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Posted : 26 Jul, 2017 11:55 AM

Deuteronomy 6:4



Hear, you Israel: YHWH our God, YHWH is one. You shall love YHWH your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might. And these words that I command you today shall be on your heart. You shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise. You shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes. You shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates.



Deut.4:35



35 You were shown these things so that you might know that YHWH is God; besides him there is no other.



Deut.4:39



Acknowledge and take to heart this day that YHWH is God in heaven above and on the earth below. There is no other.



Isaiah 44



6 �This is what YHWH says � Israel�s King (Yahshua had not yet been installed as YHWH's proxy King) and Redeemer, YHWH Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God.



Isaiah 44



24 �This is what YHWH says� your Redeemer, who formed you in the womb: I am YHWH, the maker of all things, who stretches out the heavens, who spreads out the earth by myself.



Isaiah 42



5 This is what YHWH says� He who created the heavens and stretched them out, who spread out the earth and all that comes out of it, who gives breath to its people, and life to those who walk on it:



Isaiah 42



8 I am YHWH: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images."



Isaiah 45



5 I am YHWH, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God. 7 I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, YHWH, do all these things. 12 It is I who made the earth and created mankind upon it. My own hands stretched out the heavens; I marshaled their starry hosts. 18 For this is what YHWH says� He who created the heavens, He (alone) is God; He who fashioned and made the earth, He founded it; He did not create it to be empty, but formed it to be inhabited� He says: "I am Yahuah, and there is no other (God)."



Isaiah 46



5 "To whom will you compare me or count me equal? To whom will you liken me that we may be compared? 8 "Remember this, fix it in mind, take it to heart, you rebels. 9 Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me. 10 I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come. I say: My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please.



1 Tim 3:16



MT: And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen by angels, preached among the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up in glory.

CT: By common confession, great is the mystery of godliness: He who was revealed in the flesh, was vindicated in the Spirit, seen by angels, proclaimed among the nations, believed on in the world, taken up in glory.



1 John 4:3



MT: and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.

CT: and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.



Jude 25



MT: To God our Savior, Who alone is wise, Be glory and majesty, Dominion and power, Both now and forever. Amen.

CT: To the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, Be glory and majesty, Dominion and power, Before all time, now and forever. Amen.





Isaiah 43:10 King James Version (KJV)



10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, (YHWH) and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.



John 3:16 King James Version (KJV)



16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever

believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.



beget



verb be�get



: to cause (something) to happen or exist



: to become the father of (someone)



transitive verb



1

: to procreate as the father : sire

2

: to produce especially as an effect or outgrowth



http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/beget



I Timothy 2:5 KJV



5 For there is one God, and one mediator BETWEEN God and men, the MAN Christ Jesus



John 17:3 KJV



....And this is life eternal, that they might know THEE, the only true God, AND Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.



1 Corinthians 8:4-6New International Version (NIV)



4 So then, about eating food sacrificed to idols: We know that �An idol is nothing at all in the world� and that �There is no God but one.� 5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many �gods� and many �lords�), 6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.





John 20:17King James Version (KJV)



17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.



Romans 15:6 (English-NIV)

so that with one heart and mouth you may glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.



2 Corinthians 1:3 (English-NIV)

Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort,



2 Corinthians 11:31 (English-NIV)

The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, who is to be praised forever, knows that I am not lying.



Ephesians 1:3 (English-NIV)

Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ.



Colossians 1:3 (English-NIV)

We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you,



1 Peter 1:3 (English-NIV)

Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,



Ephesians 1:17 (English-NIV)

I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the Spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better.



Revelation 3:12 (KJV)



Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.



Ephesians 4:4-6



4 there is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called

5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism;

6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.





Matthew 22:36-38, King James Version (KJV)



36Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment.

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Posted : 26 Jul, 2017 01:40 PM

Profetic said:







Jesus is **WORSHIPED** many times in God's Word in Matthew 2:2,8,11; 14:33; 28:9,17 Luke 24:52 John 9:38 and Revelation 5:14 and !5:4!!







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Matthew 2:2 (PROSKUNEO) ,8 (PROSKUNEO) ,11 (PROSKUNEO) ; 14:33 (PROSKUNEO) ; 28:9 (PROSKUNEO) ,17 (PROSKUNEO) Luke 24:52 (PROSKUNEO) John 9:38 (PROSKUNEO) and Revelation 5:14 (PROSKUNEO) and !5:4 (PROSKUNEO) !!











I challenge you to find just one reference of the word latreuo, being directed toward Yahshua. Worship is reserved for YHWH!!!







It's imperative that you understand this, before a policeman asks you to step out of your car and prostrate yourself.







You must not worship him as YHWH!

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Posted : 26 Jul, 2017 01:41 PM

Profetic said:















"NOTE: Jesus is called the **LAMB** 30 times in the book of Revelation!"















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NOTE: Yahshua is referred to as the �Son of Man� 88 times in the New Testament.







