:waving:...I have started my own Thread not in defense of me�for I need none�The LORD is my defense and Truth is Truth�let the people decide for I am asked not to interact or make comments on this persons posts or articles�.xo
"This generation will not pass away until all these things have happened" in Matthew 24:34 explained!!
Posted : Posted : 20 Aug, 2013 07:52 AM
According to google ar.voicefive.com is a comp. virus. Again, what's that have to do with anything in this post?
Also, since you like to twist and manipulate things, please explain where I said the Word of God was irrelevant? I said that nothing in your entire cut and paste post was relevant to the point that we are NOT the 14th generation.
Now, I am formally and publicly requesting that you do not interact with me here any further. This would include any more comments on my posts or articles.
FOR THE RECORD
An Open Letter - To All Of Those Whom I have Interacted With Here
Posted : Posted : 17 Aug, 2013 12:10 PM
Brothers and Sisters,
I know that some of you have been hurt and/or negatively impacted by previous interactions with you in these forums. For this, I would like to openly and publicly apologize.
I believe that our Most Sovereign Lord has brought all of our paths together here for His purposes. At times, crossing paths with some of the individual members here has brought out some of the ugliness that still exists inside my own heart. It's a most blessed mirror that God has caused me to look into and to see my own reflection more clearly.
For all of the knowledge and wisdom of the Bible that our precious Father has granted me, I am afraid that I still face a major deficit of charity and love towards others but most especially those with whom I disagree. By God's grace and mercy, I pray that this might not continue to be the case in the future.
Thank you...LTM...Michael...I made a comment on TC's post..."They cant help what they do...they have bought the depraved doctrine"....the Holy Spirit called me on my sarcasm...So YES!!!...I am sorry for that...just because the heat of the moment is bad doesn't mean I have to play into it...and I did...and that's My Bad...I learned that's what the spirit of discord does...and its not pretty...
As for my post in the Morals section...It isn't about IWA...its about people in general...and how they act when in such dis~ease...and why they do�.anyone of us can have it...dis~ease�that is the point of the post...there are many souls tortured�these are the ones that really need the Gospel�
For the Record...I've not read any of the posts this person writes since he asked me to not interact with him�which is silly because�it�s a Open Forum and anyone can participate�So I've just skipped over them and the comments...I do not care what he thinks of me....nor do I care what he says about me...Its all been done before�and each time�well�I�ll just leave that in GOD�s hands�xo
I've been here a long time, and I've been called a heretic, unsaved, a son of Satan, a false teacher, an unbeliever, cult member, blind, etc. I know exactly from which "side" and from what character type that those insults come from, and I've seen them used many times on other people, to the point where those people break and retaliate, and I've probably done it myself, but name calling is not justified by name calling. LTM can witness to that, he was banned in the past for retaliation, and rightly so. But I have to point out, that "accusers of the brethren" are the ones responsible for sowing discord to begin with, and a moment of weakness by someone who is truly attempting to be loving/civil does not constitute so much hypocrisy as those who begin the accusations in the first place, against the will of God. It's one thing to imply someone is ignorant or stupid, and yes, that violates site policy, but implying that one can judge and condemn and mock the salvation status of another believer of Christ violates God's policy. And just for the record, I'd recommend that everyone on the forums takes a few minutes to read what they're about to post like they're the person to whom they're responding. Consider their temperament and their personality, and edit anything that is or can be perceived as an direct/personal insult. Other than that, if one is behaving in a certain way, and someone else describes that behavior, I don't think that can be considered an insult as much as an observation, and I hope that we can understand that as Christians, it's for reproof and correction, and not always out of anger or bitterness.
