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*IS JOYCE MEYER A FALSE TEACHER AND PREACHER*?
Posted : 16 Oct, 2018 05:54 PM
**IS JOYCE MEYER A FALSE TEACHER AND PREACHER**??
Her now-unavailable taped message, �What Happened from the Cross to The Throne?� Joyce Meyer continued to teach the �Born-Again Jesus� doctrine. In this message, Meyer claims to have received the Baptism of the Spirit and sometime afterward felt a strange �flipping and turning� insider her body (stomach). She claimed that this experience led to a greater understanding of salvation and a greater revelation of Jesus� �spirit death� in hell and by so doing went to hell for all believers. Meyer, like many others in the Charismatic movement, believes that Jesus suffered in hell under the power of demons who beat Him and jumped all over Him; even though there is no Biblical evidence for this belief.
**WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??
I Peter 2:24,25: He Himself **BORE OUR SINS** in His body on the tree, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness, by **HIS WOUNDS** we are healed {See Isaiah 53:5,6}!!
Isaiah 53:5,6: But He was pierced for our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon Him, and by His wounds we are healed! We all, like sheep, have gone astray , each of us has turned to his own way, and **THE LORD HAS LAID ON HIM THE INIQUITY OF US ALL**!!
John 19:30: Just before His death on the Cross Jesus said, "**IT IS FINISHED**!!"
Joyce Meyer also claimed that she **NO LONGER SINS** in the same taped message:
�I�m going to tell you something folks, I didn�t stop sinning until I finally got it through my thick head I wasn�t a sinner anymore. And the religious world thinks that�s heresy and they want to hang you for it. But the Bible says that I�m righteous and I can�t be righteous and be a sinner at the same time � All I was ever taught to say was, �I�m a poor, miserable sinner.� I am not poor, I am not miserable and I am not a sinner. That is a lie from the pit of hell. That is what I was and if I still am then Jesus died in vain. Amen?�
**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??
**WHAT DO WE DO WHEN WE ARE TEMPTED BY SIN**??
Hebrews 4:14-16: Since we have a High Priest who has ascended into heaven. Jesus, the Son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess. For we do not have a High Priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have One who has been **TEMPTED** in every way, just as we are--yet without sin. Let us then approach the throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need!!
Hebrews 2:18: Because He Himself suffered when He was **TEMPTED**, He is able to help those who are being **TEMPTED**!!
James 1:13-15: When **TEMPTED**, no one should say, "God is tempting me." For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He tempt anyone, but each person is **TEMPTED** when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed. Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin!
I Corinthians 10:13: No **TEMPTATION** has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful, He will not allow you to be **TEMPTED** beyond what you can bear. But when you are **TEMPTED**, He will also provide a way out so that you can endure it!
**HOWEVER, WE ARE COMMANDED TO WALK AS JESUS WALKED {SEE JOHN 2:6} AND TO BE HOLY AS GOD IS HOLY, WHICH IS IMPOSSIBLE, AND SO WE SIN DAILY. AND WE SHOULD **DAILY** ASK GOD TO FORGIVE US OUR SINS AND PURIFY US FROM ALL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS**!!
I John 1:8-10: If we claim to be without sin {Like Joyce Meyer}, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned we make Him out to be a liar and His Word is not in us!
The **DISCIPLES** asked Jesus, "Lord teach as to pray." Jesus replied **TO HIS DISCIPLES**, "When you pray, say: '**FATHER**, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come. Give us each day our **DAILY** bread. **FORGIVE US OUR SINS**, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us!'"
Joel Osteen told Oprah Winfrey that he does not preach about peoples sins and that he did not condemn homosexuals and THAT THEY WOULD GO TO HEAVEN and were welcome in his Church.
I Corinthians 6:9-11; 18-20: Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers or homosexuals nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor swindlers {Unless they repent} will inherit the Kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God... Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body. Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own, you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with you bodies!
**IF WE DO NOT ASK THE FATHER IN JESUS NAME TO FORGIVE US OUR SINS AND REPENT OF OUR SINS GOD WILL DISCIPLINE US**
Revelation 3:19: Jesus says, "Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline, so be earnest and repent!!"
Hebrews 12:5-11: Do not make light of the Lord's discipline, and do not lose heart when He rebukes you, because the Lord disciplines those He loves, and He chastens **EVERYONE** He accepts as a son! Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as His children. For what children are not disciplined by their father? If you are not disciplined--and everyone undergoes discipline--then you are not legitimate, not true sons and daughters at all. Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live! They disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, in order that we may share in His holiness. No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it!
**JOYCE MEYER AND JOEL OSTEEN TEACH THE PROSPERITY GOSPEL: (Health, Wealth, and Prosperity)
This is a doctrinal position that teaches God�s desire is to make everyone healthy, wealthy, and happy. They teach that: If a person does not obtain that status in life, it must be something wrong with their faith in God. This is very popular on the TBN network and should be rejected according to Scripture.
Joyce Meyer has been documented as stating some very troubling ideas and encouraging people to focus on money and wealth. Take a close look at the following statements:
Joyce Meyer says God has made her rich.{???}
Everything she has came from Him: the $10 million corporate jet, her husband�s $107,000 silver-gray Mercedes sedan, her $2 million home and houses worth another $2 million for her four children,
$20 million headquarters, furnished with "$5.7 million worth of furniture, artwork, glassware, and the latest equipment and machinery," including a "$30,000 malachite round table, a $23,000 marble-topped antique commode, a $14,000 custom office bookcase, a $7,000 Stations of the Cross in Dresden porcelain, a $6,300 eagle sculpture on a pedestal, another eagle made of silver bought for $5,000, and numerous paintings purchased for $1,000 to $4,000 each," among many other expensive items � all paid for by the ministry. The articles prompted Wall Watchers[13] (a Christian nonprofit watchdog group) to call on the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) to investigate Meyer and her family.