GOD IS NOT A MAN, That He Should Lie, NEITHER THE SON OF MAN, That He Should Repent: Has He Said, And Will He Not Do It? Or Has He Spoken, And Will He Not Make It Good? Numbers 23:19

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Posted : 26 Jul, 2017 01:46 PM

Profetic said:







"There are some who completely ignore these Scriptures and claim that Jesus is not God because he said that the Father is greater than me in John 14L28 and that the Father told Him what to say as per John 14:23,24: Jesus says, "Anyone who loves Me will obey My teaching. My Father will love them, and We will come to them and make our home with them. Anyone who does not love Me will not obey My teaching. The words you hear are not My own; they belong to the Father who sent Me."







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How in the world did you get "Jesus is God" out of those verses?



I CHALLENGE YOU TO BACK UP YOUR BARE ASSERTION FALLACY WITH IRREFUTABLE FACT!



Let us use reason.



I've scoured the Bible countless times, over many years; and I have never seen the words "Jesus is God."







I'm convinced that they were conjured up in the imaginations of Pagan Sun worshipers. I'm convinced that this stems from Babylon. I don't say this lightly. I'd be glad to present you with my evidence; if you will review it in the spirit of sincerity and truth



Shalom

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Posted : 26 Jul, 2017 04:14 PM

Colossians 1:15-20: The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For in Him all things were created; things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things are held together. And He is the Head of the body, the church, He is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything He might have the supremacy. For God was pleased to have all His fullness dwell in Him, and through Him to reconcile to Himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace trough his blood, shed on the cross!!



Colossians 2:16,17: Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you **EAT** or drink, or regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a **SHADOW** of the things that were to come, the reality, however, is found in **CHRIST**!!



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Posted : 26 Jul, 2017 04:15 PM

Colossians 1:15-20: The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For in Him all things were created; things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things are held together. And He is the Head of the body, the church, He is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything He might have the supremacy. For God was pleased to have all His fullness dwell in Him, and through Him to reconcile to Himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace trough his blood, shed on the cross!!



Colossians 2:16,17: Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you **EAT** or drink, or regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a **SHADOW** of the things that were to come, the reality, however, is found in **CHRIST**!!



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Posted : 26 Jul, 2017 05:10 PM

Non-sequitur



Please stay on topic.



I'll interpret your silence in absence of a refutation, regarding my posts, in response to your post, as acquiescence.



Glory to YHWH!

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Posted : 26 Jul, 2017 05:25 PM

Galatians 3:23-25: "Before faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, *WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!"



*WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!



Galatians 2:14-16,20,21; 3:2,5,10-13;23-25: Paul said, When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter in front of them all, "You are a Jew, yet you live like a Gentile and not like a Jew. How is it, then that you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs? We who are Jews by birth and not 'Gentile sinners' know that a man is NOT justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified.!"



Galatians 2:20,21: The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me. I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!"



Galatians 3:10-13: "All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law." Clearly no one is justified before God by the law, because, "The righteous will live by faith." The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, "The man who does these things will live by them." Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us!



Galatians 3:23-25: "Before faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, *WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!"



Hebrews 7:18,19: The former regulation is SET ASIDE because it was weak and useless; for the law made nothing perfect, and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God.!



Hebrews 8:8,9,13: "The time is coming." says the Lord, "when I will make a New Covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah".... By calling this Covenant "NEW", He has made the first one OBSOLETE; and what is OBSOLETE and aging will soon disappear."



Hebrews 8:6: But the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which He is Mediator is SUPERIOR TO THE OLD ONE, and it is founded on better promises.



Colossians 2:16,17: Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you **EAT** or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a *SHADOW* of the things that were to come, the reality, however, is found in Christ!!!



All of the OT Sabbath laws have been eliminated. Both Jesus and His Father have declared all foods are now clean. All of the OT sacrificial and temple laws have been eliminated. All of the stoning to death laws for breaking the law have been eliminated. All of the laws concerning an eye for an eye and making oaths have been eliminated. Circumcision laws have been eliminated. Loving one another as Jesus loved us has replaced loving one another as you love yourself.



Their about 400 NT laws to be obeyed with *LOVE* in the hope of countless eternal rewards for faithful and loving service has replaced the 613 OT laws.



In the OT God ordered Israel to kill their enemies many times and God helped them do it. However in the NT Jesus commands, "Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you. If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also." Luke 6:27-29



Leviticus 26:7,8: God said to Israel, "You will pursue your enemies, and they will fall by the SWORD before you. Five of you will chase a hundred, and a hundred of you will chase ten thousand, and your enemies will fall by the SWORD before you!" Numbers 25:16,17" The Lord said to Moses, "Treat the Midianites as enemies and kill them!" etc etc



HOWEVER IN THE NEW COVENANT, JESUS SAYS, "ALL WHO DRAW THE SWORD WILL DIE BY THE SWORD!"



Jesus said to His 11 Apostles, "If you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. For it is written: "And He was numbered with the transgressors"{Isaiah 53:12} and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in Me. Yes, what is written about Me is reaching its fulfillment." The disciples said, "See Lord, here are 2 {Not 11}swords." "That is enough." Jesus replied.



