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The 30th Birthday of Jesus was on December 2nd, AD 29. December 2nd AD 29 was 40 days before Ocober 23rd, AD 29 when Jesus was Annointed and Baptized. October 23rd AD 29 was exactly 1260 days before the Resurrection of Jesus on April 5th, AD 33.
Posted : 14 Dec, 2013 10:31 AM

The above statements are absolutely proven by God's Word as follows:



****ON WHAT DAY DID JESUS BECOME OUR PASSOVER LAMB ON PASSOVER DAY?? AND ON WHAT DAY WAS THE RESURRECTION DAY OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST??



Numbers 28:16: �On the 14th day of the 1st month the Lord�s Passover is to be held.� Exodus 12:6,7,12,13: �Take care of them {The Passover Lambs} until the 14th day of the month when all the people of Israel must slaughter them {See Lev 23:5} at Twilight {Just after sundown to nightfall}. Then they are to take some of the blood and put it on the door frames of their houses. On that same night I will strike down the firstborn of the Egyptians� but when I see the blood I will PASS OVER you.� Deut 16:1: �Observe the month of ABIB and celebrate the PASS OVER of the Lord your God, because in the month of ABIB He brought you out of Egypt by night.� Lev 23:6: �On the 15th day of that month {*ABIB*} the Lord's 7-day Feast of Unleavened Bread begins.�

Luke 22:7,8: Then came the day on which the Passover Lamb �Had� to be sacrificed. Jesus said, �Go and make preparations for us to eat the Passover.� Christ became our Passover Lamb on Passover Day!



1 Cor 5:7: �For Christ our PASSOVER LAMB has been sacrificed.� Whereas the Jews {who were following the evil Babylonian moon calendar} held their Passover on the 15th of Nisan {Which always occurs on the night of a full moon} and observed the Passover on the WRONG DAY as per John 18:28: �Then the Jews led Jesus from Caiaphas to the palace of the Roman Governor {Pilate}. By now it was early morning, and to avoid ceremonial uncleanness the Jews did not enter the palace; for they wanted to be able to eat the PASSOVER!!�



Which would have been the day �AFTER� Jesus correctly held the Passover on the 14th of ABIB which God had commanded. So we can assume that the month of ABIB is different from the Babylonian moon month of Nisan and therefore has nothing to do with the moon. When does the first month of the Bible Year called ABIB begin?? Many Bible scholars believe that it always begins of the first day of SPRING or sundown March 20th to sundown March 21st for ABIB is the Hebrew word for SPRING!!! And so the 14th {*7+7*} Day of ABIB can also be translated the 14th {*7+7*} day of SPRING!!



The letters {A=1, B=2 etc} in {*ABIB*} add up to {*14*} or {*7+7*}. {*CHRIST*} who adds up to {*77*} became our Passover {*LAMB*} which adds up to {*28*} or {*7+7+7+7*} on the {*14TH*} or {*7+7*} of {*ABIB*} which adds up to 14 or {*7+7*}! [*LAMB*] & {*ABIB 14*} both add up to {*28*} or {*7+7+7+7*} in English Gematria!



All encyclopedias state that Augustus Caesar died on August 19, AD 14 and therefore the 15th year of the reign of his successor, Tiberius Caesar, would have been from August 19, AD 28 to August 19, AD 29. Luke 3:1,2: �In the 15th year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar� the Word of God came to John son of Zechariah in the desert.� Now we know from Luke 3:1-3 above that John the Baptist began his ministry in the 15th year of Tiberius which most likely began on his 30th birthday according to OT Law {As per I Chron 23:3}.



And we know from Luke 1:35-37 that John was 5 to 6 months older than Jesus. Luke 3:23: �Now Jesus Himself was as thirty years old when He began His ministry.� So if Jesus began His ministry on His 30th human birthday {As per OT Law} on or about December 2nd, AD 29 then John would have began his ministry 5 to 6 months earlier about June 2nd to July 2nd, AD 29 which would be in the 15th year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar since the 15th year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar was completed on August 19th AD 29 which was exactly 15 years after the death of Augustus Caesar on August 19th, AD 14.



