3 They say, If a man put away his wife, and she go from him, and become another man's, shall he return unto her again? shall not that land be greatly polluted? but thou hast played the harlot with many lovers; yet return again to me, saith the Lord.
2 Lift up thine eyes unto the high places, and see where thou hast not been lien with. In the ways hast thou sat for them, as the Arabian in the wilderness; and thou hast polluted the land with thy whoredoms and with thy wickedness.
3 Therefore the showers have been withholden, and there hath been no latter rain; and thou hadst a w-h-o-r-e's forehead, thou refusedst to be ashamed.
4 Wilt thou not from this time cry unto me, My father, thou art the guide of my youth?
5 Will he reserve his anger for ever? will he keep it to the end? Behold, thou hast spoken and done evil things as thou couldest.
6 The Lord said also unto me in the days of Josiah the king, Hast thou seen that which backsliding Israel hath done? she is gone up upon every high mountain and under every green tree, and there hath played the harlot.
7 And I said after she had done all these things, Turn thou unto me. But she returned not. And her treacherous sister Judah saw it.
8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.
9 And it came to pass through the lightness of her whoredom, that she defiled the land, and committed adultery with stones and with stocks.
10 And yet for all this her treacherous sister Judah hath not turned unto me with her whole heart, but feignedly, saith the Lord.
11 And the Lord said unto me, The backsliding Israel hath justified herself more than treacherous Judah.
12 Go and proclaim these words toward the north, and say, Return, thou backsliding Israel, saith the Lord; and I will not cause mine anger to fall upon you: for I am merciful, saith the Lord, and I will not keep anger for ever.
13 Only acknowledge thine iniquity, that thou hast transgressed against the Lord thy God, and hast scattered thy ways to the strangers under every green tree, and ye have not obeyed my voice, saith the Lord.
14 Turn, O backsliding children, saith the Lord; for I am married unto you: and I will take you one of a city, and two of a family, and I will bring you to Zion:
15 And I will give you pastors according to mine heart, which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding.
16 And it shall come to pass, when ye be multiplied and increased in the land, in those days, saith the Lord, they shall say no more, The ark of the covenant of the Lord: neither shall it come to mind: neither shall they remember it; neither shall they visit it; neither shall that be done any more.
17 At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the Lord; and all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of the Lord, to Jerusalem: neither shall they walk any more after the imagination of their evil heart.
18 In those days the house of Judah shall walk with the house of Israel, and they shall come together out of the land of the north to the land that I have given for an inheritance unto your fathers.
19 But I said, How shall I put thee among the children, and give thee a pleasant land, a goodly heritage of the hosts of nations? and I said, Thou shalt call me, My father; and shalt not turn away from me.
20 Surely as a wife treacherously departeth from her husband, so have ye dealt treacherously with me, O house of Israel, saith the Lord.
21 A voice was heard upon the high places, weeping and supplications of the children of Israel: for they have perverted their way, and they have forgotten the Lord their God.
22 Return, ye backsliding children, and I will heal your backslidings. Behold, we come unto thee; for thou art the Lord our God.
23 Truly in vain is salvation hoped for from the hills, and from the multitude of mountains: truly in the Lord our God is the salvation of Israel.
24 For shame hath devoured the labour of our fathers from our youth; their flocks and their herds, their sons and their daughters.
25 We lie down in our shame, and our confusion covereth us: for we have sinned against the Lord our God, we and our fathers, from our youth even unto this day, and have not obeyed the voice of the Lord our God.
So I did not say anyone posted 10+ topics, I said they are posting enough to knock topics off the front page. As I looked back over the pages of 10 topics per page, there are multiple sets of 10 where either IWA, DLJM, or Halfback posted 8 of the 10 on the page.
With the exception of the last week or so, as I looked over the last 45 or so pages, I found that DLJM was the most prolific OP, most recently only 2 or 3 but up to 6 on three consecutive pages. The next most prolific OP was IWA averaging 2 to 4 per page. Then Truthcarrier and Halfback come in with 1-3 on average.
The others Jude, LTM, DHTM, Teach, McCubed, Prophet, we're more sporadic in OPs. Teach had a high of 5 and Jude had the high of 7...one time but for the most part they only had OPs scattered throughout the 10 per page.
So I stand by my statement. I'm a numbers person...I love spreadsheets!
You may love spreadsheets. However, it is clear that you do NOT love truth.
Again, Jude w/ your help has been the only one to intentionally post several threads in a row for the express purpose of pushing other members threads to the next page. This was a childish and deliberate action.
Here are your claims again:
""there are extensive numbers of posts by the same individuals when the discussion doesn't seem to be going their way.""
""It's very clear that the excessive copying and pasting of men's dissertations or individual's interpretations is to knock discussions off the front page.""
"Double standards...he's revealing his own hypocrisy. Twisting & inserting words as he pleases in attempting to appear to be copying & pasting other's posts. "
You have no way to back any of your claims so you are reduced to slithering around all over the place. :devil:
A quick review of the last 100 threads showed that you had an average of 1.1 threads per 10 or 11% overall and I had an average of 1.8 threads per 10 or 18% overall. Hardly, a very noteworthy difference. Again, you suffer from continuously moving the goal posts.
