Atheism is a religion some just don�t understand the definition and atheism and humanism often times are tied together.
Humanism, would be a right way of thinking if it was true but it is the worst lie someone can convince themselves of.
Some just think that religion stands for a Christian point of view. It is a belief system "a way of believing� so they get tied up in the word religion and don�t want to identify themselves with it.
We all believe in something it's whether you believe in Christ or not that will lead you to salvation.
PROVERBS 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
When the Lord was talking to His people He told them the right way to believe so that they would live a great life. But like the Jewish people in the past we also want to do things our way and I will not exclude myself.
When you�re not in Church learning more about the way God wants you to live you will be in the world living the way you want to live.
JOSHUA 22:5 But take diligent heed to do the commandment and the law, which Moses the servant of the LORD charged you, to love the LORD your God, and to walk in all his ways, and to keep his commandments, and to cleave unto him, and to serve him with all your heart and with all your soul.
Our heavenly Father created man and He loves you and wants the best for you. Here is a sample prayer, If you�re not saved ask God for salvation in Jesus Christ�s Name. Have faith in what your praying and you will be saved.
�God I know that I have sinned against you and am deserving of punishment. But Jesus Christ took the punishment that I deserve, so that through faith in Him I could be forgiven."
"Jesus Christ, with your help I place my trust in you for salvation, and I ask that you will forgive me of my sins. I thank you for your wonderful grace and forgiveness.�
Come and tell a Christian church you have asked for salvation and they will help you grow in Christ. Come to Sunday school you will find it to be a great reward.
good grief George, where does it say in his post that we are to live under the law, we are to be seperaete from the world the new testiment says so as well as the old so what in the world are you talking about, dont start in on him and run him off before he even gets to know us! He didnt say one thing about living under the law in fact he said that the prayer to get saved should say Jesus I trust you for my salvation, that is the exact oppoisit of being uner the law! Good gravy you just like to argue
He did NOT say we can be saved by obeying the Law, he said we are to cling to it and try to obey it.
Notice he even said we are saved by GRACE through FAITH:
""Jesus Christ, with your help I place my trust in you for salvation, and I ask that you will forgive me of my sins. I thank you for your wonderful grace and forgiveness.�
Christians today have a bad attitude towards the Ten Commandments (God's Law) and they need to change their attitude on this, and START studying and meditating on the Ten Commandments.
Yes, are not UNDER the law, because the law showed us we cannot obey it, but that STILL does not mean we are to ignore it!
Jesus' Sermon on the Mount is just applying nine of the ten commandments INTERNALLY.
The Law of God is YOU, Christian, and you were created to obey it, and you should study it and meditate upon it, and try to obey it outwardly AND inwardly.
I will show you as the the reason of my Question to Hawkins.
Afterwards you could rip me a new you know what,OKAY.
Hawkins has written:
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Posted : 1 Jan, 2012 06:36 PM
Atheism is a religion some just don�t understand the definition and atheism and humanism often times are tied together.
Humanism, would be a right way of thinking if it was true but it is the worst lie someone can convince themselves of.
Some just think that religion stands for a Christian point of view. It is a belief system "a way of believing� so they get tied up in the word religion and don�t want to identify themselves with it.
We all believe in something it's whether you believe in Christ or not that will lead you to salvation
Hawkins
PROVERBS 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
Farmer
Most 'christians' do not understand this Scripture.
They just read the english and take this to be a PROMISE YHWH,that 'IF' they raise their children in a so-called 'christian' home,then the child will be a believer in Yeshua.
YHWH is not obligated to saving anyone.
If the child is saved by the parents upbringing,then Yeshua died in VAIN.
This is not a PROMISE of YHWH,but rather telling parents to be observing their how their children are able to be learning.
For as the child grows and matures they will be learning in the same ways.
There are four ways which people learn, Yeshua taught the people all four ways.
I will be posting the Scriptures and they ways in which people learn.
Hawkins
When the Lord was talking to His people He told them the right way to believe so that they would live a great life. But like the Jewish people in the past we also want to do things our way and I will not exclude myself.
Hawkins
When you�re not in Church learning more about the way God wants you to live you will be in the world living the way you want to live.
Farmer
Each and every individual is responsible to be reading and studying the Word of YHWH for Himself / Herself.
We are in the world ,not of the world.
Hawkins it sounds as though you expect people to be taking refuge from the world in the 'church'.
And that people are dependant upon a man to be teaching them the Word of YHWH.
Is this true?
Hawkins:
JOSHUA 22:5 But take diligent heed to do the commandment and the law, which Moses the servant of the LORD charged you, to love the LORD your God, and to walk in all his ways, and to keep his commandments, and to cleave unto him, and to serve him with all your heart and with all your soul.
Farmer
elisha do you now see that Hawkins is writing about OBEYING the law.
He might be a fundamentalist,in his beliefs.
Hawkins
Our heavenly Father created man and He loves you and wants the best for you. Here is a sample prayer, If you�re not saved ask God for salvation in Jesus Christ�s Name. Have faith in what your praying and you will be saved.
�God I know that I have sinned against you and am deserving of punishment. But Jesus Christ took the punishment that I deserve, so that through faith in Him I could be forgiven."
"Jesus Christ, with your help I place my trust in you for salvation, and I ask that you will forgive me of my sins. I thank you for your wonderful grace and forgiveness.�
Come and tell a Christian church you have asked for salvation and they will help you grow in Christ. Come to Sunday school you will find it to be a great reward.
Shalom
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Posted : 2 Jan, 2012 07:51 AM
Hello Hawkins:
Are you saying that people are STILL to be living under the law?
Shalom
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Posted : 2 Jan, 2012 08:27 AM
good grief George, where does it say in his post that we are to live under the law, we are to be seperaete from the world the new testiment says so as well as the old so what in the world are you talking about, dont start in on him and run him off before he even gets to know us! He didnt say one thing about living under the law in fact he said that the prayer to get saved should say Jesus I trust you for my salvation, that is the exact oppoisit of being uner the law! Good gravy you just like to argue
Farmer
elisha you seem to have problems with me asking people questions as to what they are saying and believing..
If more so-called 'christians' were half as concerned as i have been as the Holy Spirit gives me this concern.
Maybe,just maybe the 'christians would get off from the couch,stop watching the dope operas,and the sports channels,
And begin proclaiming the Gospel with their neighbors.
Maybe when the meet together they would be asking one another wht the Holy Spirit has been revealing to them of the Word of YHWH.
Instead they come as though they are part of a country club.
george, your manner is ofensive and cold maybe you should work on that people reject what you say because of the way you say it, yourr question to hawkins was one of those questions that are really more like saying out rite someone is wrong
James I didnt think he was saying that at all, I was telling george the same thing you said , re read my post