Following the adverse publicity about her lifestyle and Ministry Watch's request for an IRS probe, Meyer announced in 2004 plans to take a salary reduction from the $900,000 per year she had been receiving from Joyce Meyer Ministries (in addition to the $450,000 her husband received and instead personally keep more of the royalties from her outside book sales which Meyer had previously donated back to Joyce Meyer Ministries. She now retains royalties on books sold outside the ministry through retail outlets such as Walmart, Amazon.com, and bookstores, while continuing to donate to her ministry royalties from books sold through her conferences, catalogues, website, and television program. "The net effect of all of this," notes Ministry Watch, "was most likely a sizable increase in the personal compensation of Joyce Meyer and reduced revenues for JMM." In an article in the St. Louis Business Journal, Meyer's public relations director, Mark Sutherland, confirmed that her new income would be "way above" her previous levels.
Joyce Meyer claims that all this money and wealth were wonderful gifts from God that were earned and teaches that you should just **NAME IT AND CLAIM IT**!!
**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??
**IS THE PROSPERITY GOSPEL SATANIC? *ARE THERE MANY ETERNAL REWARDS FOR SHARING WITH THE POOR**?
Acts 4:32: All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but **THEY SHARED **EVERYTHING** THEY HAD**!!
Acts 2:44,45: All the believers were together and had everything in common. They sold property and possessions to give to everyone who had need!
Luke 18:20-25: Jesus said to the rich man, "You still lack one thing. Sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have **TREASURE IN HEAVEN**. Then come, **FOLLOW ME**. When he heard this he became very sad, because he was very wealthy. Jesus looked at him and said, "How hard it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God! Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle then for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God!"
James 4:3: When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with the **WRONG MOTIVES**, that you spend what you get on your pleasures.
NOTE: In addition to eternal life Jesus also promised the rich man eternal **ETERNAL TREASURES IN HEAVEN**
I Timothy 6:5-10 There are people of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to **FINANCIAL GAIN**. {Like the Prosperity Gospel of Joel Osteen and Joyce Meyer} But godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing in the world, and we can take nothing out of it. But if we have food and clothing, **WE WILL BE CONTENT WITH THAT**. Those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the **LOVE OF MONEY** is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs!
I John 2:15-17: Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world. love for the Father **IS NOT IN THEM**. For everything in the world--the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life--comes not from the Father but from the world. The world and its desires pass away, but whoever does the will of God lives forever!
James 2:5-7: Listen, my dear brothers and sisters: Has not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be **RICH IN FAITH** and to inherit the kingdom He promised to those who love Him? But you have dishonored the poor. Is it not the rich who are exploiting you! Are they not the ones who are dragging you into court? Are the not the ones who are blaspheming the noble name of Him to whom you belong?
James 5:1-5: Now listen, you rich people, weep and wail because of the misery that is coming on you. Your wealth has rotted, and moths have eaten your clothes. Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against you and eat your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the Last Days. Look!! The wages you failed to pay the workers who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves in the day of slaughter. You have condemned and murdered the innocent one, who was not opposing you!
I Timothy 2:9,10: I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, adorning themselves, not with elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God!
Hebrews 13:5: Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said, "Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you!"
Luke 16:13: Jesus says, " No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money!"
2 Corinthians 6:10: We are poor, yet making many rich; having nothing and yet **POSSESSING EVERYTHING**!{AS per Revelation 21:1-5!!}
2 Timothy 3:1,2,5: But mark this. There will be terrible tines in the last days. People will lovers of themselves **LOVERS OF MONEY**.... lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God--having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people!
I Timothy 6:17-19: Command those who are rich in this present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment. Command them to do good, to be rich in good deeds, and to be **GENEROUS AND WILLING TO SHARE**. In this way they will lay up **TREASURE** for themselves as a firm foundation for the coming age, do that they may take hold of life that is truly life!
Luke 14:33,34: Jesus says, "When you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be **BLESSED**! Although they cannot repay you, you will be **REPAID AT THE RESURRECTION** of the righteous!"
Romans 12:13: Share with the Lord's people who are in need. Practice hospitality.
Ephesians 4:28: Work, doing something useful with your hands, so that you have **SOMETHING TO SHARE** with those in need!
Acts 2:44,45: All the believers were together and had everything in common. They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need!
Acts 4:32: All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but **THEY SHARED **EVERYTHING** THEY HAD**!!
Luke 3:11: Anyone who has two shirts should share with the one who has none, and anyone who has food should do the same!
Luke 29,30,35,36: Jesus says, "If someone takes your coat, do not withhold your shirt from them. Give to anyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back... Love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting anything back. Then your **REWARD WILL BE GREAT**, and you will be children of the Most High, because He is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. Be merciful. just as your Father is merciful!"
Romans 12:20,21: If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink... Do not be overcome by evil, but **OVERCOME EVIL WITH GOOD**!
! John 2:3-5: We know that we have come to know Him if we keep His commands. Whoever says, "I know Him," but does not do what He commands is a **LIAR**, and the truth is not in that person. But if anyone obeys His Word, love for God is truly made complete in them. This is how we know we are in Him!