Jude - 8 in a row, followed by Teach's 2 for a grand total of 10! Intentionally pushing the other member's threads off from the first page. Now, you two can go on denying your actions but once again the facts do not support you.
"Hey Mark, Back your claims. Show where "them" has started 10+ threads to push another members post off the front page."
I made no such claim, I was suggesting there was hypocritical behavior and offering advice to people who might be inclined to respond to your offensive comments.
"If Teach is trying to reveal your hypocrisy, she's doing a great job."
Your claim is deducible from this claim. I have now backed my claim. Time to put up or shut up Mark.
:nahnah:
Kind sir, I was speaking of behavioral responses to what is going on in this post, not what you were literally arguing about. And like you already determined, you do post more than Teach, so even your "backed up claim" about whatever you decided "my claim" was about does not hold water. You apparently do post just as much and more than her, and Donna posts quite a good amount more than both of you, so you are hypocritical in complaining about one. But either way, I have no problem with you pointing out someone spamming if they actually are, and honestly, I have no problem with you complaining about someone else doing it even if you are, because you are right about one thing, there are people here that post meaningless spam that most are tired of viewing. If you're posting lots of things and someone else is posting a lot of things, and you condemn them for it without looking at yourself, that is hypocrisy, but it was NOT the hypocrisy I was speaking of.
I was speaking of the hypocrisy in the way that you can "read" the hearts and minds of those you converse with, and tell them what they were meaning/thinking even when they deny it, yet call everyone else vile and disgusting liars when they dare try to read your motives or meaning.
Yes, you're probably a hypocrite twice, and yes I was talking about hypocrisy, but not the kind you thought, so stand up or sit down, I don't care. I know what I meant, God knows what I meant, and you apparently do not. Shocking, I know. What's funny is that you just did all that in your responses to me.:winksmile: Thanks for helping me prove my point!
Perhaps Teach is not right about you and Donna posting things to knock topics off the main page, or whatever the "argument" is about, and perhaps you both are trying to step into each others minds and guess at the motives involved, but she is FAR more respectful than you are. I can see how you both react when you're opposed.
Galatians 5
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Paul must have forgotten to include the fruit of "being right" and "knowing everything" and "lie detection".
Kind sir, I was speaking of behavioral responses to what is going on in this post, not what you were literally arguing about. And like you already determined, you do post more than Teach, so even your "backed up claim" about whatever you decided "my claim" was about does not hold water. You apparently do post just as much and more than her, and Donna posts quite a good amount more than both of you, so you are hypocritical in complaining about one. But either way, I have no problem with you pointing out someone spamming if they actually are, and honestly, I have no problem with you complaining about someone else doing it even if you are, because you are right about one thing, there are people here that post meaningless spam that most are tired of viewing. If you're posting lots of things and someone else is posting a lot of things, and you condemn them for it without looking at yourself, that is hypocrisy, but it was NOT the hypocrisy I was speaking of.
SADLY MARK, YOU HAVE FALLEN INTO THE PIT WHICH TEACH DUG. PROVING ONE OF MY POINTS. I COULD CARE LESS WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE POSTS ARE ORIGINATED BY WHOM. THIS WAS TEACHES DIVERSION AWAY FROM MY MAIN POINT. YOU FELL FOR IT. I DID NOT.
I was speaking of the hypocrisy in the way that you can "read" the hearts and minds of those you converse with, and tell them what they were meaning/thinking even when they deny it, yet call everyone else vile and disgusting liars when they dare try to read your motives or meaning.
ANYONE WITH COMMON SENSE AND A KNOWLEDGE OF HISTORY HERE KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. I DON'T NEED TO HAVE A SPECIAL SKILL OF "READING THE HEARTS AND MINDS". THE BEHAVIOR IS OBVIOUS. SO TOO IS THE LYING.
Yes, you're probably a hypocrite twice, and yes I was talking about hypocrisy, but not the kind you thought, so stand up or sit down, I don't care. I know what I meant, God knows what I meant, and you apparently do not. Shocking, I know. What's funny is that you just did all that in your responses to me. Thanks for helping me prove my point!
FAIL! (SEE ABOVE)
Perhaps Teach is not right about you and Donna posting things to knock topics off the main page, or whatever the "argument" is about, and perhaps you both are trying to step into each others minds and guess at the motives involved, but she is FAR more respectful than you are. I can see how you both react when you're opposed.
PERHAPS? :laugh: MORE RESPECTFUL? YOU DEFINE REPETITIVE LYING AND TWISTING OF THE FACTS TO BE RESPECTFUL? OR DIVERTING THE ARGUMENT WITH INTENTIONAL STRAW MEN TO BE RESPECTFUL? (THIS IS A COMMON TEACH TACTIC..BTW.)
Paul must have forgotten to include the fruit of "being right" and "knowing everything" and "lie detection".
RIGHT IS RIGHT MARK. THERE IS NO SHAME IN ESTABLISHING THE TRUTH.
" there are people here that post meaningless spam that most are tired of viewing."
STEP UP AND SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT. QUIT BEING LOPSIDED IN YOUR CRITICISMS.
CAPS were only used to separate my comments from yours. I was NOT yelling at you. I am stating my intention plainly so it will not be misread. :winksmile:
