Author	Thread: really eill someone lplease give me their opinion on this subject? I am convined we will not actuly be getting a mansion as we think of them, but the word mansion is represintitive of our new bodies! I mean what would I need with a big ole house in heaven I just want to be with Jesus I dont care one thing about a mansion!
elishabroadway View Profile History	really eill someone lplease give me their opinion on this subject? I am convined we will not actuly be getting a mansion as we think of them, but the word mansion is represintitive of our new bodies! I mean what would I need with a big ole house in heaven I just want to be with Jesus I dont care one thing about a mansion! Posted : 5 Jan, 2012 08:54 PM Are the "mansions" Jesus is preparing for us actual buildings in which we will dwell while in heaven? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Email Received: Jesus indicated that He would be leaving to go prepare a "mansion" for each of those who believe in Him. Do you think these "mansions" are literal buildings in heaven that we eventually will live in, or something else? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ted's Response: Here is how that passage is quoted in the King James version of the Bible: In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. (John 14:2,3�KJV) People generally conceive of a "mansion" as a giant home, in which is located everything we ever could want or need. Ideally, it would be a place of ultimate contentment and fulfillment. Many people actually spend years�or sometimes the rest of their lives�in their mansions without ever leaving them. If the "mansions" of which Jesus spoke are physical structures, then it might seem, to some, that all the believers who have died are dwelling in them right now in heaven. And it also might seem that those who are resurrected and/or caught up at the Rapture event would be dwelling in them, in heaven, through the remainder of the 70th Week, until the second advent of Jesus back to earth. However, Jesus indicated that wherever He is, we would be in the "place" He has prepared for each of us. After He returns back to earth, to rule and reign, then how could we be in our "mansions" in heaven if He is on the earth, yet we are to be wherever He is? I do not believe that our "mansions" are great big physical structures, which will be brought to earth when we return with Him from heaven, at His second advent. I believe that they are "heavenly" only in the sense that they have been (or will be) manufactured in heaven and will be located in heaven until He appears in the clouds. Now consider the following description by Paul: Now we know that if the earthly tent we live in is destroyed, we have a building from God, an eternal house in heaven, not built by human hands. Meanwhile we groan, longing to be clothed with our heavenly dwelling, because when we are clothed, we will not be found naked. For while we are in this tent, we groan and are burdened, because we do not wish to be unclothed but to be clothed with our heavenly dwelling, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life. (2 Corinthians 5:1-4) This seems to indicate that each of us actually will be clothed with our own "eternal house" or "heavenly dwelling," which now is in heaven, but which Jesus will bring with Him when He comes in the clouds. It will not be a structure that we will enter and exit as we would a building, such as the home in which we live here on earth. Rather, it will be something that will be with us all the time. In the same passage, Paul also spoke of an "earthly tent" in which we presently live. He noted that after it is destroyed, then we will have a "building" from God, our "eternal house." What, then, could our "earthly tents" be other than our bodies of flesh and bones, within which our spirits and souls presently dwell? Do not our physical bodies clothe our spirits and souls? I believe they do. Describing what will occur at the Rapture event, Paul wrote, For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: "Death has been swallowed up in victory." (1 Corinthians 15:52b-54) I believe that the "eternal house" of a believer will be the glorified, imperishable, immortal body which will "clothe" the believer's spirit and soul for eternity. A believer's present "body of death" (Romans 7:24b), indeed, will be transformed into, or "swallowed up" by (1 Corinthians 15:54; 2 Corinthians 5:4), his/her resurrection body (1 Corinthians 15:42-44). That everlasting body will be at least as much superior to a physical, earthly body as a mansion is greater than a tent. It will be a perfect, glorious body, made in heaven, with which each of us will be clothed, and in which we will dwell, happily serving God eternally. Post Reply
Devotedlove47^ View Profile History	really eill someone lplease give me their opinion on this subject? I am convined we will not actuly be getting a mansion as we think of them, but the word mansion is represintitive of our new bodies! I mean what would I need with a big ole house in heaven I just want to be with Jesus I dont care one thing about a mansion! Posted : 6 Jan, 2012 05:58 AM And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. Rev. 21:1-3 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb�s wife. And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, Rev. 21: 10 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honor into it. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. And they shall bring the glory and honor of the nations into it. And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb�s book of life. REV. 21: 22-27 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him: And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads. And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever. REV. 22: 1-5 AS I SAID BEFORE, IT IS ALL ABOUT PERCEPTION YOUR PERCEPTION OF FUTURE EVENTS IS INACCURATE The problems we have in understanding the things of God, lie clearly in our willingness to commit wholeheartedly to the words of God, which he ordain for our learning and understanding. We say we believe in Him with our mouths, but in our hearts, we habor reservations, the moment we run into some of the deep and secret things of God, which are far above our threshhold of understanding at the time. Instead of humbling ourselves to this fact, we then act out our ignorance of not knowing, through proud debates of cynicism against the unknown truths of God. We become skeptics and critics of the Word, while at the same time, professing to be wise to the ways of God. Thus, we become like the Pharisees, having the form of Godliness, but denying his sovereign power and authority. Satan knows this, and uses those reservations against us, to snatch away the Word from our hearts, with hopes of voiding our citizenship in the Kingdom of God, which God before the foundation of the world, predetermined that we would have the opportunity to inheirit. This is what Jesus was attempting to convey when he stated that a little leaven, leavens the whole lump. Resentments, disagreements, controversies, and problems with the will and way of God, manifest themselves in the form of evil speaking, false systems of perception, doctrinal error, and disbelief. No man, when he hath lighted a candle, putteth it in a secret place, neither under a bushel, but on a candlestick, that they which come in may see the light. The light of the body is the eye: therefore when thine eye is single, thy whole body also is full of light; but when thine eye is evil, thy body also is full of darkness. Take heed therefore that the light which is in thee be not darkness. If thy whole body therefore be full of light, having no part dark, the whole shall be full of light, as when the bright shining of a candle doth give thee light. Luke 11:33-36 SELAH Post Reply
Devotedlove47^ View Profile History	really eill someone lplease give me their opinion on this subject? I am convined we will not actuly be getting a mansion as we think of them, but the word mansion is represintitive of our new bodies! I mean what would I need with a big ole house in heaven I just want to be with Jesus I dont care one thing about a mansion! Posted : 6 Jan, 2012 06:09 AM The preceding post was written in reference to the following statement: I do not believe that our "mansions" are great big physical structures, which will be brought to earth when we return with Him from heaven, at His second advent. I believe that they are "heavenly" only in the sense that they have been (or will be) manufactured in heaven and will be located in heaven until He appears in the clouds. Post Reply
elishabroadway View Profile History	really eill someone lplease give me their opinion on this subject? I am convined we will not actuly be getting a mansion as we think of them, but the word mansion is represintitive of our new bodies! I mean what would I need with a big ole house in heaven I just want to be with Jesus I dont care one thing about a mansion! Posted : 6 Jan, 2012 07:19 AM firsdt of all I didnt make that statement, that is an article, I did make a statement earlier about the subject but nobody eplied, my ponjt was this I think our mansions will be our new incoruptable bodies, not a big house, thats what this article was about! I said Jesus referd to his body as a temple and he told the story of the house swept clean the house was actuly a body, now if he calls our earthly bodies a house wouldnt it be acurate to compare our new bodies heavenly bodies to a mansion! My perception of future events is just fine, except this part, I dont care about a mansion all I care about is Jesus! I dont know whgat in the world you are talking about! You quoted a bunch of scripture from revelation and as I said vefoire it doesnt mention any houses so you argued with me said I was wron ghtemn posted scripture that supports what I was trying to say! I didnt make that statement but what the author was saying is Jesus said I go to prepare a place for you, now the author ws trying to say that he didnt think Jesus went to heaven and built a bunch of housaes that wil come down with the new jeruselum he was saying he thought we will get our new bodies in the rapture and those will be our mansions! You didnt hel me at all you didd not give me your opinion if the mansons will be houses or new bodies??/ Please address that point! I would like you ropinion on that, not my perception of future events, you took that statement out of the context it was in,He was saying that if thay were houses thats whow we would have to get them they would have to come down from heaven with the new city, he said Jesus said where I am you will be also doesnt that sound like a body not a house! Doesnt our spirits dwell in our bodies, so wouldnt our new mansion really be where our spirits live, in a new body? Please someone reply to this I know its not interesting becasue its nothing to argue about! I am about to quit this site seems like everyone wants to argue even this guy above me was trying to find somehing to argue about he tried so hard he took something completly out of context and told me my percption was wrong! Post Reply