The 30th birthday of Jesus was most likely about December 2nd AD 29 since He would have been baptized or Anointed 40 days earlier on October 23rd, AD 29 and since the Resurrection Day of our Lord Jesus was exactly 1260 days after His Anointing on October 23rd, AD 29; or on April 5th, AD 33; which completed the first half of the last 7 {1260 days} of the 70 7's in Daniel 9:27a when the Anointed One gave us a New Covenant and put an end to all sacrifices for sin in the middle of the last 7.



If you go to the Internet under {timeanddate.com/calendar} you will be able to find the calendar for the month of April, AD 33 in Israel {Backspace and remove 2011 and type in 33 and scroll to Israel}. You will observe that April 2nd, AD 33 was on a Thursday and that April 5th, AD 33 was on a Sunday. So it is quite probable that Jesus held the Passover right after Sundown on April 2nd, AD 33; was crucified on Friday, April 3rd, AD 33; and then was raised to life on Sunday, April 5th, AD 33. Then the 14th day of the first Bible month of ABIB or PASSOVER DAY would have begun on the 14th day after March 21st AD 33 {The first day of Spring}. If the first day of ABIB was from sundown, March 20th, AD 33 to sundown March 21st, AD 33 then the 14th day of ABIB or Passover Day would have been from sundown, April 2nd, AD 33 to sundown, April 3rd, AD 33. Jesus was our Passover Lamb {I Cor 5:7} on Passover Day! And so our Lord�s Resurrection Day is always on the **16TH OF ABIB**; which is always on **APRIL 5TH** each and every year!!



WHAT ARE THE 3 PASSAGES IN GOD'S WORD WHICH SHOW THAT THE GREAT TRIBULATION AND THE REIGN OF 666 WILL LAST EXACTLY 1260 DAYS OR 42 {30-DAY} MONTHS??



**{#1}** Daniel 12:1b,2,7b: �There will be a time of distress {The Great Tribulation} such as not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time {The Last Day} your people--*EVERYONE* whose name is found written in the book {Both OT & NT Saints}�will be delivered. Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt�It will be for a time. times and half a time {Which is also 1260 days as per Rev 12:6,14, or 42 {30-day} months as per Rev 13:5} *ALL* these things will be *COMPLETED.



**{#2}** Rev 13:5,7: The beast will be given a mouth to utter blasphemies and to exercise his authority for 42 {30-day} months {Not 7 years}�He will be given power to make war against the saints and to conquer them. COMPARE WITH:



**{#3}**Dan 7:25: �He will speak against the Most High and oppress His saints. The saints will be handed over to him for time {12 months}, times {24 months} and 1/2 a time {6 months}. {Not 7 years}



Events in Revelation that will occur during the 1260-day Tribulation are discussed in Rev 6:1 to 18:24, Events that will occur on the Last Day are recorded in Rev 6:12-17; Rev 11:15-19; Rev 14:14-20; Rev 16:17-21; Rev 19:1-21 & Rev 20:9b-15. The Olivet discourse by Jesus about the End-Times are recorded in Matt 24 & 25, Mark 13 and Luke 21. Events that will occur during the 1260-day Tribulation are recorded in Matt 24:9-28; Mark 13:5-23 and Luke 21:8-24. Events which will occur on the Last Day of the Tribulation including the 2nd Coming of Jesus are recorded in Matt 24:29-31; Matt 25:31-46; Mark 13:24-27, Luke 21:25-28 and 2 Peter 3:10-13. The glorious APPEARING of Jesus and the resurrection of His saints on the Last day of the Tribulation are mentioned in God's Word about 50 other times such as Titus 2:13: �WE wait for the blessed hope�the glorious APPEARING of our Great God and Savior, Jesus Christ,�



