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Abraham believed God and it was counted to be so.
Posted : 14 Sep, 2016 06:11 AM

"What then shall we say that Abraham our father has found according to the flesh? 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say? �Abraham *believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.� 4 Now to him who works, the wages are not counted as grace but as debt. 5 But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness, 6 just as David also describes the blessedness of the man to whom God imputes righteousness apart from works: 7 �Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven, and whose sins are covered; 8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord shall not impute sin.�

*The Greek word is pisteuo (Strong's G4100) which is translated into the English word believed.

"pist-yoo'-o; from G4102; to have faith (in, upon, or with respect to, a person or thing), i.e. credit; by implication, to entrust (especially one's spiritual well-being to Christ):�believe(-r), commit (to trust), put in trust with."

�He who *believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." John 3:18 The word believe in John 3:18 is the same root word from Romans 4:3

The English word repent comes from 8 different Greek and Hebrew words. Make sure you know which Greek or Hebrew word is being used, and make sure you use the correct meaning for each word. To say you must repent is to say nothing, as there are so many different meanings. You must not simply fall back on the word repent as a coverall, for every situation.

1 Corinthians 14 is crystal clear about the necessity of giving a clear message: "But now, brethren, if I come to you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you unless I speak to you either by revelation, by knowledge, by prophesying, or by teaching? 7 Even things without life, whether flute or harp, when they make a sound, unless they make a distinction in the sounds, how will it be known what is piped or played? 8 For if the trumpet makes an uncertain sound, who will prepare for battle? 9 So likewise you, unless you utter by the tongue words easy to understand, how will it be known what is spoken? For you will be speaking into the air."

If you use the single English word "repent", and are not specific with regard to the original word in its proper context, you will be speaking, as it says in this passage, to the air, and not unto men, because no one will know what exactly you are trying to say.

The most common appearance of the English word repent in the New Testament, comes from the Greek words metaneo and metanoia. The root word means to change your mind. It does not mean be sorry or turn from sin. The change of mind that needs to occur is a change from unbelief to belief. Again, see John 3:18. This is the "biblical repentance" necessary for salvation.

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Posted : 2 Oct, 2016 10:11 AM

"WE ARE SAVED BY FAITH WHICH IS THE FREE GIFT OF GOD--NOT BY WORKS SO THAT NO ONE CAN BOAST!!"



WHILE ADAM7777 teaches that you are saved by good works and keeping OT laws.



Ephesians 2:4-10: Because of His great love for us, God,, who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions--it is **BY GRACE** you have been saved! And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with Him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, in order that in the coming ages He might show the incomparable riches of His grace, expressed in His kindness to us in Christ Jesus. For it is **BY GRACE** you have been saved, through faith-- and this **NOT FROM YOURSELVES**, it is the **GIFT** of God--**NOT BY WORKS**, so that no one can boast. FOR WE ARE GOD'S WORKMANSHIP, CREATED IN CHRIST JESUS TO DO **GOOD WORKS**, WHICH GOD PREPARED IN ADVANCE FOR US TO DO!!



Everyone agrees that "**FAITH** without **GOOD WORKS ** is dead!" as per James 2:17. However, the reason that God's born again from above saints do good works is **NOT TO BE SAVED** but to bring **MUCH PRAISE** to our Father and Jesus Christ and to gain countless **ETERNAL REWARDS** for faithful and loving service.



Matthew 5:16: Jesus says, "Let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and **PRAISE YOUR FATHER IN HEAVEN**!!"



Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, �The Son of Man is going to come in His Father's glory with His angels and THEN He will **REWARD** each person according to what he has done!�



2 Corinthians 5:9,10: We make it our goal to please Him... for we must all appear before the Judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive **WHAT IS DUE HIM** for the things done while in the body, whether good or **BAD**.



ADAM 7777 teaches that if a believer does one small **BAD** like thinking an evil thought or looking at a woman with lust you will surely go to hell even if you repent???. And so there will be **NO ONE** in heaven including ADAM7777!!!



1 Corinthians 3:13-15: His work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work. If what he has built survives , he will receive his **REWARD**. If it is burned up he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames.



