Thread: There is NO Biblical Support to the Calvinist Doctrine.... yada...yada...yada.!
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There is NO Biblical Support to the Calvinist Doctrine.... yada...yada...yada.!
Posted : 1 Oct, 2013 12:49 PM
Here is another FALSE claim coming straight from the mouth of an UNBELIEVER HERE: "There is no biblical support to your Calvinist doctrine, man before the new birth can not respond to the word of God.... bla bla bla... yada... yada....yada"
John 3: 3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he CANNOT see the kingdom of God. - CANNOT not will not. He CANNOT even see the Kingdom of God, let alone respond to it.
STATE IN WHICH THE NATURAL MAN IS BORN:
Psalm 51:5 --- in iniquity - in sin
Psalm 58:3 --- estranged from birth
SPIRITUAL STATE OF UNREGENERATE MAN:
Genesis 2:16-17 --- DEAD
Romans 5:12 ------- DEAD
Ephesians 2:1-3 ----DEAD "nekros� = corpse, dead, not just sick
Colossians 2:13 ---- DEAD
STATE OF NATURAL MAN�S HEART:
Genesis 8:21 ---- Evil - the intent of man�s heart is evil
Ecclesiastes 9:3--- Insane & Evil
Jeremiah 17:9 --- Deceitful & sick
Mark 7:21 --- Evil thoughts, prideful, foolish, adulterous, etc.
John 3:19 --- Evil deeds
Romans 8:7-8 ---Mind set on flesh is hostile to God-NOT EVEN ABLE to come to Christ; able=dynamai= power whether by virtue of one's own ability & resources
1 Corinth 2:14 --- CANNOT accept understand things of God
Ephesians 4:17-19 --- Understanding is darkened/away from life of God, hard heart
Ephesians 5:8 --- Darkened, ignorant, callous, hardness of heart
Titus 1:15 --- DEFILED IN DARKNESS
CONTROL OF SIN OVER THE NATURAL MAN:
John 8:34, 44 ---Slave to sin, wanting to do desire of their father the devil
Romans 6:20 --- Free (far away) from Righteousness
Ephesians 2:1,2 --- DEAD (nekros=corpse) in sin, walking in accord with devils desire
2 Timothy 2:25-26 --- Snared by devil, slave to devil�s will
Titus 3:3 --- Enslaved, deceived, disobedient
1 John 3:10 --- One NOT practicing Righteousness is NOT of God but child of the devil
1 John 3:18 --- Practicing sin (children of the devil)
1 John 5:19 --- whole world lies in power of evil one
INHERENT ABILITY OF NATURAL MAN TO REPENT & BELIEVE:
Job 14:4 --- Who can make clean out of the unclean? In our sin nature we cannot change it
Jeremiah 13:23 ---an Ethiopian man cannot chg his color; a leopard cannot chg his spots, we are born in sin, cannot change our sinful nature
Matthew 7:16-18 ---grapes aren�t gathered from thorn bushes; a good tree cannot produce bad fruit; A bad tree cannot produce good fruit
Matthew 12:33 --- A good tree is made to produce good fruit; a bad tree is made to produce bad fruit - Tree is known by its fruit
John 6:44, 65 ---NO ONE CAN COME to Christ unless The Father draws (helko=drags) him
1 Corinth 2:14 ---Natural man CANNOT understand spiritual things; things of God
1 Corinth 4:7 --- Whatever we have, new nature, new heart, we received it from God; new birth was GIVEN to us - NOT something we do
2 Corinth 3:5 --- Our adequacy, ability, is from God; we in our sinful nature don�t have the ability adequacy= hikanotēs = ability or competency to do a thing
Ephesians 2:8 ---We are saved by Grace through faith NOT of ourselves. Through Grace comes a gift from God; not of our will to be saved (Rom 3 & Rom 9); He gives us our gift of faith to salvation, He is the Author of our faith
Genesis 6:5 --- Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
Job 25:4-6 --- How then can a man be just with God? Or how can he be clean who is born of woman? If even the moon has no brightness and the stars are not pure in His sight, How much less man, that maggot, and the son of man that worm!
Isaiah 64:6 ---For all have become like one who is unclean and ALL our righteous deeds are like a filthy garment; all of us wither like a leaf and our iniquities like the wind take us away
Psalm 14:3 They have all turned aside together they have become corrupt There is no one who does good, not even one.
Mark 2:24 ---But Jesus, on His part, was not entrusting Himself to them for He knew all men;
Romans 7:18 --- I know that there is nothing good dwells in me, in my flesh
Romans 3:10 --- There is none righteous, not even one. There is no one who understands. There is none that seeks for God. ALL have turned aside; together they have become USELESS. There is none does good; there is not even one.
There is NO Biblical Support to the Calvinist Doctrine.... yada...yada...yada.!
Posted : 2 Oct, 2013 07:56 AM
"And those who do not believe what the Scripture teaches are UNbelievers. It cannot be any clearer."
Then shall we talk about your strange concepts of the last days and prophecy and heaven? What did the Eunuch who Phillip preached to know about the scriptures? What did the Thief on the cross know? When someone is a fresh Christian being weaned off of the "milk", are they unbelievers? Perhaps you just need to clarify yourself? I'm getting the impression that you're becoming rash and frustrated, you keep making some pretty blatant mistakes, I'll be praying for you to have patience. And either way, we can all use more patience!
"And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven."
"But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren."
"Jesus answered him, Wilt thou lay down thy life for my sake? Verily, verily, I say unto thee, The rooster shall not crow, till thou hast denied me thrice."
"But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven."
Peter was not converted until after he denied Christ three times. Do you maintain that Peter was a lost unbeliever until then? Even after that, it took a vision from God to convict him of the sin of "respecting persons", was he an unbeliever until then as well?
Knowledge does not determine conversion or there would be no recommendations for the believers to study their bibles after they're converted.