For example: If the coming of 666 and the 1260-day Great Tribulation starts on October 23rd, 2012 then the 2nd coming of Jesus would occur exactly 1260 days later on April 5th, 2016. When the 1260-day Great Tribulation begins God's saints will then know the exact day of the 2nd coming on the Last Day as per: Rev 3:3: Jesus says, �But {*IF*} you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you.� I Thess 5:4: Paul said �But YOU BROTHERS {*CHURCH SAINTS*}, are not in darkness so that {*THIS DAY*} should surprise you like a thief.�



THERE ARE SOME WHO SAY THAT THE GREAT TRIBULATION WILL LAST 7 YEARS AND NOT 1260 DAYS??



Now there are some who suggest that the Anti-Christ will exercise his authority for 7 years {Not 42 Months} and that the Great Tribulation will last 7 years {Not 1260 Days or 3 1/2 Times}. They have only **ONE** Bible verse {Daniel 9:27�which they grossly misinterpret} to support this idea which absolutely contradicts God�s Divine Time Periods as found in Rev 13:5b, Dan 7:25b & Dan 12:7b.



Before quoting Daniel 9:24-27 several things should be noted:



NOTE: About 280 years before the Dan 9:24-27 Prophecy God made this amazing prophecy in Isaiah 44:28: The Lord� says of *CYRUS*, �He is my shepherd and will accomplish all that I please; he will say of JERUSALEM LET IT BE REBUILT!� This verse absolutely contradicts the Artaxerxes theory!



NOTE: According to Leviticus 25:8 a Sabbath �week� or *7 is *7 YEARS and 7 times 7 YEARS or �weeks� is a Jubilee or 49 years.Hebrews 9:15,26b-28:



NOTE: Hebrews 9:15,26b-28: Christ is the mediator of a NEW COVENANT so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance--now that He has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant...But now He has APPEARED once for all at the end of the ages to do away with sin by the SACRIFICE of Himself... so Christ was SACRIFICED ONCE to take away the sins of many people, and He will *APPEAR* a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for Him when Jesus will bring in Everlasting Righteousness on the Last Day of the Last 7.



�70 7'S OR 490 YEARS ARE DECREED TO ANOINT THE MOST HOLY, TO ATONE FOR WICKEDNESS AND TO BRING IN EVERLASTING RIGHTEOUSNESS!!�



Dan 9:24-27: �70 7�s {490 years} are decreed for your people TO ANOINT THE MOST HOLY, TO ATONE FOR WICKEDNESS and TO BRING IN EVERLASTING RIGHTEOUSNSS.. "Know and understand this: From the issuing of the decree {By Cyrus-Isa 44:28 above} to rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One comes {Oct 23, AD 29?} there will be 7 plus 62 7's {Which is 69 7's or 483 years}. "After the 7 plus 62 7's {actually 1260 days after on April 3-5 AD 33} the Anointed One will be cut off but not for Himself..... He {The Anointed One} will confirm a COVENANT with many for one 'seven'. In the middle of the 'seven' {After 1260 days} He {The Anointed One; not 666} will put an END TO SACRIFICES {ATONE FOR WICKEDNESS}{And then after a long pause} the abomination of Desolation {666} will come {for the 1260 day Great Tribulation} until the decreed end is poured out on him.� on the Last day of the last 7 {See Rev 19:20} And so the first half of the last 7 was already COMPLETED when Jesus put and END to all sacrifices for sin 1260 days after His Anointing which occurred after 69 7's.



When the Anointed One came 69 7's or 483 years were 100% completed [See Dan 9:25 above} leaving just one 7 in the future; which will be totally used by those who wrongly believe in a future 7-year Tribulation; which means that the ATONEMENT FOR WICKEDNESS by Jesus about 3 1/2 years after His Anointing can not be included in the 70 7's Prophecy. However, God's Word clearly states that 70 7's are decreed ...TO ATONE FOR WICKEDNESS which occurred about 3 1/2 years after the end of the 69 7's and therefore the first half of the last 7 has already been completed since there are only 3 1/2 times left in the 70 7's. And so the Great Tribulation and the rule of 666 will last exactly 1260 days or 42 months or 3 1/2 times which agrees which God's Divine time periods found in Dan 12:1,2,7b; Dan 7:25 & Rev 13:5.



