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A fun quiz!Posted : 6 Aug, 2013 11:02 AMMal. 1:3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness. |
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DontHitThatMark
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A fun quiz!Posted : 8 Aug, 2013 07:45 AMYou do understand the concept of a bible writer quoting various portions of the bible though, right? A quote from Genesis is not the same quote that is from Malachi. And from both instances, where God is talking prophetically, Paul is talking corporately about the children of Israel and the children of Esau, and comparing them to the children of the promise. But either way, claiming this as support should actually invalidate the claims of predestination for salvation, since Israel was "elected" yet cut off because of unbelief, and the gentiles grafted into the election because they did believe. |
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A fun quiz!Posted : 8 Aug, 2013 08:01 AMI am sorry but I must have missed where you believe I quoted from Genesis. Listen, I've read the whole "corporate" argument. Matter of fact, I have a 500+ page thesis sitting right here on my laptop that attempts to prove your BORROWED argument. It's also been totally refuted by another writer. I have that refutation sitting on the same laptop. Both the thesis and the response are written at an academic level. In other words, they will be WAY past your current understanding. I've read both. In addition, I have done hours and hours of my own research and a thorough study on the subject in question. So, I at least have a fairly informed understanding of this subject. |
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A fun quiz!Posted : 8 Aug, 2013 08:16 AMAnd way to rip that passage out from it's context in Peter. :laugh: |
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DontHitThatMark
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A fun quiz!Posted : 8 Aug, 2013 08:51 AMSo education determines ability to discern truth? I suppose we'll go back to yet another dark age mentality where only the "educated" people get to read the bible and tell us what the truth is. I suppose by that logic, you agree with all the "educated" people in our current academic environment, which say that God is not responsible for creation and imply that God doesn't even exist? I mean, I'm not even close to the level of a well-educated scientist, who's to say they're wrong? Don't they refute creationists all the time in their peer-reviewed scientific papers? And I didn't mean to say that you quoted genesis, I meant that Paul quoted Genesis and Malachi in the same chapter. |
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teach_ib
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A fun quiz!Posted : 8 Aug, 2013 08:12 PMThere is no humor in people making mockery of God's Word or others. |
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A fun quiz!Posted : 9 Aug, 2013 03:47 AM"There is no humor in people making mockery of God's Word " - I couldn't agree more. That is why I created this simple object lesson so that it would be totally clear how some MOCK the written Word of God with their antics and responses. |
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teach_ib
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A fun quiz!Posted : 9 Aug, 2013 05:40 AMThere is no humor in people making mockery of God's Word or others. |
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A fun quiz!Posted : 9 Aug, 2013 05:46 AMWhat you call a "mockery of others", I call "a simple object lesson so that it would be totally clear how some MOCK the written Word of God with their antics and responses. " |
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A fun quiz!Posted : 9 Aug, 2013 07:42 AMI walk alone |
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teach_ib
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A fun quiz!Posted : 9 Aug, 2013 05:07 PMNo one forces you to participate in these forums. That is your choice. |
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