:waving:...I have started my own Thread not in defense of me�for I need none�The LORD is my defense and Truth is Truth�let the people decide for I am asked not to interact or make comments on this persons posts or articles�.xo
"This generation will not pass away until all these things have happened" in Matthew 24:34 explained!!
Posted : Posted : 20 Aug, 2013 07:52 AM
According to google ar.voicefive.com is a comp. virus. Again, what's that have to do with anything in this post?
Also, since you like to twist and manipulate things, please explain where I said the Word of God was irrelevant? I said that nothing in your entire cut and paste post was relevant to the point that we are NOT the 14th generation.
Now, I am formally and publicly requesting that you do not interact with me here any further. This would include any more comments on my posts or articles.
FOR THE RECORD
An Open Letter - To All Of Those Whom I have Interacted With Here
Posted : Posted : 17 Aug, 2013 12:10 PM
Brothers and Sisters,
I know that some of you have been hurt and/or negatively impacted by previous interactions with you in these forums. For this, I would like to openly and publicly apologize.
I believe that our Most Sovereign Lord has brought all of our paths together here for His purposes. At times, crossing paths with some of the individual members here has brought out some of the ugliness that still exists inside my own heart. It's a most blessed mirror that God has caused me to look into and to see my own reflection more clearly.
For all of the knowledge and wisdom of the Bible that our precious Father has granted me, I am afraid that I still face a major deficit of charity and love towards others but most especially those with whom I disagree. By God's grace and mercy, I pray that this might not continue to be the case in the future.
...A contention does not mean I hate anyone or am acting unloving toward you.
Revelation 2
4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
14 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumbling block before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.
15 So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes, which thing I hate.
20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.
Revelation 3
3 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.
2 Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.
3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
I just did stand up against bad behavior if you really read what I wrote, but I'm well aware of where most of the instigation is coming from. If people would not be using the most offensive insult toward Christians("you're not saved", "you're not a true christian", "you're a false teacher", "you are an idolater"), there would be much less strife on this forum. And I just did notice that you did not answer my question. As far as Christianity through history, if you think that volumes and "time" mean that we've arrived at all bible truth, I think you should reconsider. I presume you would not agree with the doctrines of the dark ages(indulgences, popery, etc), and I presume you would agree with the reformers on most points. Therefore, I believe you would affirm that the church has been contaminated and is still coming out of doctrinal confusion(or getting worse in my opinion), especially since God warns of great deceptions in the last days, and is still calling his people out of Babylon at that time.
"Go ahead and do it. Show it point by point. Show how my beliefs reject God's sovereignty, exalt man's free will, exalt man at all, deny man's total depravity, and so on down the list."
Michael, you asked "What do you feel about me?" So, I would like to provide you an honest answer. I think you are a wolf in sheep's clothing. Pure predator.
I dont know whats been said by some here as Im skipping over some...has this question been answered yet ???...Ifin not then maybe that is the answer...probably this thread has run its course...and we all just need to move on and forward...thanxs everyone for your input...Teach...LTM...Mark...and of course Donna and IWA...its been really In-Lightening and I've learned alot...God's Blessing to Everyone!!!...xo
Do you think that Godsjude, or LTM, or TruthCarrier, or myself, is lost and reprobate simply because of the belief in free will?
However, Jesus told his followers that they WOULD KNOW THE TRUTH. In addition, one mark of the Elect is that they "believe the truth" and another is that they "love the truth". The Elect will worship God in spirit and in truth.
Having said that, I believe what the Word of God teaches.
"Jesus told his followers that they WOULD KNOW THE TRUTH. In addition, one mark of the Elect is that they "believe the truth" and another is that they "love the truth". The Elect will worship God in spirit and in truth."
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Love for God and love for the brotherhood. Love for neighbor is different, i am kind and loving to all people. Until i am attacked, and my God and family are attacked, then it is all out spiritual warfare.
You've set up a strawman argument in your statement which will misrepresent anything I submit that disagrees with your points. The question is, are you sure your points are correct in the first place? Are you as sure as Saul was before he became Paul?
"A straw man argument is one that misrepresents a position in order to make it appear weaker than it actually is, refutes this misrepresentation of the position, and then concludes that the real position has been refuted."
However, Jesus told his followers that they WOULD KNOW THE TRUTH. In addition, one mark of the Elect is that they "believe the truth" and another is that they "love the truth". The Elect will worship God in spirit and in truth.
Having said that, I believe what the Word of God teaches."
Ok, but what about the letters to the churches that Paul wrote? And the prophetic letters in revelation? Both Paul and Jesus are attempting to correct error in the church that people didn't see on their own. God constantly talks about rebuking and chastening and correcting his people, which He attempted throughout the history of Israel. So, the fact that we don't believe exactly the same on every point should not label us as wolves, correct? Apparently God's people can have things wrong. Enter Saul before he became Paul. Apparently, under your beliefs, we're predestined as part of God's people before we're born, and "Saul" had to have Jesus knock him off his horse before he realized he was wrong, and he wasn't just "wrong", he was executing the saints of God.
Romans 14
"2For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. 3Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him. 4Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand."
"Love for God and love for the brotherhood. Love for neighbor is different, i am kind and loving to all people. Until i am attacked, and my God and family are attacked, then it is all out spiritual warfare."
Teach already posted this, but maybe it will get thru this time. It's not talking about neighbors, it's not talking about brothers and sisters, it's talking about enemies.
Romans 12
14 Bless them which persecute you:bless, and curse not. 15 Rejoice with them that do rejoice, and weep with them that weep. 16 Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits. 17 Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men. 18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. 19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath:for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. 20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink:for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head. 21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
Luke 9
53And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem. 54And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? 55But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of. 56For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.