2 Timothy 3:15,16: 4:1,2: You have known the **HOLY SCRIPTURES**, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. **ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD**!! {**WHICH IS THE ENTIRE NEW COVENANT AND NEW TESTAMENT**!!} be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths!!
**WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY CONCERNING WOMEN PREACHERS SUCH AS JOYCE MEYER AND VICTORIA OSTEEN**??
I Timothy 2:9-15: A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or assume authority over a man, she must be quiet.
I Corinthians 14:34,35: Woman should remain **SILENT IN THE CHURCHES**. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission as the law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home, for it is **DISGRACEFUL** for a woman **TO SPEAK IN THE CHURCH**!
And so Joyce Meyer who claims she **NO LONGER SINS** is living in **CONTINUAL SIN AND REBELLION AGAINST THE WORD OF GOD**!!
**IS THE PROSPERITY GOSPEL SATANIC? *ARE THERE MANY ETERNAL REWARDS FOR SHARING WITH THE POOR**?
Acts 4:32: All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their posessions was their own, but **THEY SHARED **EVERYTHING** THEY HAD**!!
Acts 2:44,45: All the believers were together and had everything in common. They sold property and possessions to give to everyone who had need!
Luke 18:20-25: Jesus said to the rich man, "You still lack one thing. Sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have **TREASURE IN HEAVEN**. Then come, **FOLLOW ME**. When he heard this he became very sad, because he was very wealthy. Jesus looked at him and said, "How hard it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God! Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle then for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God!"
NOTE: In addition to eternal life Jesus also promised the rich man eternal **ETERNAL TREASURES IN HEAVEN**
Luke 19:8,9: Zachaeus stood up and said to the Lord, "Look, Lord! Here and now I give half of my possessions to the poor, and if I cheated anybody out of anything, I will pay beck four times the amount!" Jesus said to him, "Today salvation has come to this house!"
**JESUS PROMISES ETERNAL REWARDS FOR HELPING OR SHARING WITH THE POOR AND NEEDY**!!
Matthew 6:1-4; 19-21: Jesus says, "When you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and the streets, to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret will **REWARD** you!"... "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth where moth and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves **TREASURES IN HEAVEN**, where moths and vermin do not desrtoy, and thieves do not break in and steal. For where your **TREASURE** is, there your **HEART** will be also!"
I Timothy 6:5-10 There are people of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain. {Like the Prosperity Gospel of Joel Osteen} But godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing in the world, and we can take nothing out of it. But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that. Those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the **LOVE OF MONEY** is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs!
I John 2:15-17: Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world. love for the Father **IS NOT IN THEM**. For everything in the world--the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life--comes not from the Father but from the world. The world and its desires pass away, but whoever does the will of God lives forever!
James 2:5-7: Listen, my dear brothers and sisters: Has not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be **RICH IN FAITH** and to inherit the kingdom He prmised to those who love Him? But you have dishonored the poor. Is it not the rich who are exploiting you! Are they not the ones who are dragging you into court? Are the not the ones who are blaspheming the noble name of Him to whom you belong?
James 5:1-5: Now listen, you rich people, weep and wail because of the misery that is coming on you. Your wealth has rotted, and moths have eaten your clothes. Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosian will testify against you and eat your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the Last Days. Look!! The wages you failed to pay the workers who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves in the day of slaughter. You have condemned and murdered the innocent one, who was not opposing you!
I Timothy 2:9,10: I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, adorning themselves, not with elaboate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God!
Hebrews 13:5: Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said, "Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you!"
Luke 16:13: Jesus says, " No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money!"
2 Corintians 6:10: We are poor, yet making many rich; having nothing and yet **POSSESSING EVERYTHING**!
2 Timothy 3:1,2,5: But mark this. There will be terrible tines in the last days. People will lovers of themselves **LOVERS OF MONEY**.... lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God--having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people!
I Timothy 6:17-19: Command those who are rich in this present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment. Command them to do good, to be rich in good deeds, and to be **GENEROUS AND WILLING TO SHARE**. In this way they will lay up **TREASURE** for themsleves as a firm foundation for the coming age, do that they may take hold of life that is truly life!
Luke 14:33,34: Jesus says, "When you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be **BLESSED**! Although they cannot repay you, you will be **REPAID AT THE RESURRECTION** of the righteous!"
Romans 12:13: Share with the Lord's people who are in need. Practice hospitality.
Ephesians 4:28: Work, doing something useful with your hands, so that you have **SOMETHING TO SHARE** with those in need!
Acts 2:44,45: All the believers were together and had everything in common. They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need!
Acts 4:32: All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but **THEY SHARED **EVERYTHING** THEY HAD**!!
Luke 3:11: Anyone who has two shirts should share with the one who has none, and anyone who has food should do the same!
Luke 29,30,35,36: Jesus says, "If someone takes your coat, do not withhold your shirt from them. Give to anyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back... Love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting anything back. Then your **REWARD WILL BE GREAT**, and you will be children of the Most High, because He is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. Be merciful. just as your Father is merciful!"
Romans 12:20,21: If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink... Do not be overcome by evil, but **OVERCOME EVIL WITH GOOD**!
Joyce Meyer has treasure on earth, so her heavenly treasures are emptied out. The reason for this, is because on earth treasures are worldly, material, earthly, unrighteousness.