View Profile History	really eill someone lplease give me their opinion on this subject? I am convined we will not actuly be getting a mansion as we think of them, but the word mansion is represintitive of our new bodies! I mean what would I need with a big ole house in heaven I just want to be with Jesus I dont care one thing about a mansion! Posted : 6 Jan, 2012 07:25 AM Now Elisha, only believe It is not an opinion it is the truth, Jesus does not do anything small. It is as he said a place to live, my question is will we need a toilet. Post Reply
elishabroadway View Profile History	really eill someone lplease give me their opinion on this subject? I am convined we will not actuly be getting a mansion as we think of them, but the word mansion is represintitive of our new bodies! I mean what would I need with a big ole house in heaven I just want to be with Jesus I dont care one thing about a mansion! Posted : 6 Jan, 2012 07:32 AM yeah pj its a place to live, but maybe no for our bodies to live but our spirits to live! I dont think we will need a toilet..lol I am just saying many many times The Lord referd to a house as a [place whee the spirit dwells so wouldnt that be a body? Post Reply
elishabroadway View Profile History	really eill someone lplease give me their opinion on this subject? I am convined we will not actuly be getting a mansion as we think of them, but the word mansion is represintitive of our new bodies! I mean what would I need with a big ole house in heaven I just want to be with Jesus I dont care one thing about a mansion! Posted : 6 Jan, 2012 07:36 AM Jesus didnt really say a place to live though, what he said was where I am you can be too! so if we are in our own mansion how can we be with Jesus unless its one big mansion where we al llive, but he said hthere are many mansions! So he said he was going to prepare a place fo us that where he is we may be also but we wouldnt be with him in a mansion ,nless thats a new body whee the spirit lives!This is what I think I think it makes kmore sence than a big fancy house! THere is no mention of sleeping I dont see a need for a house and I dont really want one Post Reply
View Profile History	really eill someone lplease give me their opinion on this subject? I am convined we will not actuly be getting a mansion as we think of them, but the word mansion is represintitive of our new bodies! I mean what would I need with a big ole house in heaven I just want to be with Jesus I dont care one thing about a mansion! Posted : 6 Jan, 2012 08:17 AM No but there is plent of room for living, we need to flush out all poverty thinking Post Reply
elishabroadway View Profile History	really eill someone lplease give me their opinion on this subject? I am convined we will not actuly be getting a mansion as we think of them, but the word mansion is represintitive of our new bodies! I mean what would I need with a big ole house in heaven I just want to be with Jesus I dont care one thing about a mansion! Posted : 6 Jan, 2012 12:36 PM yeah but this isnt about poverty or prosperity, after we get home that wont matter anymore, we will be raining with Jeus of core we wont be poor, I am not poor now even in my 1986 double wide and my 1990 dodge truck 4 X4 of corse! I am richer than anyone I know Post Reply
View Profile History	really eill someone lplease give me their opinion on this subject? I am convined we will not actuly be getting a mansion as we think of them, but the word mansion is represintitive of our new bodies! I mean what would I need with a big ole house in heaven I just want to be with Jesus I dont care one thing about a mansion! Posted : 6 Jan, 2012 12:45 PM Elisha prosperity The blessing is to affect every area of our life. What glorify's the lord? It is not to shame any of us where we are, but where the lord wants to take us. How does Royalty live. Did the children of Israel get in trouble with the lord for asking to much of him? Did they get in trouble with him for rejecting his belssing? What did the word of God call an evil report. To answer your question it will be a dweeling place built just for you, not your new body but for you in your new body to dwell. Post Reply
elishabroadway View Profile History	really eill someone lplease give me their opinion on this subject? I am convined we will not actuly be getting a mansion as we think of them, but the word mansion is represintitive of our new bodies! I mean what would I need with a big ole house in heaven I just want to be with Jesus I dont care one thing about a mansion! Posted : 6 Jan, 2012 12:56 PM me and my new body dont want a mansion though!!! Me and my new body will only want to be where Jesus is I couldnt care less about a mansion! Thats alwasy been asomething that I have wondered about, why would Jesus be giving us a mansion if someone is a christian they just want to be with Jesus they arent caring about a mansion, or I dont he said where he is we will be also, if we was in a mansion how can we be with Jesus? Unless he is sat our mansion in which case if he is at my house he cant be at your house PJ, and what about all the times bodys and houses and temples those words are used innerchangeby (hm is that a word?) anyway I just think it seems funny that so many times in the bible bodies are called houses, paul called this earthly body a tent, so what do you think if the are refering to our earthly body as a tent, what would they call our heavenly body? a castle maybe? :ROFL: I am just saying PJ isnt it possible? Even when Jesus told the story of the house swept clean he specificly said the unclean spirit called the mans body that he lived in a house! He said I will go back to my old house! And isnt a mansion just a muchmuch better house? I dunno PJ I called my daddy this morning he seems to agree with me, he said it was obviouse to him and he has been thinking that for a long time Post Reply

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