Colossians 3:23-25: Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for men, since you know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as a **REWARD**. It is the Lord Christ you are serving. Anyone who does wrong will be repaid for his wrong, and there is no favoritism.



I Corinthians 9:24-27: Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes in to strict training. They do it to get a **CROWN** that will not last; but we do it to get a **CROWN THAT WILL LAST FOREVER**! Therefore, I do not run like a man running aimlessly. I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize!



2 John 1:8: Watch out that you do not lose what you have worked for, but that you may be **REWARDED** fully!.



Titus 3:3,4: At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another. But when the kindness and **LOVE** of God our Savior appeared , he saved us, **NOT BECAUSE OF RIGHTEOUS THINGS WE HAD DONE**, but because of **HIS MERCY**!! {Adam 7777 totally disagrees with these inspired words of God!!}



Romans 11:5,6: At the present time there is a remnant **CHOSEN BY GRACE**! And if by grace it is **NO LONGER BY WORKS**; if it were, grace would no longer be grace!! {ADAM7777 totally disagrees with these inspired words of God!!}



Romans 9:30-32: What then shall we say? That the Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have obtained it, a righteousness that is **BY FAITH**; but Israel, who pursued a law of righteousness, has not attained it Why not? Because they pursued it **NOT BY FAITH** but as it were by works!!



Romans 4:5-8: To the man who does not work but trusts God who justifies the wicked, **HIS FAITH** is credited as righteousness. David says the same thing when he speaks of the blessedness of the man to whom God credits righteousness **APART FROM WORKS**: "Blessed are they whose transgressions are forgiven, whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man whose sin the Lord will **NEVER COUNT AGAINST HIM**!!" {Psalm 32:1,2} {ADAM7777 totally disagrees with these inspired words of God!!}



Ephesians 1:5-8: In love He predestined us to be adopted as His sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with His pleasure and will--to the praise of His **GLORIOUS GRACE**, which He has freely given us in the One He loves. In Him we have **REDEMPTION THROUGH HIS BLOOD**, the **FORGIVENESS OF SINS**, in accordance with the riches of God's grace that He lavished on us with all wisdom and understanding!



John 3:3: Jesus says, I tell you the Truth, no one can see the Kingdom of God **UNLESS HE IS BORN AGAIN!!"



John 1:12,13: To all who received Him, to those who believed in His name, he gave the right to become children of God--children born not of natural descent, **NOR OF A HUMAN DECISION** or a husband's will but, **BORN OF GOD**!!



John 6:37,39,44,65: Jesus says, "**ALL** that the Father gives Me **WILL** come to Me, and whoever comes to Me I will **NEVER** drive away... And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall **LOSE NONE** of all that He has given Me, but raise them up at the Last Day.... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father who sent Me **DRAWS HIM**, and I will raise him up at the Last Day!!... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father has **ENABLED THEM**!!" {ADAN7777 totally disagrees with these inspired words of God!!}



Romans 829-33,35,38,39: For those God foreknew He also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of His Son...And those He **PREDESTINED**, He also called; those He **CALLED**, He also justified; those He **JUSTIFIED** He also **GLORIFIED**. What shall we say in response to this? If God is for us, who can be against us? He who did not spare His Son but gave Him up for us all--how will He not also give us all things? Who will bring any charge against those **WHOM GOD HAS CHOSEN**? It is God who justifies. Who is he who condemns... Who shall separate us from the love of Christ?... For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels or demons, neither the present or the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord!!



Galatians 3:23-25: "Before faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be **JUSTIFIED BY FAITH**. Now that faith has come, *WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!" {ADAM7777 totally disagrees with these inspired words of God!!}



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Posted : 4 Oct, 2016 02:50 PM

I was a missionairy in Israel and it is quite comical how the Orthodox Jews try to keep the OT Sabbath laws. One OT law states that you should not light a fire during the Sabbath and anyone who **LIGHTS A FIRE ON THE SABBATH MUST BE PUT TO DEATH** as per Exodus 35:2,3. This would of course mean that any Eskimo who lights a fire to keep from freezing to death must be put to death.



Exodus 31:12,15: The Lord said to Moses... "Whoever does **ANY WORK** on the Sabbath **MUST** be put to death!!"