Heavens treasures are none of the riches here that cankers and turns rusted, because Heaven and its ways are higher than mans earth ways by the distance of Heaven to earth which is a forever and ever distance.
Isaiah 55:9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
James 5:3 Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days.
If yo do not want your treasures to turn to nothing, you need to build up treasures of righteousness within yourself, where the Kingdom of Heaven is, and when Jesus left Heaven, where He was rich, He became poor for our sakes, through Gods love which was, having nowhere to lay His had, being outcasted, persecuted, ridiculed, and this world hating Him, until it killed Him, because that is the response from an unrighteous world against the Kingdom of Heaven when it is amongst them.
Luke 12:33 Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth.
Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
John 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
John 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
1 Timothy 6:18 That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate;
Revelation 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
2 Corinthians 8:9 For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.
There is nothing to look forward to in rewards in Heaven, because the meek already have that Heaven within then, rich in good deeds, ready to distribute and they inherit the EARTH, where riches always and forever will be rusted and nothing but testimony against yourselves..
Matthew 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
When poor you are rich, this is the token of already possessing ALL THINGS, there are no more rewards if you possess all things?
2 Corinthians 6:10 As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.
Acts 3:6 Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk.
If we are able to believe(because all is by faith and faith is the gift of God, not our own faith) Believe in righteousness, that Jesus is the Christ who fulfilled all to take sin and death away from us, then we are born of God, then we are begotten of God who begat us, and we love every one who is also begotten of Him. We love more than loving our Saviour only, we love also everyone equally that He seeks. The ones born of God therefore, sin not, keeping themseles from the wicked one whem everyione sins through that wicked ungodly spirit. He washed us from our sin in His own blood....
1 John 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.
1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
We do need to believe in the covenant, it is the covenant when God takes away our sins. The first covenant had that fault, the people did not love those begotten of the Father, they did not know who the Father was, they had not had the law written in their hearts and minds, no Spirit of Christ filling them with love instead of deceit and greed and lust. The token of these deceivers is they still attempt to teach every man his brother, assuming authority they just do not possess. But the covenant is as told, their sins and iniquities will He remember no more, because He writes the law in their heart, and they do it, which also means they love another before themselves, because God made the covenant this time without fault, which is perfectly in obedience..
Romans 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Hebrews 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
Hebrews 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
Ephesians 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
"The ones born of God therefore, **SIN NOT**" Adam7777 also claims that we are completely sanctified and **NO LONGER SIN** the very moment we are saved.{???}
Joyce Meyer also claims that she **NO LONGER SINS** in this taped message:
�I�m going to tell you something folks, I didn�t stop sinning until I finally got it through my thick head I wasn�t a sinner anymore. And the religious world thinks that�s heresy and they want to hang you for it. But the Bible says that I�m righteous and I can�t be righteous and be a sinner at the same time � All I was ever taught to say was, �I�m a poor, miserable sinner.� I am not poor, I am not miserable and I am not a sinner. That is a lie from the pit of hell. That is what I was and if I still am then Jesus died in vain. Amen?�
**HOWEVER, WE ARE COMMANDED TO **WALK AS JESUS WALKED** {SEE JOHN 2:6} AND TO BE HOLY **AS GOD IS HOLY** {SEEI PETER 1;15,16], WHICH IS IMPOSSIBLE, AND SO WE SIN DAILY. AND WE SHOULD **DAILY** ASK GOD TO FORGIVE US OUR SINS AND PURIFY US FROM ALL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS**!!
The following Words of God are not found in the Bibles of Joyce Meyer and Adam7777:
I John 1:8-10: If we claim to be without sin {Like Joyce Meyer and Adam7777}, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. **IF WE CLAIM WE HAVE NOT SINNED WE MAKE HIM OUT TO BE A LIAR AND HIS WORD IS NOT IN US**!!
Luke 11:1-4: The **DISCIPLES** asked Jesus, "Lord teach as to pray." Jesus replied **TO HIS DISCIPLES**, "When you pray, say: '**FATHER**, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come. Give us each day our **DAILY** bread. **FORGIVE US OUR SINS**, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us!'"
Matthew 18:21,22: Peter asked Jesus, "Lord, how many times shall I forgive **MY BROTHER** who sins against me?" Jesus answered, "I tell you, not seven times but seventy seven times!" {77 times can also be translated 70 times 7 or 490 times!!}
**IF WE DO NOT ASK THE FATHER IN JESUS NAME TO FORGIVE US OUR SINS AND REPENT OF OUR SINS GOD WILL DISCIPLINE US**
Revelation 3:19: Jesus says, "Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline, so be earnest and repent!!"
Hebrews 12:5-11: Do not make light of the Lord's discipline, and do not lose heart when He rebukes you, because the Lord disciplines those He loves, and He chastens **EVERYONE** {Like Peter and David} He accepts as a son! Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as His children. For what children are not disciplined by their father? IF YOU ARE NOT DISCIPLINED AND **EVERYONE** UNDERGOES DISCIPLINE--THEN YOU ARE NOT LEGITMATE--NOT TRUE SONS AND DAUGHTERS AT ALL**!! Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live! They disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, in order that we may share in His holiness. No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it!
Joyce Meter claims she sin not, while gathering loads of wealth.
Other untruthful teachers say she cant do right, cannot stop sinning.
Another opinion , a third view is, if Joyce Meter did have a conscience all of a sudden, can we do all things through Christ who strengthens us, could Joyce Meyer realize the value of everything in this life is as dung, as Apostle Paul showed, who had given all possessions away?