I'd say the biggest problem is that some think they can tell who is a brother and who isn't simply by the fact that they might disagree on some points of doctrine, or that they are the only holders of the oracles of truth with nothing left to learn. I don't think that's healthy for the body of Christ. The only way to tell if someone is serving Christ is by their fruits, not by their knowledge. In the last days, God calls His people OUT of Babylon, meaning that they ARE in Babylon. How can God's people be in Babylon/confusion? Because they are deceived doctrines of men. Does that mean they aren't God's people? If someone tells me that I worship a different God than the One that died on the cross for me(there's only One God that did that), does that make it true?
King James Bible
1Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations. 2For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. 3Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him. 4Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
5One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. 6He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks. 7For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself. 8For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's. 9For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.
10But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. 11For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. 12So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
1 Corinthians 13:8
8 Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away.
Matthew 7:15-20
15 �Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep�s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.
"Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves."
"Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost."
:bouncy:Right now, I publicly declare Jesus as Lord of all creation. The One that gave His life is Lord of my life. I am a believer and a follower, baptized into His death. My life testifies to that fact, it is transformed by His grace. I might not know every piece of truth, but the word that was brought to me thru His scripture is where I search for God's voice. If He wants to reveal more truth and enable me to receive it, that's His business, not a man's.
"I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come."
9 And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:
10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
Maybe everybody should read this parable and pray the publican's prayer before every forum post.
"As for my post in the Morals section...It isn't about IWA." :ribbit:
Anyone who believes that, please let me know. I've got a nice piece of property for sale in the everglades that you might be interested in buying.
I have and still do interact on other forums and internet groups on a regular basis. I have never seen such continuous mishandling and outright twisting of Scripture as I see on the forums here daily. It is literally disgusting. :ribbit: However, what's even worse is that there are less than a handful of members here who really do destroy the entire tone and environment for all of the rest because they are so hell bent on displaying pure hatred for anything that looks like, smells like, or tastes like John Calvin. ( and yes, I know "Calvin killed Servetus xo)
" It's one thing to imply someone is ignorant or stupid, and yes, that violates site policy, but implying that one can judge and condemn and mock the salvation status of another believer of Christ violates God's policy."
Actually, what truly violates God's policy (as you put it) is consistently destroying His character, misrepresenting Him, misrepresenting His attributes, undermining His Sovereignty, undermining His purposes for man, undermining His purposes for His Elect, undermining His purposes in salvation, and so on. There is NO fear of God in those who do such things here daily.
Actually, what truly violates God's policy is consistently insisting that He is not who He reveals Himself to be to such a point where the one reading can barely recognize Him anymore.
Actually, what truly violates God's policy is consistently mangling and wrongly dividing His Word to the point where it's barely recognizable anymore.
Those who do such things here on a daily basis are not only ignorant and stupid -- they are also FOOLISH and WICKED!
I am rejecting everything that �changes the truth of God for a lie, and denies Jesus Christ as our only Sovereign and Lord (Jude 4).�
I am rejecting anything which would rise up and call itself a Gospel which is no gospel at all.
I reject anything which exalts man to a place and position where he ought not to be, and decreases the grace of Christ.
I reject anything which makes God a cosmic bell-hop tending to the commands and demands of sinful men as another gospel.
I reject anything which removes God�s sovereignty to place man as the Sovereign as another gospel.
I reject anything which denies the sovereign decrees of God and His electing grace to put salvation into the hands of sinful men as another gospel.
I reject anything which denies man�s total depravity and exalts his fictitious free will as another gospel.
I reject anything which places the perseverance of man to glory in the incapable hands of a sinful man as another gospel.
I reject anything which endeavors to treat God as the great Grandfather in the sky beckoning and pleading with man to be saved as changing the true God into a pitiable wimp. This is another Gospel.
I reject anything which denies the atonement of Christ for what it is; a substitutionary atonement on behalf of the elect. If we deny this, we deny the Gospel.
I reject anything which makes the cross less than definite salvation for the elect, as another Gospel.
I reject anything which is contrary to the Gospel of Jesus Christ as it is preached by Christ in His Word. It is to these Calvinistic doctrines and teachings which all Biblical Christians hold. It is these Calvinistic doctrines of grace which wild horses could in no way drag from me. Especially the wonderful doctrine of Christ�s atonement for His people.