John 5:8-11: Then Jesus said to him, "Get up Pick up your mat and walk!" At once the man was cured; he picked up his mat and walked. The day on which this took place was a Sabbath, and so the Jews said to the man who had been healed, "It is the Sabbath and the **LAW FORBIDS** you to carry your mat!"



Luke 13:15: Jesus said, "You hypocrites! Doesn't each of you on the Sabbath untie his ox or donkey from the stall and lead it out to give it water?"



Mark 2L23,24,27: One Sabbath Jesus was going through the grainfields, and as His disciples walked along, they began to pick some heads of grain. The Pharisees said to Him, "Look, why are they doing what is **UNLAWFUL** on the Sabbath?" ... Then Jesus said to them, "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath!!"



Matthew 12:11,12: Jesus said , "If any of you has a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will you not take hold of it and lift it out?... Therefore **IT IS LAWFUL TO DO GOOD**{WORK} on the Sabbath!"



Whereas in the OT in Exodus 31:12,15: The Lord said to Moses... "**WHOEVER** does **ANY WORK** on the Sabbath **MUST** be put to death!"



Since car motors have pistons that continually light fires the Orthodox Jews will not drive their cars on the Sabbath but the 7th Day Adventists drive cars to their churches on the Sabbath so according to OT Sabbath laws all SDA members should be put to death. A Sabbath days walk is only about 2/3rd's of a mile so you must not walk or travel over 2/3rd's of a mile on the Sabbath.{As per Acts 1:12}



Now in Israel most utilities burn coal which of course lights a huge fire so the Orthodox Jews turn on their lights and heaters a few minutes before the Sabbath begins??? But of course all the Jews and SDA's who do this are increasing the amount of coal utilities burn thus increasing the fires set during the Sabbath.



The last time the NT saints kept the Sabbath was the day before The resurrection of Jesus as per Luke 23:55,56. The NT saints worshipped and witnessed every day and so every day was the Lord's Day especially TODAY.



Acts 2:44-46: All the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need. ***EVERY DAY*** they continued to meet in the temple courts.



SOME GREAT TIPS FOR 7TH DAY ADVENTISTS AND TNT WHO WANT TO KEEP THE OT SABBATH LAWS:



***If someone commits the unpardonable sin of driving their car to church on the Sabbath thus starting thousands of piston fires just drop a cyanide pill in their Communion cup!!

Remember, to keep from sinning you can always go to church on a horse and buggy!!



***If someone puts their lights or electric heater on {To keep from freezing to death} during the Sabbath thus starting Utility coal burning fires just burn their house down; but wait until a minute after the Sabbath to start the fire!!!



***It would be wise to move to an area where you will not freeze to death during the winter such as South Georgia which is the same Longitude as Israel!!!



***If you live over 2/3rd's of a mile from your church or a Sabbath Days travel just come to your church a minute before the Sabbath starts {Be sure and bring a cot} since you cannot leave until a minute after the Sabbath ends. You could also stay at a friends house which is 1/3 of a mile from the church so you can go *ROUND-TRIP* on the Sabbath!!



*** If you do not want to obey the above tips you can always join another church which doesn't believe you have to obey OT Sabbath laws!!!



Galatians 2:14-16: Paul said, When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter in front of them all, "You are a Jew, yet you live like a Gentile and not like a Jew. How is it, then that you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs? We who are Jews by birth and not 'Gentile sinners' know that a man is NOT justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified.!"



Galatians 2:20,21: The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me. I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!"



Galatians 3:10-13: "All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law." Clearly no one is justified before God by the law, because, "The righteous will live by faith." The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, "The man who does these things will live by them." Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us!



Galatians 3:23-25: "Before faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, *WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!"



Hebrews 8:8,9,13: "The time is coming." says the Lord, "when I will make a New Covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah".... By calling this Covenant "NEW", He has made the first one OBSOLETE; and what is OBSOLETE and aging will soon disappear."



Hebrews 8:6: But the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which He is Mediator is SUPERIOR TO THE OLD ONE, and it is founded on better promises.



