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Could someone expound please
Posted : 10 Nov, 2012 06:05 AM

Hi there,



I've seen this Scripture quoted many times, if someone is able to expound on it's meaning to help me gain understanding I'd be grateful.



Matthew 11:12 "And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force."



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Jacquie

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Could someone expound please
Posted : 12 Nov, 2012 12:27 PM

* what I NOW believe to be the true meaning of this passage

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Could someone expound please
Posted : 12 Nov, 2012 01:17 PM

That seems a bit of a stretch to me though, and even more so when you take Luke 16:16 into consideration, if they're supposed to be saying the same thing that is. I don't know. It didn't seem that hard to understand, but now it does!:laugh:



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Could someone expound please
Posted : 12 Nov, 2012 01:37 PM

Mark, here is the transliterated Hebrew. As you can see in both passages "chazaqah" is being referred to.



Matt 11: 12

umiymey Yahuchanan haMat�bil w�`ad-henah mal�kuth hashamayim nith�p�sah b�yad chazaqah w�hamith�chaz�qiym yach�t�phuah



Luke 16:16

haTorah w�haN�biy�iym nit�nu `ad-Yahuchanan umin-�az wahal�ah b�sorath mal�kuth ha�Elohim w�kal-�iysh b�yad chazaqah yabo� bah.

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Posted : 13 Nov, 2012 05:40 AM

I understand, but one word doesn't change the whole meaning of a sentence all by itself. It just seems to me like it's talking about two different groups, and I don't think it can be very accurate to use Hebrew or Hebrew meanings on words that were written in Greek.



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