Now many saints believe the reign of 666 and the Great Tribulation are extremely close. I Peter 1:13: �Therefore, prepare your minds for ACTION, and set your hope *FULLY* on the grace to be given you when Jesus Christ is *REVEALED*!�



And so the first half of the Last 7 was also exactly 1260 days from the Anointing of Jesus on October 23rd, AD 29 to the Resurrection of the Annointed One on April 5th, AD 33. And Jesus began his minstry on his 30th birthday as per Luke 3:23 after spending 40 days in the wilderness after his Annointing on October 23rd AD 29 which would be on December 2nd, AD 29.



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Posted : 16 Dec, 2013 12:57 PM

One these days a light bulb is going to come on and you will realize that all of the end time battles and conflicts in "Revelations" are fights going on between the kingdoms of earth and heaven within us.



*** That's really interesting Doug...I've never read or heard anything like this before...could you please explain how you came to this conclusion about the Book of Revelations...thank you in advance...God Bless...xo

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Posted : 16 Dec, 2013 12:59 PM

restassured states: "FORGET about the 1260 days in Revelation" which is the position of all the symbolic Preterist and Historicists.



They want us to FORGET about the 1260 days or 42 months or time {360 days}, times {720 days} and 1/2 time {180 days} which are mentioned 7 times in God's inspired Words as the time period for the Great Tribulation and the rule of 666 in the 1260 days before the 2nd Coming of Jesus.



These inspired time periods are mentioned 7 times in God's in God's inspired Words.



{**1**} Daniel 12:7

(**2**} Revelation 13:5

(**3**} Daniel 7:25

{**4**} Revelation 12:6

{**5**} Revelation 12:14

{**6**} Revelation 11:2

{**7**} Revelation 11:3



Revelation 22::16,18-19: "I Jesus have sent My angel to give you this testimoney FOR THE CHURCHES...I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone ADDS anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this Book {Including Eternal Hell} And if anyone *TAKES WORDS AWAY* {Like the Historicists or the Preterists} from this Book of Prophecy,

God will take away from him his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holdy City {The New Jerusalem}, which are described in this Book!!"



**{#1}** Daniel 12:1b,2,7b: �There will be a time of distress {The Great Tribulation} such as not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time {The Last Day} your people--*EVERYONE* whose name is found written in the book {Both OT & NT Saints}�will be delivered. Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt�It will be for a time. times and half a time {Which is also 1260 days as per Rev 12:6,14, or 42 {30-day} months as per Rev 13:5} *ALL* these things will be *COMPLETED.



**{#2}** Rev 13:5-10: The beast will be given a mouth to utter blasphemies and to exercise his authority for 42 {30-day} months {Or 1260 days or time {360 days}, times {720 days} and 1/2 a time {180 days}.�He will be given power to make war against the saints and to conquer them. And he was given authority over EVERY people, language and nation. All inhabitants of the earth will worship the Beast--all whose names have not been written in the Book of Life belonging to the Lamb... This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of the saints! COMPARE WITH:



**{#3}**Dan 7:25: �He will speak against the Most High and oppress His saints. The saints will be handed over to him for time {12 months}, times {24 months} and 1/2 a time {6 months}. {Not 7 years}. But the court will sit, and his power will be taken away and completely destroyed forever.{See Rev 19:20 & 2 Thess 2:8} THEN the sovereignty, power and greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven will be handed over to the saints, the people of the Most High. His Kingdom will be an EVERLASTING KINGDOM!!



