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Admin	Doctrines of man's theology Posted : 31 Dec, 2012 04:34 AM Define God's word. The God of the word does not act have an attribute of wrath. Seems as though some are referring to Satan As God, and he is but it is far better not even a comparison to know the one true God, the father of the lord Jesus Christ. Post Reply
View Profile History	Doctrines of man's theology Posted : 1 Jan, 2013 04:02 PM Let's stay focused and not make this into something it is not. Own your words please. I was responding to the questions you asked. You clearly implied that we don't really know what God's wrath actually looks like. I even just gave you an example. I'm not sure why that's not good enough and why you would rather make this about personal attacks on me. If you still aren't getting your questions answered then maybe you should do as I've already suggested and clarify what you are asking because you are being extremely vague and contradictory. Post Reply
View Profile History	Doctrines of man's theology Posted : 1 Jan, 2013 04:06 PM I have asked my questions and had my say now it is time to move some other way. Be blessed all......... Post Reply
View Profile History	Doctrines of man's theology Posted : 1 Jan, 2013 04:08 PM I think so Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	Doctrines of man's theology Posted : 4 Jan, 2013 09:42 AM I've never seen the bible say "God is wrath". I believe that the wrath of God exists only as long as sin exists, so technically, wrath is not part of God's nature any more than sin is, since it doesn't exist without sin. I think the metaphor of God "filling up" and "pouring out" a cup of wrath(not a wrath cup) is indicative of that, since once the wrath is poured out, the cup is empty of wrath. Wrath is only God's character's reaction to sin, and in that sense, not an attribute built into his character. God is eternally righteous, not eternally wrathful. God is wrathful toward any unrighteousness or sin because He is righteous, but when sin ceases to exist, so does the wrath against it. Wrath is a reaction, not an attribute. "An oath is for solemn confirmation: Hebrews 6:16. In Genesis 22:16 God said, "By Myself have I sworn." In Psalm 89:35 He declares, "Once have I sworn by My holiness." While in Psalm 95:11 He affirmed, "I swear in My wrath." Thus the great Jehovah Himself appeals to His "wrath" as a perfection equal to His "holiness": He swares by the one as much as by the other!" The Attributes of God by A.W. Pink 16. The Wrath of God That has got to be one of the silliest self-decided arguments I've ever heard. This doctrine of wrath basically infers that God is impotent and insecure. I believe God will make a complete destruction of sin, and when sin is destroyed, God's wrath is gone. It is not part of his character, it is a reaction of his character. I understand that many believe the wicked receive eternal life in hell, so the only difference between the reward of the righteous and the wicked is their location and therefore God will be practicing his wrath on sin forever, but I don't believe that is biblical at all. Only weak-minded bullies get any satisfaction from constant anger or tormenting people continually like they have something to prove. Sin and sinners will be totally destroyed, sin will not be existing in a magical location where sinners get to live forever. God's wrath will be completed and poured out. The punishment of the wicked, the execution of God's wrath, is referred to as "God's strange act", because it only happens while sin exists. Nahum 1 "What do ye imagine against the LORD? he will make an utter end: affliction shall not rise up the second time." Isaiah 28 "For the Lord shall rise up as in mount Perazim, he shall be wroth as in the valley of Gibeon, that he may do his work, his strange work; and bring to pass his act, his strange act. Now therefore be ye not mockers, lest your bands be made strong: for I have heard from the Lord God of hosts of a consumption, even determined upon the whole earth." http://www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/study-guide/e/4987/t/Are-The-Dead-Really-Dead.aspx http://www.champs-of-truth.com/lessons/tract_12a.htm http://www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/media/e/785/t/fate-of-the-wicked.aspx :peace::peace: Post Reply
View Profile History	Doctrines of man's theology Posted : 4 Jan, 2013 10:28 AM So basically anything anyone does can be seen as a reaction to their character and not their character? Why are we acting as if wrath is some type of evil? Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	Doctrines of man's theology Posted : 4 Jan, 2013 05:57 PM A reaction OF their character. Wrath is not evil, but having a wrathful character is. Wrath in the bible is always temporary and conditional, pointed directly at the thing causing the discord, and it disappears when the sinful act is punished or forgiven. It is not an attribute of his character, it is a reaction of his character. When sin is gone, God's wrath will be gone. I'm not saying wrath is bad, I'm just saying that it is not part of who God is, I believe it's part of what he does because of who he is. :peace::peace: Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	Doctrines of man's theology Posted : 4 Jan, 2013 06:13 PM "So basically anything anyone does can be seen as a reaction to their character and not their character?" Just for clarification, I did not say that. God has love and God is love. I just think it's unfair to say "God has wrath, and God is wrath". I'd be willing to recant if there were a verse that said otherwise, but from what I see, God's wrath is very temporary and conditional, and his wrath will be gone when sin is gone. It's a reaction, not a continual and permanent attribute of his character. :peace::peace: Post Reply
View Profile History	Doctrines of man's theology Posted : 4 Jan, 2013 11:56 PM Love and wrath can not dwell together. Wrath is not the plan of God but man's decision, spiritual laws bring the harvest. There is no Death in life any more than darkness in light. Post Reply
View Profile History	Doctrines of man's theology Posted : 5 Jan, 2013 01:54 AM So it is OF their character correct? Post Reply
View Profile History	Doctrines of man's theology Posted : 5 Jan, 2013 01:55 AM Actually wrath was always in God's plan... Post Reply

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