Philippians 3:8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
"If you do not want your treasures to turn to nothing, you need to build up treasures of righteousness **WITHIN YOURSELF**, where the Kingdom of Heaven is."{???}
**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??
John 18:36: Jesus says,, "**MY KINGDOM IS NOT OF THIS WORLD**, if it were my servants would fight to prevent My arrest by the Jewish leaders. But **NOW MY KINGDOM** is from **ANOTHER PLACE**!"
Hebrews 12:27-29: God says, Once more I will shake not only the earth but also the heavens." The words, "Once more" indicate the removing of what can be shaken--that is, created things--so that what cannot be shaken can remain! Therefore, since we are receiving a **KINGDOM THAT CAN NOT BE SHAKEN**, let us be thankful, and so worship God acceptably with reverence and awe, for our God is a consuming fire!
2 Peter 3:10-13: But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief {To unbelievers} The heavens will **DISAPPEAR** with roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be burned up!... That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with His promise **WE** are looking for a **NEW HEAVEN** and a **NEW EARTH**, where righteousness dwells!
Revelation 21:1-5: Then I saw a **NEW HEAVEN** and a **NEW EARTH**for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the **NEW JERUSALEM**, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. An I heard a loud voice from the Throne saying, "Look! God's dwelling place is now among the people and He will dwell with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away. He who was seated on the Throne said, "I am making **EVERYTHING NEW**!" Then He said, "Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true!!"
2 Peter 1:11: You will receive a rich welcome into the **ETERNAL KINGDOM** of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!
2 Timothy 4:18: The Lord will bring me safely to his **HEAVENLY KINGDOM**. To Him be the glory for ever and ever! Amen!
I Corinthians 15:50-52: I declare to you brothers that **FLESH AND BLOOD CAN NOT ENTER **THE KINGDOM OF GOD**, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will **ALL** be changed--in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the Last {And 7th} Trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed!!
Adam7777 and Joyce Meyer and Satan want you to believe that every time believers sin they are really not saved and should not continually ask forgiveness for their sins to get back in a close relationship with God; and that they should not continually seek **ETERNAL REWARDS** in the **HEAVENLY KINGDOM** for faithful and loving service!!
**SALVATION IS 100% FREE** BUT ETERNAL HEAVENLY REWARDS ARE 100% EARNED**!!
**SALVATION IS 100% FREE**!!
Titus 3:3,4: At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another. But when the kindness and **LOVE** of God our Savior appeared , He saved us, **NOT BECAUSE OF RIGHTEOUS THINGS WE HAD DONE**, but because of **HIS MERCY**!!
John 1:12,13: To all who received Him, to those who believed in His name, he gave the right to become children of God--children born not of natural descent, **NOR OF A HUMAN DECISION** or a husband's will but, **BORN OF GOD**!!
John 6:37,39,44,65: Jesus says, "**ALL** that the Father gives Me **WILL** come to Me, and whoever comes to Me I will **NEVER** drive away... And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall **LOSE NONE** of all that He has given Me, but raise them up at the Last Day.... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father who sent Me **DRAWS HIM**, and I will raise him up at the Last Day!!... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father has **ENABLED THEM**!!"
Ephesians 2:8,9: For it is by **GRACE** you have been saved, through **FAITH**�and this **NOT FROM YOURSELVES**, it is the **GIFT OF GOD**�not by works. So that no one can boast. For we are **GOD'S WORKMANSHIP**, created in Christ Jesus to do **GOOD WORKS**, which God prepared in advance for us to do!
Romans 12:3: For by the **GRACE GIVEN ME** I say to every one of you. Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourselves with sober judgment, in accordance with the **FAITH GOD HAS DISTRIBUTED TO EACH OF YOU**... We have different gifts, according to the **GRACE GIVEN TO EACH OF US**!!
John 15:16: Jesus says, "You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you so that you might go and bear fruit--fruit that will last!!
Romans 9:15,16,18: God says, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion." It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God's mercy...Therefore God has mercy on whom He wants to have mercy, and He hardens whom He wants to harden. {But God's saints still preach God's Word to everyone}
Revelation 17:14: They will wage war against the **LAMB**, but the **LAMB** will triumph over them because He is Lord of lords and King of kings--and with Him will be His **CALLED**, **CHOSEN** and **FAITHFUL** followers!
**AND SO SALVATION IS 100 PERCENT **FREE** but **ETERNAL REWARDS** are 100 percent **EARNED**!!
Ephesians 6:8: Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not men, because you know that the Lord will **REWARD** everyone for what ever good he does!
Revelation 22:12 Jesus says, �Behold I am coming soon! My **REWARD** is with Me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done!�
Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, �The Son of Man is going to come in His Father's glory with His angels and THEN He will **REWARD** each person according to what he has done!�
Luke 11:33,34: Jesus says, "Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a **TREASURE** IN HEAVEN** that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. For where your **TREASURE** is, there your **HEART** will be also!"
Luke 14:13,14: Jesus says, "When you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be **BLESSED**. Although they cannot repay you will be **REPAID AT THE RESURRECTION** of the righteous!"
2 Corinthians 5:9,10: We make it our goal to please Him... for we must all appear before the Judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.
1 Corinthians 3:13-15: His work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work. If what he has built survives, he will receive his **REWARD**. If it is burned up he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames.