Events in Revelation that will occur during the 1260-day Tribulation are discussed in Rev 6:1 to 18:24, Events that will occur on the Last Day are recorded in Rev 6:12-17; Rev 11:15-19; Rev 14:14-20; Rev 16:17-21; Rev 19:1-21 & Rev 20:9b-15. The Olivet discourse by Jesus about the End-Times are recorded in Matt 24 & 25, Mark 13 and Luke 21.



Events that will occur during the 1260-day Tribulation are recorded in Matt 24:9-28; Mark 13:5-23 and Luke 21:8-24. Events which will occur on the Last Day of the Tribulation including the 2nd Coming of Jesus are recorded in Matt 24:29-31; Matt 25:31-46; Mark 13:24-27, Luke 21:25-28 and 2 Peter 3:10-13. The glorious APPEARING of Jesus and the resurrection of His saints on the Last day of the Tribulation are mentioned in God's Word about 50 other times such as Titus 2:13: �WE wait for the blessed hope�the glorious APPEARING of our Great God and Savior, Jesus Christ,�



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Posted : 16 Dec, 2013 02:54 PM

"Zeal without knowledge is like a mettled horse without eyes, or like a sword in a madman�s hand...." John Bunyan

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Posted : 16 Dec, 2013 03:42 PM

GJ said



"** That's really interesting Doug...I've never read or heard anything like this before...could you please explain how you came to this conclusion about the Book of Revelations...thank you in advance...God Bless...xo"



Doug says...........



Even in this day and age I am not the first person to understand this.......... not by a long shot and this is what is looked forward to by many "third day" ministries or at least the ones who comprehend Ro.8:19, Gal.4:19, Eph.3:19, 4:13 along with the title of the Book of Revelation that means to "take the cover off of," or a better definition yet, "the unveiling of Jesus Christ as shown to the apostle John".



On the other hand 99.9% of the first century church understood this as well as the rest of the truth that explains why God worked through them in ways not seen since then (for all practical purposes).



On the other hand there are those today who witness the dead raised alive and see the sick healed the same as the first century apostles did.



This is the fulfillment of the knowledge of "mystery of Godliness" to be complete before the announcement of the seventh angel for when the kingdoms of the earth (in us) will finally become the kingdoms of our Lord (the fulness of Him in us).



I don't know what else to say but it never was about one Son dying just so everyone could be forgiven for their sins, but instead through one Son many more sons would come forth in the same image and likeness (God's commandment in Ge.1:26 fulfilled) starting in Jn 1:12, and for example ending in Rev. 2:26-29 when certain persons are given the morning star which is the exact duplication of Jesus Christ Himself (Rev.22:16). In other words not much different other than the realms of natural versus the spiritual in the conversation we had before of when John went to worship in the spirit realm what he thought was Jesus Christ Himself from his time he spent with Jesus in the natural realm.



The real "you" GJ is a spirit and when the day comes when "your body dies" your spirit continues to live on but in the resurrection that is when spirit goes back to God who gave it without you ever missing so much as a "heart beat of time" let alone a thousand years. This is why I shared my testimony with you and one or two others here more so then I did to share it with "all others" here.



Meanwhile, the whole purpose of why Jesus taught us to pray for the kingdom of heaven to come to earth is because the kingdoms of heaven and earth are within us and there needs to be a victory for Jesus. Armageddon is just the final battle we are guaranteed to loose so God can win and become all in all



You pray about it and if God says you are ready to hear more, you send me a PM with an address and I will send you a book at no cost to you.



Other than that I can only suggest you do some third day, latter rain , manifested son, etc research online with the understanding it is looking for diamonds in a coal mine........ there are some diamonds to be found but you will have to move a few tons of coal to find them



Blessings, and much love in Christ Jesus



Doug

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Posted : 16 Dec, 2013 05:59 PM

Jewish Voice�s Messianic Rabbi Jack Zimmerman, shares fascinating revelations about the true time period of Y-shua�s (Jesus�) birth .









