I sure wasn't. The days belong to God. The fullness of the earth belongs to God. "Yule" does not exist. The "Yule log" is God's log first.



There is only one position in which I believe you could be right, but that is only if you consider yourself weak in the faith, and I doubt you think that. Even then, it would only be wrong because it may cause someone who is weak in the faith to stumble, either toward idolatry or condemnation of others(which is only God's job). You have condemned me to hell if I don't stop observing Christmas, so I guess I'll need to stop for your sake.



1 Corinthians 8:4-13

As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one. For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat it as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled. But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse. But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumbling block to them that are weak. For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols; And through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died? But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ. Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.



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Posted : 21 Jan, 2013 04:12 PM

Yepper.

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Posted : 21 Jan, 2013 07:14 PM

I'm pretty sure no Christian was worshiping "Yule", I sure wasn't. The days belong to God. The fullness of the earth belongs to God. "Yule" does not exist. The "Yule log" is God's log first.







There is only one position in which I believe you could be right, but that is only if you consider yourself weak in the faith, and I doubt you think that. Even then, it would only be wrong because it may cause someone who is weak in the faith to stumble, either toward idolatry or condemnation of others(which is only God's job). You have condemned me to hell if I don't stop observing Christmas, so I guess I'll need to stop for your sake.





A: Not for my sake but yours Sake and not by my word but by GOD'S WORD I tell this so you might hear but only you can change and Repent.

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