How to Win Heavenly CROWNS:
I Corinthians 9:24-27: Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes in to strict training. They do it to get a **CROWN** that will not last; but we do it to get a **CROWN THAT WILL LAST FOREVER**! Therefore I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize!
2 John 1:8: Watch out that you do not lose what you have worked for, but that you may be **REWARDED** fully!.
Revelation 3:11: Jesus says, �I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your **CROWN**!�
2 Timothy 4:7,8: I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. Now there is in store for me the **CROWN** of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day�and not only to me, but also to all who have longed for His appearing!
The **CROWN** of Life for those who persevere under trials and persecution:
James 1:12: Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will receive the **CROWN OF LIFE** that God has promised to those who love Him!
Revelation 2:10 Jesus says, �Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer... Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the **CROWN OF LIFE**!�
Matthew 5:11,12: Jesus says, �Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your **REWARD** in heaven!�
Hebrews 10:32-36: Remember those earlier days after you had received the Light, when you stood your ground in a great contest in the face of suffering. Sometimes you were publicly exposed to insult and persecution; at other times you stood side by side with those who were so treated. You sympathized with those in prison and joyfully accepted the confiscation of your property, because you knew that you yourselves had better and lasting possessions. So do not throw away your confidence; it will be richly **REWARDED**. You need to persevere so that when you have done the will of God, you receive what He has promised!
Joyce Meyer preaches that this world is your Heaven, for she teaches be rich here.
Another teacher tells us that we should look for Heaven to be just like this earth, and the rewards this world can give you, you can get in Heaven instead.
A third way is, Heaven is within us, and that is why the riches and considerations of this life are empty, because their value is nothing, they fade away as does our life.
Heaven is everlasting, where the Lord God who is from everlasting dwells, God has to give Is Kingdom of Heaven to us, where there is righteousness and no sin, so we can live by incorruption, instead of this world that only has corruption.
This is exactly why Meyer preaches corruption mixed with incorruption, to make the hearer believe you can have both.
Exactly why another teacher tells us we can look for riches to Heaven.
Both fall flat, when we know assuredly the Kingdom of Heaven, yes Jesus Christ is in us, as we all know very well, it is told everywhere, Jesus Christ is un is the hope of glory and that is the Kingdom of Heaven within us which hs no use or reward or this worlds money, only the good gentle true Spirit of the Lord and Spirit of life so we no longer live badly, as the temple of the Lord has nothing to do with idols which is covetting..
Colossians 3:5 Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:
2 Corinthians 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Colossians 1:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
"Choosing one over another only means the person thought they knew better" !??
Adam7777 also teaches that it is wrong ad evil to want Heavenly Rewards Treasures and Crowns in heaven for faithful and loving service!??
**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??
**SALVATION IS 100% FREE** BUT ETERNAL HEAVENLY REWARDS ARE 100% EARNED**!!
**SALVATION IS 100% FREE**!!
Titus 3:3,4: At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another. But when the kindness and **LOVE** of God our Savior appeared , He saved us, **NOT BECAUSE OF RIGHTEOUS THINGS WE HAD DONE**, but because of **HIS MERCY**!!
John 1:12,13: To all who received Him, to those who believed in His name, he gave the right to become children of God--children born not of natural descent, **NOR OF A HUMAN DECISION** or a husband's will but, **BORN OF GOD**!!
John 6:37,39,44,65: Jesus says, "**ALL** that the Father gives Me **WILL** come to Me, and whoever comes to Me I will **NEVER** drive away... And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall **LOSE NONE** of all that He has given Me, but raise them up at the Last Day.... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father who sent Me **DRAWS HIM**, and I will raise him up at the Last Day!!... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father has **ENABLED THEM**!!"
Ephesians 2:8,9: For it is by **GRACE** you have been saved, through **FAITH**�and this **NOT FROM YOURSELVES**, it is the **GIFT OF GOD**�not by works. So that no one can boast. For we are **GOD'S WORKMANSHIP**, created in Christ Jesus to do **GOOD WORKS**, which God prepared in advance for us to do!
Romans 12:3: For by the **GRACE GIVEN ME** I say to every one of you. Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourselves with sober judgment, in accordance with the **FAITH GOD HAS DISTRIBUTED TO EACH OF YOU**... We have different gifts, according to the **GRACE GIVEN TO EACH OF US**!!
John 15:16: Jesus says, "You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you so that you might go and bear fruit--fruit that will last!!
Romans 9:15,16,18: God says, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion." It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God's mercy...Therefore God has mercy on whom He wants to have mercy, and He hardens whom He wants to harden. {But God's saints still preach God's Word to everyone}
Revelation 17:14: They will wage war against the **LAMB**, but the **LAMB** will triumph over them because He is Lord of lords and King of kings--and with Him will be His **CALLED**, **CHOSEN** and **FAITHFUL** followers!
**AND SO SALVATION IS 100 PERCENT **FREE** but **ETERNAL REWARDS** are 100 percent **EARNED**!!
Ephesians 6:8: Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not men, because you know that the Lord will **REWARD** everyone for what ever good he does!
Revelation 22:12 Jesus says, �Behold I am coming soon! My **REWARD** is with Me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done!�
Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, �The Son of Man is going to come in His Father's glory with His angels and THEN He will **REWARD** each person according to what he has done!�
Luke 11:33,34: Jesus says, "Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a **TREASURE** IN HEAVEN** that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. For where your **TREASURE** is, there your **HEART** will be also!"
Luke 14:13,14: Jesus says, "When you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be **BLESSED**. Although they cannot repay you will be **REPAID AT THE RESURRECTION** of the righteous!"