Last night was the beginning of Sukkot. This is the day scholars believe Y-shua was born, not December 25. The reason is He tabernacled among us and that�s what Sukkot means. A little less than 2,000 years ago, it might have not been this particular day, but it was the first day of Sukkot. What�s great about the Bible is that the Bible proves itself.



There are a couple of different days they throw out there in history for His birth: December 25 is thrown out there; January 6 or 7 is thrown out there; even Pesach, Passover, is thrown out there.



I will prove to you, I believe, from G-d�s Word. Without a shadow of a doubt you will know exactly when He was born.



In order for us to find out exactly when He was born, we�ve got to go back to Zechariah. Mary�s cousin Elizabeth was married to Zechariah, who was a priest in the temple.



In 1 Chronicles 24, King David, from the order of G-d Himself, started the rotation of the priests. There were 24 rotations, each priest from each house. The 24 courses of the temple priesthood are found in 1 Chronicles 24 and 28, where it lists all the priestly line and their rotation. They had to draw lots. I have no clue what that included, but it was something that they allowed and I don� t think it was like gambling in a casino.



The priests began their service on a Shabbat. It is a Shabbat today. Actually, today is considered a high Shabbat.



There were three feasts that every Israelite man had to go up to Jerusalem for: Pesach, or Passover; Shavuot, or Pentecost; and Tabernacles, or Sukkot. They would go up to the temple and they would make their sacrifices.



Zechariah was the father of John the Baptist. His course happened to have been during the time after Pentecost. We are actually in the Jewish month of Sivan. We are going by the Jewish calendar not the Greco-Roman calendar. That would be between May and June. May and June would be when he would have stopped his rotation, which usually lasted 6-12 weeks, depending on which house you were from and what rotation you were in.



That meant Zechariah completed his temple service on a Sabbath, he went home, and sometime around the end of June-beginning of July, Elizabeth would have conceived John the Baptist. The reason why John�s conception and his birth is important is because it will determine in chronological order Y-shua�s birth.



If you go to Luke 1:24-27, it talks about when Elizabeth conceived. Fast forward six months to when Miriam, or Mary, came to visit her, and whose baby leapt within her? Elizabeth�s. This is awesome that even in the womb a fetus recognized the Messiah of Israel. I don�t know about you, but that gives me chills.



By the way, it is said that when Mary conceived Y-shua, it was actually around December 25. Think about this for a second. He wasn�t born on December 25, but there are two things to see here. Number one, in the Jewish culture of His day, the day you were conceived was actually considered your birthday. Also, it was Chanukah time, and it was around Chanukah, which is the Festival of Lights, that the Light of the World was conceived. Even though Chanukah was a manmade festival, Y-shua still celebrated it.



Working from when John was conceived, and then when Y-shua was conceived, Scripture tells us Mary stayed with Elizabeth three months. If Elizabeth was already six months pregnant, then she stayed with her until the baby was born. That baby was born, John the Immerser, the forerunner of the spotless Lamb of G-d, during Pesach, or Passover.



It gets better. In Jewish tradition and also Messianic tradition, during the Passover Seder they have a cup for Elijah. In Matthew 17:10 it says, �His disciples asked him saying, �Why then do the scribes say Elijah must come first?�� John was actually a forerunner of the Meshiach, the Messiah. He was to prepare the way. The fact is scholars actually believe that he was born at the exact time on the same day that we usher in Elijah the prophet, the spirit of Elijah. Guess what? He is the spirit of Elijah.



Then we have the birth of John. John was born the week of Pesach. Mary would already have been three months pregnant. If you go from December 25 and you count 40 weeks or nine months, guess where we come to? The fifteenth day of the seventh month, Tishri, which is the Festival of Tabernacles, or Sukkot. You see how the Bible proves itself?



If G-d�s festivals are His appointed times, His moadim, and Y-shua died on Passover, why is it so hard for us to believe that He would have been born during G-d�s appointed time, one of the feasts that the Israelite men had to come up for?