Colossians 2:16,17: Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you **EAT** or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or **A SABBATH DAY**. These are a *SHADOW* of the things that were to come, the reality, however, is found in Christ!!!



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Posted : 6 Oct, 2016 03:30 PM

WHAT ARE THE 8 PASSAGES IN GOD'S WORD WHICH SHOW THE EXACT TIME PERIOD OF THE GREAT TRIBULATION IMMEDIATELY BEFORE THE 2ND COMING OF JESUS??



There are 8 time periods mentioned in God's Word which show the exact tme period of the Great Tribulation which will end on the Last Day at the Second Coming of Jesus. A 1260-day tine period is mentioned 2 times in Rev 12:6 and Rev 11:3. A 42-month time period is mentioned 2 times in Rev 13:5 and Rev 11:2. A time period of time, times and half a time is mentioned 3 times in Daniel 7:25, Daniel 12:7 and Rev 12:14. And the last half of the last 7 is implied in Daniel 9:27a.which would be the 8th time period.



By comparing Rev 12:6 and Rev 12:14 we know that 1260 days and time {360 days}, times {720 days} and half a time {180 days} is the exact same period of time since 720 days plus 360 days plus 180 days also add up to exactly 1260 days.



By comparing Rev 13:5 with Daniel 7:25 we know that 42 months and time {12 months}, times {24 months} and half a time {6 months} is the exact same period of time since 12 months plus 24 months plus 6 months also add up to exactly 42 months.



And so 1260 days and 42 30-day months and time {360 days or 12 30-day months} times {720 days or 24 30-day months} and half a time {180 days or 6 30-day months} are the exact same period of time. And so all 7 time periods mentioned are exactly 1260 days which would be the exact time period of the Great Tribulation and the rule of 666 and the time period of the witness of Moses and Elijah during the 1260-day Great Tribulation.



Note: 666 is called the Beast 36 times in Revelation. By comparing Rev 13:5-7 and Daniel 7:25 we can know that 666 will rule for 42 months which is also time, {12 months} times {24 months} and half a time {6 months} in Daniel 7:25.



Which brings us to the 8th and last time period mentioned in Daniel 9:27a which is the last 7 of the 70 7's prophecy mentioned in Daniel 9:24-27.



Daniel 9:24-25: 70 7's {Or 490 years} are decreed for your people to finish traansgression and put an end to sin, to **ATONE FOR WICKEDNESS** {On April 5 AD 33}, to bring in **EVERLASTING RIGHTEOUSNESS** {On the Last Day of the 490 years or 70 7's} From the issuing of the decree {By King Cyrus} to rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One comes, there will be 7 7's and 62 7's. {Which is 69 7's or 483 years!}



The Coming and Anointing of the Anointed One took place in AD 29 and is recorded in John 1:29 and Matthew 3:13-17:



John 1:29: The next day John saw Jesus **COMING** toward him and said, "Look, Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!!"



Matthew 3:13-17: Jesus came from Galilee to the Jordan to be baptized by John....As soon as Jesus was baptized, He went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and lighting on Him. And a voice from heaven said, "This is My Son, whom I love, with Him I am well pleased!"



This Comiing and Anoiting of the Anointed One took place exactly 483 years or 69 7's after the decree of Cyrus to rebuild Jerusalem.



Daniel 9:26: The Anointed one will be cut off {When He **ATONED FOR WICKEDNESS** on April 3-5, AD 33} And the **ATONEMENT FOR WICKEDNESS ** must be in included in the 70 7's which took place about 3 1/2 times in the middle of the Last 7 after His **COMING** which happened after 69 7's. And that completes 69 1/2 7's of the 70 7's prophecy and leaves 3 1/2 times in the future.