Matthew 26:30-34: They seized Jesus and arrested Him. With that, one of Jesus' companions reached for his sword, drew it out and struck the servant of the high priest, cutting off his ear. "Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "For *ALL* who draw the sword will die by the sword...But how then would the Scriptures be fulfilled that say it must happen in this way?"



And so the only reason that Jesus allowed the disciples to have 2 swords was so that the Scripture in Isaiah 53:12 would be fulfilled: "He was numbered among the transgressors."



Jesus said to Pilate, "My Kingdom is not of this world. If it were, My servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jews. But **NOW** My Kingdom is from another place!"



Former OT commands in Exodus 21:23-25 "If there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise."



This was changed by these NT commands by Jesus:



Matthew 5:38,39: Jesus commands, "You have heard that it was said {In Exodus 21:23-25 above}, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.' But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek turn to him the other also!"



Luke 6:27-29: Jesus commands, "LOVE YOUR ENEMIES, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic. Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you. do not demand it back!"



Romans 12:18-21: If it is possible, as far as it DEPENDS ON YOU, LIVE AT PEACE WITH EVERYONE! Do not take revenge my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written, "It is mine to revenge, I will repay," says the Lord. On the contrary "If your enemy is hungry, feed him. If he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head" Do not be overcome by evil but OVERCOME EVIL WITH GOOD!!



2 Corinthians 10:3,4: "For though we live in the world, we do not wage war as the world does. The weapons we fight with are *NOT* the weapons of the world."



The only weapons that NT saints may use who follow the New Covenant commands of Jesus is the Sword of the Spirit which is the Word of God. A NT saint would not even think of joining the army of any nation and becoming a professional killer or defending himself with a gun. Unfortunately very few Groups such as the Amish and Mennonites still obey these sacred commands of Jesus.



I John 2:3-5: "We know that we have come to know Him if we obey His {Jesus'} commands. The man who says, "I know him," but does not do what He {Jesus} commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But if anyone obeys His Word, God's love is truly made complete in him."



The inspired words of the NT were inspired by God between AD 50 and AD 96 and the 4 Gospels were written about AD 65 And so all of the approximately 400 NT commands were not completed and in force until Around AD 96.



When you join the military and become a professional killer you must make a **VOW** that you will obey all the commands of your commanding officer. And so if He commands you to drop an Atomic Bomb that will kill about 100,000 civilians including about 25,000 innocent children you must obey this command!!!



What is the OT command concerning *VOWS* and *OATHS*?? Numbers 30:2: Moses said, "This is what the Lord commands: When a man makes a *VOW* to the Lord or takes an *OATH* to obligate himself by a pledge, he must not break his word but must do everything he said!"



What are the NT commands concerning making *VOWS* and **OATHS*??



James 5:12: "ABOVE ALL, my brothers, do not swear--not by heaven or by earth or by anything else. Let your "Yes" be yes, and your "No," no, or you will be condemned.!!"



Matthew 5:33-37: Jesus says, "You have heard that it was said to your people long ago {Numbers 30:2 above}, 'Do not break your oath, but keep the oaths you have made to the Lord.' BUT I tell you, Do not swear at all....Simply let your 'Yes' be 'Yes,' and your 'No, 'No'; anything beyond this comes from the evil one!!"



Anyone who claims that Jesus did not change OT laws is completely blind. All of the OT Sabbath laws have been eliminated. All of the OT sacrificial and temple laws have been eliminated by the eternal sacrifice for sins by Jesus. All of the stoning to death laws for breaking the law have been eliminated. All of the laws concerning killing your enemies, and eye for an eye and making oaths have been eliminated. All Circumcision laws have been eliminated. And Jesus declared that all foods are now *CLEAN*!!





Mark 7:18,19: Jesus says, "Are you so dull?" He asked. "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him 'unclean'? For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." In saying this. Jesus declared ALL FOODS "CLEAN!"



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Posted : 26 Jul, 2017 06:16 PM

Profetic said:



Galatians 3:23-25: "Before faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, *WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!"



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Sha'ul wrote that. It's a weak translation; but nonetheless he also wrote this:



Romans 3:31



Do we, then, nullify the Law through faith? Never may it be! Instead, we uphold Law.





How then do you reconcile these two verses by Sha'ul, with lawlessness?



Matthew 7:21-23



"Not everyone who says to Me, King, King, shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father (keeps His Commandments) in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, King, King, have we not prophesied in Your name, and cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name? And then will I (Yahusha) declare to them, I never knew you, depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness" (you who are without The Law of Yahweh).

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Posted : 26 Jul, 2017 07:21 PM

Hark you have quoted I John 2:4 out of context and have wrongfully claimed that it shows we should obey OT commands instead of .the commands of Jesus.



I John 2:1-5: My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an Advocate with the Father--Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. We know that we have come to know Him if we keep His commands. Whoever says, "I know Him," but does not do what He commands is a liar and the truth is not in that person. But if anyone obeys His Word, love for God is made complete in them. This is how we know we are in Him!!



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Posted : 26 Jul, 2017 07:47 PM

Prfofetic!



Now you present strawman arguments in an attempt to derail this thread?



I didn't quote I John 2:4, at least not in this thread.



Again, I ask you to please stay on topic:



Who is Yahshua's God?

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