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Posted : 5 Sep, 2015 03:30 AM

Hello everyone

I hear these two sayings a lot by Christians, church service--- worship service, I cannot find either of these terms nor any references to them in the entire New Covenant.

Is there someone which could post at least one Scripture showing where we are to be ' Going to church', ' Attending a worship service' or 'Going to a church service'.



I do not believe these 'things' are in the Word of GOD almighty, that they have been made up by men to entertain the people and to keep the masses from knowing the truth of who Messiah

Yeshua really is.



Have fun searching the Scriptures concerning these man made events.



Shalom

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Posted : 12 Sep, 2015 05:51 PM

Hi Hark

I hate to disappoint you and some many others here but the church is a business, an ORGANIZATION created by men,not YHWH or Yeshua.



Let us see how a business looks, and then we will see how the church is set up the exact same way.



Business church

Leadership Leadership

Ceo pastor

Vice president assistant pastor

Board of directors bored of directors

workers sheeple

Needs money to pay wages Needs money to pay wages

to Ceo, and vice president to pay pastor and assistant

pastor

rent and expenses for bldg. rent and expenses for

bldg. bldg.



Takes the 501C3 Takes the 501C3

Corporation tax CORPORATION TAX

FREE exemption FREE EXEMPTION



Now where is the difference between these two ORGANIZATIONS, the names have been changed yet the control over the people is the same.



Messiah says in Matthew 16: 18

18 "I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My called out ones;

Most of the English translations have many translational errors which need to be translated correctly In order to teach rightly the Word of YHWH.

Shalom

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Posted : 12 Sep, 2015 06:55 PM

Quote from OP: "Messiah says in Matthew 16: 18



18 "I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My called out ones;



Most of the English translations have many translational errors which need to be translated correctly In order to teach rightly the Word of YHWH.



Shalom "









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Thanks for calling this to my attention.

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Posted : 12 Sep, 2015 07:07 PM

Quote from OP:



"Takes the 501C3 Takes the 501C3"



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My church isn't a 501(c)3.



Our speech, and religious freedom, isn't controlled by the Federal Government.



We paid the price to freely exercise our God given rights, by offering tribute to the to the public servants who are paid to protect our God given rights.



They'll use that money to buy vehicles, and hire men with guns to drive around and.......protect us.

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Posted : 12 Sep, 2015 09:13 PM

Hark

Going a little off subject, but that is ok.

I think to close out this topic.



Shalom

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Posted : 13 Sep, 2015 03:39 PM

Baruch Shalom!:waving:

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Posted : 16 Sep, 2015 01:46 PM

Yup!!!...The words �Church Service� and �Worship Service� are not found in Scriptures�However the �Church� is a Gathering of Christians�wherever it be held�A Worship Service is a Gathering of Christians to raise Holy hands and Sing Songs of Praise to the LORD�Together !!!



The word "church" occurs 77 times in 76 Verses.

The word "worship occurs 108 in 102 Verses.

The word gathering occurs 11 times in 11 verses



Strong's G1577 � ekkl�sia

1~ a gathering of citizens called out from their homes into some public place, an assembly

2 ~ an assembly of Christians gathered for worship in a religious meeting

3 ~ a company of Christian, or of those who, hoping for eternal salvation through Jesus Christ, observe their own religious rites, hold their own religious meetings, and manage their own affairs, according to regulations prescribed for the body for order's sake.

It is Gathering Together� Jesus likes crowds�the Scriptures record All HIS Travels�and He went Many Places to call HIS Children and still does�THANK YOU Papa GOD for continuing to call the Lost and Dying in Sin to YOU!!!...



Strong's G4863 � synag� � to gather together, to gather ~ of G4863 ~ syn ~ with.

To Gather With ~ Together�The word Synagoge comes from this word and it is a Jewish Building that they also call a Temple�and they gather in it together to reading the Torah and Sing and Dance. Us Christians would do well to loosen up a bit and get to stompin our feet along with clapin hands.



I�ve learned that some folks mock or belittle those that attend these gatherings because they believe they are �They are the Called out ones��Which just means �Church�. What is interesting about this stance is that Christ Jesus NEVER calls us out of HIS Body�He calls us IN~to it...We are to be Together with HIM and the HolySpirit of the LORD comes IN~to US!!!



And for me�there isn�t a better place to be than "IN" Christ�which occurs 224 Verses....So whether I be Outside/Campout�In a Building Home/Church�Wal~Mart�or a Denny�s�Fellowship and Worship are much More Important than where we be holding the �Gathering� / "Meetin House"...<<<< Thats "Southern" for "Church" "Gathering" for "Worship"...:excited:



God�s continued Blessings to Yall�and keep looking up and be ready for He is to return for HIS Bride...Soon!!!...YEEE�.HAWWWW !!! X <>< O

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Posted : 17 Sep, 2015 06:35 PM

My Brother in Christ,



I believe I understand your disappointment with what the 'called out ones' as you would put it (I have no problem calling it that) or 'the church' as I would put it has become.



The problem is, this argument is one of semantics, are we arguing about what a concept means, or what it is called? Whether it be, the called out ones, the gathering, the Brotherhood, the Body of Christ or the Church...Sorry to quote from someone other than a prophet but it seems apt 'A rose by any other name would smell as sweet'!



I doubt you would argue against a gathering of 'the called out ones' and if so, where are we to meet? Can we meet in a building? Can we have a time of worship in this building?



I do agree that some (maybe even a lot) of Churches have lost their way. We are in fact to expect this, there are plenty of allusions to apostasy within 'the called out ones' in the Bible.



If we denounce the idea of gathering together completely though, where would we be? Worshiping on our own and in danger of of falling prey to the enemy I think...



That all said though, I can appreciate your worries. I fear that most people who call themselves 'Christians' only do so on the basis that they 'visit a building' once, twice or however many times a week it may be...I personally never leave 'Church' Because I recognise the Church as what the Word describes it as, the body of my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.



The problem with the church building nowadays is that many people walk in to it, do their worship then walk out of it and apart from a little prayer before bed, carry on their lives thinking that their 'service' to God is done, and anything else they do in life is extra (like a little charity work here and a little good turn there). In Mk 10:21 Jesus wasn't asking us to give up our possessions for Him, but ourselves. He wants us to be willing to give up everything that we are all of the time. It is not good enough to just simply give up a couple of hrs a week but the whole week! And yes it is a sacrifice, but he gave his life for us so that we can be saved from the eternal damnation that we deserve.



Be Blessed.

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Posted : 25 Sep, 2015 09:20 PM

Quote from GodsJude: "Jesus likes crowds�the Scriptures record All HIS Travels�and He went Many Places to call HIS Children and still does�"





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Why did you write "HIS" in all caps, twice?



Are you implying that the messiah has children, aside from Father YHWH's children?

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