In conclusion about Tabernacles, Y-shua was born the first day of Tabernacles, and He was circumcised the eighth day of Tabernacles.



What I really want to bring to your attention is that Tabernacles was a feast of the ingathering of the Harvest. His first coming was when he was born on the 15th of Tishri, the first day of Tabernacles, so then would it be quite reasonable to presume that the Harvest of this earth, the ingathering of the Second Coming of Y-shua, will occur precisely the same day? I am not talking about the rapture of the saints. I am talking about His Second Coming.



Pretty amazing, right? Think about how G-d is. He has done everything about the Messiah through His festivals.

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Posted : 16 Dec, 2013 07:26 PM

Colossians 2:13-17: When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, CANCELED the written code with its regulations, that was against us and stood opposed to us; He took it away, nailing to the cross. And having disarmed the powers and authorities, He made a public spectacle of them, thriumhping over them by the cross. Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a RELIGIOUS FESTIVAL, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a SHADOW of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ!!



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Posted : 16 Dec, 2013 07:39 PM

@ prophetic774



it does not do any good to spend time trying to explain things to you........... obviously you already know it all



@ mcubed



Awesome post........ one of if not the best I have ever seen on the birth of Christ.



Blessings to you and to yours

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Posted : 16 Dec, 2013 09:39 PM

WHO WILL BE GOD'S TWO WITNESSES {REV 11:3} OR MEN {REV 11:6} OR PROPHETS {REV 11:10}??



Zechariah 4:11,14: "Then I asked the angel, 'What are these *TWO* OLIVE TREES {See Rev 11:4 below} on the right and left of the lamp stand?'... the angel said, 'These are the TWO who are anointed to serve the Lord of the earth!'" �Rev 11:3-6: {God said to John} "I will give power to My *TWO* witnesses and they will prophesy for 1260 days clothed in sackcloth! These are the *TWO OLIVE TREES {See Zech 4:11,14 above} and the 2 lamp stands that stand before the Lord of the earth. If anyone tries to harm them, fire will come from their mouths to destroy their enemies. This is how anyone who tries to harm them must die {See 2 Kings 1:9-12; Num 16:31-35}.



These *MEN* will have power to shut up the sky so that it will not rain during the time they are prophesying {See 1 Kings 17:1; Luke 4:25; James 5:17}; and they will have power to turn the waters into blood {See Exodus 7:15-23} and to strike the earth with every kind of plague as often as they wish."



Moses and Elijah witnessed to 3 Apostles on the mount of Transfiguration when Moses & Elijah spoke to Jesus about his departure or Ascension, which Jesus was to bring to fulfillment in Jerusalem 40 days after His resurrection. Luke 9:30,31: �TWO MEN, Moses and Elijah, appeared in GLORIOUS SPLENDOR talking with Jesus.� They spoke about His Departure {Or Ascension} which He was about to bring to fulfillment in Jerusalem." Moses and Elijah were most assuredly the *TWO MEN* dressed in white who witnessed at the Departure or Ascension of Jesus in Acts 1:10,11: "They looked up into the sky as He {Jesus} was going when suddenly *TWO MEN* dressed in WHITE stood beside them. "Men of Galilee," they said, "why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into Heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen Him go into Heaven!"�



���� And then in Luke 24:2b-6b we read: They did not find the body of Jesus. While they were wondering about this, suddenly *TWO MEN*... stood beside them... And the *MEN* said to them, "Why do you look for the living among the dead? HE IS NOT HERE; HE HAS RISEN!!" �� Jesus says in John 8:17b: "The testimony of *TWO MEN IS VALID* and of course the testimony of Moses and Elijah is just about as valid as you can get. ��



���� And so the coming of God's *TWO MEN* or witnesses to prophesy for 1260 days {See Rev 11:3-7} will be their FOURTH appearance as God's 2 witnesses or MEN. And the reason that their names are not mentioned in Luke 24:3 and Acts 1:10 and Rev 11:3-12 is that the Father, Moses and Elijah want us to glorify *NO ONE ELSE BUT JESUS*!!



