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False Teachers and False Prophets
Posted : 29 Oct, 2012 11:40 AM

The sad fact of modern technology is that anyone with an internet connection and a keyboard can now find an audience in which to teach and promote anything that they would like. These folks would never be fit to teach or lead a congregation but thanks to blogs, forums, social media and the like they have found a place to hawk their wares.



I am issuing this as a warning to all of the Elect in Christ on these forums. The following men are false teachers/false prophets. Do not heed what they teach or promote on these forums.



LetThisMind2 :devil:

Prophetic774 :devil:

ValdeMaero :devil:



All of them have shown consistent mishandling of the Truth and an inability to rightly divide the Word of God. It has been a painful experience for me to attempt to reach out to these men and others who continue to teach contrary to the Bible. They are men who will not hear and do not receive counsel or sound doctrine. They fancy themselves "voices who cry out in the wilderness" and are unaccountable to other men of God.



It pains me to have to mark these men but I believe it is a Scriptural duty and as such I must be accountable. I deal with this here:



http://www.christiandatingforfree.com/cdff/CDFF_generic/forum/forum_details.php?topic_id=16263&forum_sub_cat_id=14



http://www.christiandatingforfree.com/cdff/CDFF_generic/forum/forum_details.php?topic_id=16273&forum_sub_cat_id=14



http://www.christiandatingforfree.com/cdff/CDFF_generic/forum/forum_details.php?topic_id=16279&forum_sub_cat_id=14



Here is a specific Biblical example of the Apostle Paul doing the very thing that I have done here in this thread. The Bible supports my actions. Notice that he names Hymen�us and Philetus by name.



2 Tim 2

15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.

17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymen�us and Philetus;

18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some

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Posted : 29 Oct, 2012 03:28 PM

Jude re-writing history does not look good on you. In fact, it makes you look manipulative just like LTM. It is not slander to call out false teachers. We see this over and over in scripture. I can give you plenty of verses if you wish. Do you deny this fact?

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Posted : 29 Oct, 2012 04:07 PM

TBN,



Wrote this scripture which includes this phrase.



(saying that the resurrection is past already; )



He wrote this about the men above counting us as false teachers.



I know I have never made such a statement and sure the others havent as well.



Can you trust the word of a man who would spread such lies?

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Posted : 29 Oct, 2012 04:15 PM

How can you in good conscience call another a liar when you know your own actions here?

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Posted : 30 Oct, 2012 06:14 PM

Revelation 22:12: Jesus says, "Behold, I am coming soon. My rewards is with Me, and I will give to everyone **ACCORDING TO WHAT HE HAS DONE**."



2 Corinthians 5:10: "For we must all appear before the Judgment Seat of Christ, that each one will receive what is due him for the things done in the body, whether good or bad."

God's Word confirms many times that **ONLY JESUS WILL JUDGE** all the lost; the living and the dead; and will reward the saints on the Day He comes **ACCORDING TO WHAT HE HAS DONE**. {See John 5:27-30; Jude 14,15, 2 Tim 4:1; Romans 2:16; Acts 10:42 & Acts 17:31 & Rev 22:12:



Acts 10:40,42: �God {The Father} raised Him {Jesus} from the dead... He commanded us to preach to the people and to testify that He is the One whom God {The Father} has appointed as Judge of the living and the dead.�



Acts 17:31: For He {The Father} **HAS SET A DAY** when He will judge the world with justice by the Man He has appointed. He has given proof of this to all men by raising Him from the dead.



2 Corinthians 5:10: For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done in the body, whether good or bad.�



Rev 22:12: Jesus says, �Behold, I am coming soon. My reward is with Me, and I will give to everyone **ACCORDING TO WHAT HE HAS DONE**.�



The pre-tribbers claim that this will occur 3 � or 7 years **BEFORE** the Last Day of the Great Tribulation right after a secret silent rapture. However in Matthew 16:27 Jesus prophesied, �The Son of Man is going to come in His Father's **GLORY WITH HIS ANGELS**, and **THEN** He will reward each person **ACCORDING TO WHAT HE HAS DONE**.� Four other times in God's Word it mentions the Second Coming of Jesus on the **LAST DAY** of the Great Tribulation in **GLORY WITH HIS ANGELS**. Matthew 24:30,31; Mark 13:26,27; Matthew 25:31 & 2 Thess 1:7