2 Corinthians 5:9,10: We make it our goal to please Him... for we must all appear before the Judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.
1 Corinthians 3:13-15: His work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work. If what he has built survives, he will receive his **REWARD**. If it is burned up he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames.
How to Win Heavenly CROWNS:
I Corinthians 9:24-27: Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes in to strict training. They do it to get a **CROWN** that will not last; but we do it to get a **CROWN THAT WILL LAST FOREVER**! Therefore I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize!
2 John 1:8: Watch out that you do not lose what you have worked for, but that you may be **REWARDED** fully!.
Revelation 3:11: Jesus says, �I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your **CROWN**!�
2 Timothy 4:7,8: I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. Now there is in store for me the **CROWN** of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day�and not only to me, but also to all who have longed for His appearing!
The **CROWN** of Life for those who persevere under trials and persecution:
James 1:12: Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will receive the **CROWN OF LIFE** that God has promised to those who love Him!
Revelation 2:10 Jesus says, �Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer... Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the **CROWN OF LIFE**!�
Matthew 5:11,12: Jesus says, �Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your **REWARD** in heaven!�
Hebrews 10:32-36: Remember those earlier days after you had received the Light, when you stood your ground in a great contest in the face of suffering. Sometimes you were publicly exposed to insult and persecution; at other times you stood side by side with those who were so treated. You sympathized with those in prison and joyfully accepted the confiscation of your property, because you knew that you yourselves had better and lasting possessions. So do not throw away your confidence; it will be richly **REWARDED**. You need to persevere so that when you have done the will of God, you receive what He has promised!
Joyce Meyer is not the verified example of the Apostle Paul, and so we can ignore the million teachers today, every one of them, and learn ourselves instead, directly from Christ, in a sincere uncorrupted way...
1 Corinthians 4:15-17 Though you have ten
thousand instructers in Christ you have not many fathers:
for in Christ I have begotten you through the gospel.
Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.
joyce Meyer claims she sins not, which is what we are called to, and what the example of Christ and the Holy Apostles is, anyone speaking and doing differently must be wrong then and avoided..
Phillipians 4:9 Those things you have both learned and received and
heard and
� seen in me do, and the God of peace shall be with you.
The true examples, (not just empty words of false teachers) they were witnesses, how holily and justly and without blame they were in all things, because as testified and told, we are exhorted and charged to walk worthy of Gods Kingdom that is supposed to be within us in Spirit..
1 Thessalonians2:10-12 Ye are witnesses and God also how holily and justly
and unblamably we behaved amongst you that believe: as ye
know how we exhorted and charged every one of you, as a
father doth his children, that ye would walk worthy
� of God, who hath called you unto his kingdom and glory.
Some here think the Apostles walked after the flesh, but, they cast down every imagination that comes up against the Holy righteous knowledge of Christs ways, and thy brought to obedience every thought to servant of Christs love, and not sin hatred against your brother..
2 Corinthians 10:2-3,5 Some think we
walk after the flesh, though we walk in the flesh, we do not
war after the flesh. Casting down every imagination, and
every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of
God, and bringing into captivity every
� thought to the obedience of Christ.
So Apostle Paul, a Holy Apostle exercised himself to always be clear in conscience and without offence to any man ever..
Acts 24:16 I exercise
myself to have always a good conscience void of offence
toward God and man.
Apostle Paul walked orderly keeping the law of Christ,if anyone behaves and supports disorderly actions, withdraw from even hearing them, as the Apostles never behaved disorderly among the believers, because they made themselves a just example to follow..
Acts 21:24 Thou [Paul] also walkest
orderly and keepest the law. 2 Thessalonians 3:6-7 Withdraw
from every disorderly brother and follow us as we behaved
not disorderly among you. We make ourselves an example unto
you to follow us.
If the Holy Apostles did as some here insist, after seeking to be justified by Christ, then afterwards are sinners, that opinion is saying Christ is the minister of sin. We cannot build Holiness after we do unholiness..
Galatians 2:17-18 If while we seek to be
justified by Christ we ourselves are found
� sinners, is Christ the minister of sin? God forbid. For if
I build again the things which I destroyed I make myself a
transgressor. For I through the law am dead to the law, that
I might live unto God.
The Holy Apostles and all true believers n the past, were disobedient, serving self pleasure, with envy and hatred towards their brothers, but now we are commanded and exampled to follow peace and holiness with all men or we never shall see the Lord..
Titus 3:3 We were foolish,
disobedient, deceived, lustful and served pleasure, living
in malice and envy, hateful and hating one another. Hebrews
12:14-17 Follow peace and holiness with all men without
which no man shall see the lord,
Then the beseeching and exhorting continues, added to how we have heard of the perfectly right behavior of the Holy Apostles, ( as an unjust example and teaching is worthless) then we are to increase this way more and more ourselves,to please God not ourselves, the commandment of Gd is Holiness that we sin not, to be obeyed and believed not to be told it is impossible to do as is the so truthful opinion of some here,(it cant be more further form all the truth told but they have no shame) but we have to be in full sanctification and honour, not in fornication, because all the self wicked ways are the unbelievers ways, and all that do ways that are servants of sin, instead of servants of righteousness now, are avenged by God. he unclean way is not called to or exampled anywhere, the teachers in this world cannot how a singular wrong act of any Apostle. When servants of sin they are free from righteousness, and when totally changed, of course then they serve righteousness and are free from sin,. it is one way completely or the other fully, or can it be both as thy lyingly say anyway..