� � Moses and Elijah will most likely witness miraculously to people in the uttermost parts of the earth in all 6,000 languages. Presently the Bible has been translated into about 2,000 languages from the inspired Greek and Hebrew manuscripts and faith comes from hearing or reading the sword of the spirit which is the Word of God. The Bible still has not been translated into about 4,000 languages and Rev 5:9b and Rev 7:9,13,14 must be completely fulfilled.�



Surely the courageous tribulation saints will help Moses and Elijah spread God's Word. They will do a fantastic job since according to Rev 7:9,14 there will be a great multitude from EVERY TRIBE AND LANGUAGE who will be �WASHED IN THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB�.



Moses & Elijah will be dressed in SACKCLOTH which is appropriate since the Tribulation saints will be very poor, for they will not be able to buy or sell anything as per Rev 13:17. Moses and Elijah will certainly speak the Word of God with great power and love. They will not add or take words away from the Prophetic Words of God {See Rev 22:18,19}; and they will encourage God's courageous saints to adhere to *ALL* of the NT commandments {See Rev 12:13b; 14:12b; Matt 28:20a; John 14:15,21,23; I John 2:2-5} with love {See Matt 5:39-48 & Rom 12:17-21} in the face of severe and hostile persecution.



Moses and Elijah will begin their 1260-day testimony {Rev 11:3} 3 1/2 days before the coming of 666 & the 1260-day Great Tribulation and 1263 1/2 days before the Last Day. {*THE FIRST END-TIME EVENT*} Moses and Elijah will warn us of the coming of 666 & his False Prophet. ��� It seems very appropriate that God will send His TWO PROPHETS {See Rev 11:10b} to warn and prepare His saints for the coming of Satan, 666 and the Great Tribulation for in Amos 3:7 we read: "Surely the Sovereign Lord does nothing without revealing His plan to His servants the PROPHETS!"�



GOD'S PROPHETS are mentioned 8 times in Revelation: Revelation 10:7; 11:10; 11:18; 16:6; 18:20,24; 22:6 & 22:9. Whereas; preachers, pastors and evangelists are not even mentioned once in Revelation! God will allow 666 to martyr Moses and Elijah {See Rev 11:7,8} right where their Lord was crucified. {At the new *HOLY PLACE* where Jesus shed his blood for our sins} 3 1/2 days later Moses and Elijah will rise to heaven just hours before the 7th angel sounds the 7th Trump at the 2nd coming of Jesus.{See Rev 11:11-18}



Mark 13:14: Jesus says, �When you see 666 standing where he does not belong {AT THE NEW HOLY PLACE}....then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.� {See Rev 11:7,8 & Rev 16:15} John 2:19: Jesus said, �Destroy this TEMPLE and I will raise it again in 3 days.� This HOLY PLACE is where Jesus became the chief cornerstone {Eph 2:20,21} and we are living stones {I Pet 2:5 & 2 Cor 6:16} in the LAST TEMPLE made without hands! {Acts 17:24}



����Certainly, the old Jerusalem and the old Temple site are NO LONGER HOLY PLACES.�� Hebrews 13:12-14: "Jesus suffered outside the city gate to make the people HOLY THROUGH HIS BLOOD. Let us, then, go to Him outside the city, bearing the disgrace He bore. For here we do not have an enduring city, but we are looking for the CITY {THE NEW JERUSALEM} that is to come." {See Heb 11:10,13-16; Heb 12:22; Rev 3:12b; 21:2,10-27; 22:1-5; 2 Pet 3:13}



Gal 4:25,26: "Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem {Called Sodom in Rev 11:8} because she is in slavery with her children. But the Jerusalem that is ABOVE is free, and she is our mother." {THE *NEW* JERUSALEM}



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