Daniel 9:27 tells us about the last 7 of the 70 7's in this amazing prophecy:



Daniel 9:27: He {the Anointed One} will confirm a Covenant with many for one 7. In the *MIDDLE** of the {Last}** 7** {After 3 1/2 times} He will put and **END** to sacrifice and offering {On April3-5, AD33 the Anointed One put an end to all sacrifices for sin. And in the future He will set up an abomination that causes desolation {For 1260 days} until the end that is decreed is poured out on him. {On the Last Day of the 1260 day Great Tribulation as per Rev 19:20 & 2 Thess 2:8 & Daniel 7:26}



Hebrews 10:11-18: Day after day every priest performs his religious duties again and again he offers the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. But when this Priest had offered for all time **ONE SACRIFICE FOR SINS**, He sat down at the right hand of God... Because by **ONE SACRIFICE** He has made ***PERFECT FOREVER*** those who are being made holy. The Holy Spirit also testifies to us about this. First he says: "This is the **COVENANT** I will make with them after that time says the Lord. I will put My laws in their hearts, and I will write them on their minds." The he adds" Their sins and lawless acts I will remember **NO MORE**." And when these have been forgiven , there is **NO LONGER ANY SACRIFICE FOR SIN**!!



What is the meaning of Daniel 9:27a: "He {The Anointed One} will confirm a Covenant with many for one 7."??



Jesus confirmed in Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21 and Revelation chapters 6-19 that there would be a 42-month or 1260-day Great Tribulation; {which is also 3 1/2 times} immediatedly before His 2nd Coming; for Jesus said in Revelation 22:16: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony **FOR THE CHURCHES!"



And Jesus gave us a New Covenant for 1220 days before His Resurrection which was from December 2nd, AD 29 to April 5th, AD 33; and in the 40 days after His Resurrection until His Ascension into heaven which would be at total of 1260 days or 42 30-day months or time times and half a time which is also 3 1/2 times.



Acts 1:3: He appeared to them over a period of 40 days and spoke about the kingdom of God.



3 1/2 times plus 3 1/2 times equals exactly 7 times and so the Anointed One did confirm a Covenant with many for 7 times which is the last 7 of the 70 7's Prophecy.



Daniel 7:25-27: He will speak against the Most High and oppress His saints...The saints will be handed over to him for time, times and 1/2 a time {Which is 42 months or 1260 days} But the court will sit, and his power will be taken away and completely destroyed forever. {as per Rev 19:20 & 2 Thess 2:8} Then the sovereignty, power and greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven will be handed over to the saints, the people of the Most High. His kingdom will be and **EVERLASTING** Kingdom!! (And Daniel 9:24 confirms that "70 7's are decreed to bring **EVERLASTING RIGHTEOUSNESS!!



Daniel 12:1-3,7b: There will be a time of distress such as not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people--everyone whose name is found written in the Book--will be delivered. Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to **EVERLASTING** life, others to shame and everlasting contempt. Those who are wise will shine like the brightness of the heavens, and those who lead many ro righteousness, like the stars for ever and ever... It will be for time, times and half a time { Which is also 42 months or 1260 days}**ALL** these things will be **COMPLETED**!!



Revelation 13:5-8: The beast will be given to exercise his authority for 42 {30-day) months {Or 1260 days}.. He will be given power to make war against the saints and to conquer them. And he will be given authority over **EVERY** tribe, people, language and nation. All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast--all whose names have not been written in the Book of Life belonging to the LAMB who was slain.



2 Thessalonians 2:8: Then the lawless one will be revealed.[for 42 monThs] whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of His mouth and destroy by the splendor of His Coming.



Daniel 9:24 confirms that 70 7's have been decreed... to **ATONE FOR WICKED NESS** and Daniel 9:25 confirms that 69 7's of the 70 7's were totally completed at the Coming of the Anointed One in AD 29; and Daniel 9:27a confirms that half of the last 7 or 3 1/2 times was totally completed when the Anointed One ""ATONED FOR WICKEDNESS** and put an **END TO ALL SACRIFICES FOR SIN** in the middle of the Last 7, which was about 3 1/2 times **AFTER** His Coming and Anointing!!



It is interesting to note that 3 1/2 times, which is also 42 months or 1260 days; is the only end-time period mentioned in the book of Revelation or the NT. If there was supposed to be a 7 year or 7 time end-time period immediately before the 2nd Coming of Jesus; it would have certainly been mentioned in Revelation or the NT!!



There are many who wrongly interpret Daniel 9:27a and believe that there will be a 7 year time period immediately before the 2nd Coming of Jesus and that 666 will put an end to all animal sacrifices in a rebuilt Jerusalem Temple in the middle of the last 7 instead of Jesus putting an end to all sacrifices in the middle of the last 7 with His atoning sacrifice as per Daniel 9:27a.