And what does Paul say about those who preach, teach, and believe another Gospel? Galatians 1:8 is emphatic, �If we, or an angel from heaven, preach to you any other Gospel than what we have preached, let him be anathema, (or accursed.)� They are not slapped on the wrist and sent to their heavenly rooms. They are cast into the deepest, darkest, hottest section of hell for perverting the truth of God�s Word. We see that the Gospel is something to contend about, and is something we need to be right about."
I imagine that a similar kind of rhetoric began the dark ages and the persecution of God's church. I've asked this before, but what is this gospel that you speak of and how are people who believe in "free will" violating God's gospel and/or character? If it's the gospel that is in the bible, "the revelation of Jesus Christ", it would be that Jesus, the Son of God, died for sinners. Look at the example of Phillip and the Eunuch. What exactly did the Eunuch have to affirm before Phillip would baptize him?
And for the record, every single thing you just said, I could say about your beliefs, because you "reject" what I affirm to be the truth from scripture shown to me by God, but I don't. All I can do for you is to try to warn and reason with you and pray that you will continue to develop a character like Christ's, because I know that I could have it just as wrong as I think you do. Thank God the pure gospel is so simple to understand, and thank God it's all we need to know for God to work on us.
I guess the point of contention I have with you lies in this: Do you think that Godsjude, or LTM, or TruthCarrier, or myself, is lost and reprobate simply because of the belief in free will? Or do you affirm that accepting the simple/plain gospel that Jesus died for our sins is enough to be considered children of God? I just confessed that Jesus is Lord, which apparently I couldn't do except thru the Holy Spirit, and at the end of the day, the rest of it is God's mysterious work. I honestly think you need an experience like Paul, where God has to step in and ask you how it feels to kick against the goads, perhaps then you will be able to be a bit more merciful, a bit more humble, and feel a bit more like you don't know it all yet. Keep an ear open.
I am rejecting everything that �changes the truth of God for a lie, and denies Jesus Christ as our only Sovereign and Lord (Jude 4).�
I am rejecting anything which would rise up and call itself a Gospel which is no gospel at all.
I reject anything which exalts man to a place and position where he ought not to be, and decreases the grace of Christ.
I reject anything which makes God a cosmic bell-hop tending to the commands and demands of sinful men as another gospel.
I reject anything which removes God�s sovereignty to place man as the Sovereign as another gospel.
I reject anything which denies the sovereign decrees of God and His electing grace to put salvation into the hands of sinful men as another gospel.
I reject anything which denies man�s total depravity and exalts his fictitious free will as another gospel.
I reject anything which places the perseverance of man to glory in the incapable hands of a sinful man as another gospel.
I reject anything which endeavors to treat God as the great Grandfather in the sky beckoning and pleading with man to be saved as changing the true God into a pitiable wimp. This is another Gospel.
I reject anything which denies the atonement of Christ for what it is; a substitutionary atonement on behalf of the elect. If we deny this, we deny the Gospel.
I reject anything which makes the cross less than definite salvation for the elect, as another Gospel.
I reject anything which is contrary to the Gospel of Jesus Christ as it is preached by Christ in His Word. It is to these Calvinistic doctrines and teachings which all Biblical Christians hold. It is these Calvinistic doctrines of grace which wild horses could in no way drag from me. Especially the wonderful doctrine of Christ�s atonement for His people.
And what does Paul say about those who preach, teach, and believe another Gospel? Galatians 1:8 is emphatic, �If we, or an angel from heaven, preach to you any other Gospel than what we have preached, let him be anathema, (or accursed.)� They are not slapped on the wrist and sent to their heavenly rooms. They are cast into the deepest, darkest, hottest section of hell for perverting the truth of God�s Word. We see that the Gospel is something to contend about, and is something we need to be right about."