2 Thess 1:1,6-10:� �To the *CHURCH* of the Thessalonians�God is just; He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you and give relief to you who are troubled, and to us as well.� This will happen *WHEN* the Lord Jesus is *REVEALED* {See I Peter 1:13} from heaven in blazing fire **WITH HIS POWERFUL ANGELS**. He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.� They will be punished with everlasting *DESTRUCTION* and shut out from the presence of the Lord *ON THE DAY HE COMES* to be glorified in His holy people!!�



Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: �**WHEN** the Son of Man {The Lamb} comes in His GLORY, and **ALL HIS ANGELS WITH HIM**, He will sit on **HIS THRONE** in Heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him and He will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on His right and the goats on the left.�



�*THEN* the King will say to those on the right, �Come you who are blessed by My Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world.� {The New Jerusalem with its New Heaven and New Earth�See Rev 21:1-5 & 2 Peter 3:10-13}



�**THEN* He will say to those on His left, �Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.� ....�*THEN* they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.�



Revelation 20:11-15: Then I saw a great white **THRONE**{Matt 25:31} and Him {Jesus-Matt 25:31 & Acts 17:31} who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled away from His presence {See 2 Pet 3:10 & Rev 21:1} And I saw the dead standing before the **THRONE**{Matt 25:31}, and the books were opened. Another Book was opened, which is the {Lamb's} Book of Life. The dead were judged **ACCORDING TO WHAT THEY HAD DONE**{Matt 25:35-40} as recorded in the Books. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged **ACCORDING TO WHAT HE HAS DONE**{Matt 25:41-45}. Then death and Hades were thrown into the Lake of Fire. If anyone's name was not found in the {Lamb's} Book of Life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.�{See Matt 25:41!}



So God's Word definitely shows that only Jesus will reward His saints and judge the lost on the Last Day when He comes **IN GLORY WITH ALL HIS ANGELS**{Matthew 16:27; 24:29,30; 25:31} or **WHEN HE IS REVEALED FROM HEAVEN WITH HIS POWERFUL ANGELS**:angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel: as per 2 Thessalonians 1:1,6-10!!:applause:

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Posted : 31 Oct, 2012 06:36 AM

I like the rest of the chapter you quoted, especially 24-26. Before we label people false prophets, we must be able to view their fruits and motives more directly, and since it is an online forum, I doubt that is possible. I think we need to focus on if we ourselves are fully purged of these "vessels of dishonor" mentioned here so that we are free from the domination of sin/pride, can know and understand truth and clearly and meekly discern a person's heart. If we aren't, we could very well be guilty of our own condemnation, so we should be careful how we judge others, in case we end up being judged the same way. I'm not saying we can't combat what we view as a false teachings, but in all things CHARITY and meekness. Every person is in a personal walk with God, and just because they do not meet our standard of knowledge/truth at this point in time, it doesn't make them a false prophet.



< 2 Timothy 2 >

King James Version

20But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour. 21If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work. 22Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart. 23But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes. 24And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, 25In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; 26And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

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Posted : 31 Oct, 2012 06:38 AM

You may not always be able to definitively see fruit over the internet. However you can surely see a lack of it.

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Posted : 31 Oct, 2012 06:48 AM

You're right. These are beautiful fruits, humility/mercy/meekness/love, and I think those fruits are more important than knowing all truth.



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<< 1 Corinthians 13 >>

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1Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. 2And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. 3And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

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Posted : 31 Oct, 2012 06:49 AM

Knowing truth is how we know the importance of those fruits in the first place :)

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Posted : 31 Oct, 2012 07:26 AM

Amen! I was referring to ALL truth, in that I do not believe every christian must agree on everything and whoever doesn't is a false prophet. I'm not entirely aware of what "false teachings" TBK is saying were being proliferated, but I assume it's something to do with free will and predestination if I know this forum at all:ROFL:. I haven't been here in awhile, but I put my time in.:dancingp:



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Posted : 31 Oct, 2012 07:48 AM

Well that is one of the issues. It goes to the very heart of who gets the glory for the believer's salvation. TBK and I have seen many willfully twist scripture in order to deny the doctrines of grace. However there have been plenty of other false teachings. For instance, LTM thinks it's okay to promote teachings that have no scriptural backing, as long as he deems them practical.

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