WILL THE RESURRECTION OF GOD'S NT SAINTS COME BEFORE OR ON THE LAST DAY OF THE 1260- DAY GREAT TRIBULATION??



And then there are many who wrongly believe that there will be a pre-trib secret resurrection of the NT saints at the 2nd coming of Jesus just before the beginning of a 7 year Tribulation; and then another resurrection of the OT saints and Tribulation saints on the Last Day of a 7 year Tribulation at a 3rd coming of Jesus.



Matthew 24:3,9-13,29,30: The disciples asked Jesus, "What will be the sign of Your Coming and the End of the age? Jesus answered...Then you will be handled over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by **ALL NATIONS** because of Me. At that time many will turn away from the fairh and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved... **IMMEDIATELY AFTER** the distress of those days the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken. At that time the Son of Man will**APPEAR** in the sky, and all the nations will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect from the 4 winds, from one end of the heavens to the other!" {Luke 21:28 adds "When these things begin to take place stand up and lift up your hands, because your redemption is drawing near!!"}



2 Thess 1:1,6-10: �To the *CHURCH* of the Thessalonians�God is just; He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you and give relief to you who are troubled, and to us as well. This will happen *WHEN* the Lord Jesus is *REVEALED* from heaven in blazing fire�. He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They will be punished with **EVERLASTING DESTRUCTION** and shut out from the presence of the Lord *ON THE DAY HE COMES* to be glorified in His holy people!!�



The above passage absolutely disproves the pre-trib fairy tale since all of the lost will be resurrected on the same day all the NT saints are resurrected!!



Colossians 1:2; 3:4: To the holy and faithful brothers in Christ.... When Christ, who is your life, **APPEARS**, then you will also **APPEAR** with Him in glory!



Titus 2:13: **WE** wait for the **BLESSED HOPE**--the glorious **APPEARING** of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ!!



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Posted : 9 Oct, 2016 03:32 PM

The Roman Catholic Church believes:



To be born again is to be baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The soul goes into the state of grace, the effects of original sin are washed away, and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit occurs. This is why infants should be baptized as soon as possible after birth.



And ADAM7777 teaches that you are born again by doing good works and obeying all of the OT laws???



BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY???



John 3:3: Jesus says, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the Kingdom of God unless he is **BORN AGAIN**!!"



John 1:12,13: To all who received Him, to those who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God--children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision, or a husband's will, but **BORN OF GOD**!



QUESTION: Do infants receive Jesus and believe in His name???



Romans 19:8-10: The Word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart, that is, the **WORD OF FAITH** we are proclaiming: That if you **CONFESS WITH YOUR MOUTH, "Jesus is Lord," and be believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your **MOUTH** that you **CONFESS** and are saved!!



QUESTION: Do infants believe in their hearts and confess Jesus with their mouths???



I John 5:3,4: Everyone who is **BORN OF GOD** overcomes the world. This is the victory that overcomes the world, **EVEN OUR FAITH**.



QUESTION: Do infants overcome the world with their **FAITH**???



John 6:37,39,44, 65: Jesus says, "All that the Father gives Me **WILL** come to Me, and whoever comes to Me I will **NEVER** drive away!... For My Father's will is that everyone who **LOOKS TO THE SON AND BELIEVES IN HIM** shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the Last Day!... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father **DRAWS** him. and I will raise him up at the Last Day!... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father has **ENABLED** him!!"



QUESTION: Do infants look to the Son and believe in Him???



I Peter 1:22-25: Now that you have purified yourselves by obeying the Truth so that you have sincere love for your brothers, love one another deeply from the heart. For you have be **BORN AGAIN**, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring **WORD OF GOD**. For, all men {Including popes} are like grass, all their glory is like the flowers of the field; the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the **WORD OF THE LORD STANDS FOREVER**. And this is the Word that was preached to you!!



QUESTION: Are infants **BORN AGAIN** through the living and enduring **WORD OF GOD** or by some Roman Catholic Priest sprinkling water on him???





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