1 Thessalonians 4:1-8 Furthurmore then
we beseech you, and exhort you by the Lord Jesus, that as
you have recieved of us how ye ought to walk and to please
God, so you would abound more and
� more. For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord
Jesus. The will of God is your sanctification, that ye
abstain from fornication: that every one of you should
posess his vessel in sancification and honour, not in the
lust of concupiscence, as the gentiles which know not God,
because the lord is the avenger of all such, as we also have
forewarned you and testified. For God hath not called us
unto uncleaness, but unto holiness. He therefore that
despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath given also
� unto us his holy spirit.
Romans 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
Romans 6:18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
19 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.
20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.
21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.
22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.
Matthew 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
Luke 16:13 No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
ONLY the meek of the earth are exhorted to seek righteousness, and to seek more meekness, as Jesus is that meekness, they believe in Gods judgement, because there is judgement day for the Lords anger..
Zephaniah 2:3 Seek ye the Lord, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the Lord's anger.
They refuse against Gods Spirit, they did not escape, we escape much less. We are saved by grace, BUT, let us have grace whereby we may serve God acceptably, with Godly fear, God is a consuming fire..
Hebrews 12:25 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:
26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.
27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.
28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
29 For our God is a consuming fire.
Double minded men receive nothing, when we lack faith we will receive nothing,..
James 1:5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.
7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.
8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
We need to be exhorted for salvation, that we need to contend for that faith, but certain creepers, who attempt to turn the grace of God into self seeking lust, deny the Lord by works and unrighteousness, not denying the Lord by doing good works, it is crooked works that ensure you will not be saved, but instead destroyed,..
Jude 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.
Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
If you fail to do the will of the Father in Heaven, will salvation be free for you? What also will you earn, what crown will you receive?
Many do call on the name of the Lord, did wonderful works, but worked iniquity=ungodliness/unrighteousness/and all unrighteousness is sin. They also boast themselves, because only denying yourself and humility are without iniquity.
The wise man knows if we hear these sayings of Christ and think we do not NEED to do them, great will be the ruin and fall of us, The fool does not know they MUST be founded upon that Rock which is Christ, MUST obey all His commandments or do differently to how they themselves do in their on lives, they know they must put the work in to achieve something, no pain, no gain, or think money grows on trees and if they wait long enough it would appear..
Psalm 94:4 How long shall they utter and speak hard things? and all the workers of iniquity boast themselves?
1 John 5:17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.(when forgiven sins that are PAST)
Romans 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
Blessed if we hear the words of Christ and keep them, or as the fake teachers say instead, blessed already anyway :)
Revelation 1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
100 percent free, or every single summary for us in Revelation shows we will fail if we believed that lie. Repent shows they are not doing the works required, they are without love..
Revelation 2:4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
Necessary to be faithful till death, Necessary overcome the world. Hear the common message, as it is ONE MESSAGE EVERY SINGLE TIME....
Revelation 2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.
Commanded to repent or their candlestick/reward removed, Jesus even fights against you, if you reduce the warnings given, but if you will hear just what is written there, we are told again and again same message, we need to overcome..
Revelation 2:16 Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.
17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.
Jesus has to search the hearts to find who is faithful to Him, then He gives us what we worked, salvation is 100% free OR, AGAIN, we NEED to hold fast what we have, or it will be removed? Yes we NEED to OVERCOME AND KEEP His works until the END..
Revelation 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. Can anyone hear that the message to the churches is all this way...
24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.
25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.
26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
Revelation 2:29 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
Salvation 100 free, grace and not works? OR, everybody who has began is rebuked to get right, get straight, get true, to be watchful and strenghhen your ways, your beliefs, as they MUST BE PERFECT, so to REPENT, you heard the right way, now be corrected to do the right way, if you refuse to watch, again you are fought against, and He comes on you when you are unaware when it is too late for you. We NEED to be WORTHY, why believe the ones who insist we do not need to be worthy? I see no reason why to believe that any more. Get ears and hear that Jesus says the one same message here to all Again, necessary to overcome this world...
Revelation 3:3 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.
2 Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.
3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
4 Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.
5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
6 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
A little strength means you keep the word of the Lord, no strength is when you have not kept all. We NEED to keep the word of His patience, need to overcome the hour of temptation, can anyone see/hear the ONE message, we NEED to hold fast what we have, OTHERWISE any crown we would have had, would be gone, if we Do NOT also overcome..
Revelation 3:8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.
9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
13 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
If not perfect, or if not completely evil, if you consider you did well, and have riches, comforts, have not lost your life, do not deny yourself from pride, you are blind and have forgotten you were purged from your old sins, rebuked to repent, NEED to OVERCOME, even as Jesus overcame, do you really believe Jesus NEEDED to OVERCOME, and we do not? Hear that the Spirit says the same to all...
Revelation 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
Now plainly repeated to be double sure, you need to add to your faith virtue, and knowledge of Christ for salvation, and temperance for joining the Lord in Holiness, and patience by the things which we MUST suffer, and Godliness instead of iniquity ungodliness, and kindness to the ones you used to hate and hurt, and charity to not self seek, these things NEED to be in us, even abounding within us, to know Jesus Christ, and if you lack these things, it is 100 % one hundred percent assured you are blind and even though your sins were purged you forgot this when you believed you needed to do nothing..
2 Peter 1:5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.
10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall: