Thread: Where was The Law Of Sowing and Reaping Spoken?
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Where was The Law Of Sowing and Reaping Spoken?
Posted : 1 Feb, 2012 08:00 PM
Gen 1:22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
Blessed is the word that proclaims prosperity and more.
The animals where first blessed then man.
Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
Gen 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
Gen 1:30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
Part of the blessing to mankind was dominion.
The Hebrew word translated blessing is �barak.� Barak means, �to endue with power for
success, prosperity, fecundity (fruitfulness), longevity etc.�4 Yahweh is the only source of
barak. �His presence confers blessing, and it is only in His name that others can confer
blessing. Indeed, Yahweh�s name, the manifestation of his personal, redemptive, covenantkeeping
nature, is at the heart of all blessing�
You will see this term continually used thru out the Old testament and the you will see it manifest to those that are of faith in Christ after the order of the blessing of Abraham. To the church, You can the blessing in the 28th ch of Deuteronomy.
You will scripture after scripture that reflect the law of increase after the type of seed sown every time.
Agapeton, how are you explaining that the word BARAK in Job and I Kings to also mean or can be used as a curse in scripture? Either the Hebrew word BARAK means blessed or it doesn't.
So please explain how this word can have two meanings one for blessed and another meaning for curse or blesphemey as you have said in these passages?.
Maybe I missed soemthing... Thanks
Job 1:5 When a period of feasting had run its course, Job would make arrangements for them to be purified. Early in the morning he would sacrifice a burnt offering for each of them, thinking, �Perhaps my children have sinned and cursed God in their hearts.� This was Job�s regular custom.
Job 1:9-11 �Does Job fear God for nothing?� Satan replied. 10 �Have you not put a hedge around him and his household and everything he has? You have blessed the work of his hands, so that his flocks and herds are spread throughout the land. 11 But now stretch out your hand and strike everything he has, and he will surely curse you to your face.�
Job 2:5 But now stretch out your hand and strike his flesh and bones, and he will surely curse you to your face.�
Job 2:9 His wife said to him, �Are you still maintaining your integrity? Curse God and die!�
I Kings 21: 9 In those letters she wrote: �Proclaim a day of fasting and seat Naboth in a prominent place among the people. 10 But seat two scoundrels opposite him and have them bring charges that he has cursed both God and the king. Then take him out and stone him to death.�
I Kings 21:13 Then two scoundrels came and sat opposite him and brought charges against Naboth before the people, saying, �Naboth has cursed both God and the king.� So they took him outside the city and stoned him to death
Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap. 8 For the one who sows to his own flesh shall from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit shall from the Spirit reap eternal life
2 Corinthians 9:6-15
6 Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously. 7 Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. 8 And God is able to bless you abundantly, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work. 9 As it is written:
�They have freely scattered their gifts to the poor;
their righteousness endures forever.�[a]
10 Now he who supplies seed to the sower and bread for food will also supply and increase your store of seed and will enlarge the harvest of your righteousness. 11 You will be enriched in every way so that you can be generous on every occasion, and through us your generosity will result in thanksgiving to God.
Proverbs 11:24
Give freely and become more wealthy; be stingy and lose everything
Proverbs 22:8
says, �He that soweth iniquity shall reap vanity: and the rod of his anger shall fail;�
Luke 6:38,
�Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.�
Agapeton, how are you explaining that the word BARAK in Job and I Kings to also mean or can be used as a curse in scripture? Either the Hebrew word BARAK means blessed or it doesn't.
So please explain how this word can have two meanings one for blessed and another meaning for curse or blesphemey as you have said in these passages?.
Maybe I missed soemthing... Thanks
Job 1:5 When a period of feasting had run its course, Job would make arrangements for them to be purified. Early in the morning he would sacrifice a burnt offering for each of them, thinking, �Perhaps my children have sinned and cursed God in their hearts.� This was Job�s regular custom.
Job 1:9-11 �Does Job fear God for nothing?� Satan replied. 10 �Have you not put a hedge around him and his household and everything he has? You have blessed the work of his hands, so that his flocks and herds are spread throughout the land. 11 But now stretch out your hand and strike everything he has, and he will surely curse you to your face.�
Job 2:5 But now stretch out your hand and strike his flesh and bones, and he will surely curse you to your face.�
Job 2:9 His wife said to him, �Are you still maintaining your integrity? Curse God and die!�
I Kings 21: 9 In those letters she wrote: �Proclaim a day of fasting and seat Naboth in a prominent place among the people. 10 But seat two scoundrels opposite him and have them bring charges that he has cursed both God and the king. Then take him out and stone him to death.�
I Kings 21:13 Then two scoundrels came and sat opposite him and brought charges against Naboth before the people, saying, �Naboth has cursed both God and the king.� So they took him outside the city and stoned him to death
ME: Hey, ET.
The word barak. is used in those passages, sister.
This is what it says in Strong's concordance.
H1288
בּרך
bârak
baw-rak'
A primitive root; to kneel; by implication to bless God (as an act of adoration), and (vice-versa) man (as a benefit); also (by euphemism) to curse (God or the king, as treason): - X abundantly, X altogether, X at all, blaspheme, bless, congratulate, curse, X greatly, X indeed, kneel (down), praise, salute, X still, thank.
In relation to the passage PJ posted the word barak means to bless as it is stated, but in the passage you have posted in relation to Job and I Kings the word 'BLESS" is not used as a positive sense as to offer a blessing to someone.
The word bless in the passages you use and if you look at the definition, It states that it is used as an euphemism instead of using the the offensive word "curse God", bless is used which is the same as if I was angry with you and I told you I will bless you out...or someone said man, she blessed hime out real good.
Therefore, the usage of the word "bless" in Genesis is not the same usages as 'TO CURSE OR BLESS God and die, or as used in I kings in the negative sense/tense of the word.
Definition of the word EUPHEMISM1.
(noun) euphemism
a figure in which a harts or indelicate word or expression is softened; a way of describing an offensive thing by an inoffensive expression; a mild name for something disagreeable.
1. (n.) euphemism
the substitution of a mild or indirect expression for one word thought to be offensive or blunt.
Sense: a pleasant name for something that is unpleasant
`Pass on' is a euphemism for `die'.
This is the point of my question of what I was asking as to how you were referencing the defintion you gave to mean in context as related to the passages PJ posted.
ADD ON: The word bless in the passages you use and if you look at the definition, It states that it is used as an euphemism instead of using the offensive word "curse God", bless is used which is the same as if I was angry with you and I told you I will bless(meaning cursed) you out...or someone said man, she blessed (cursed) him out real good.
ET, I posted what the word means. If you have a problem with the definition then take it up with the persons that used the words curse and blaspheme in those verses.
The fact that PJ used verses that gave man dominion before the fall and thereby gave up this "law of sowing and reaping" that PJ is talking about to Satan by making him god of this world and man suddenly sweating to get anything out of the ground after the fall should at least be acknowledged in this topic but it would go on deaf ears. I mean, last I remember was that even the creation itself is still groaning in pains until now in Romans 8. Yet PJ is saying that animals got blessed first then man.
I just dont really think this scripture means what PJ is trying to prove, he is trying to prove something to me, tht if you sow money you wil reap money, and thats true you will reap money if you sow it but if this scripture was to be proving that its the literal sence of sowing into soil I would be taking the day off work wiing out my bank accounts and buying some potting soil!
PJ is always talking about rightly dividing the worsd , but this scripture when it comes to sowing and reaping is about planint food not investing money
BY the way when you sow money into something like a buisness then you will reap money that is true even for the ungodly people of the world
when you sow kndness you will reap kindness from people
but jus because you pay your tithes or bless someone in need does not mean for sure you are going to get a bunch of money back
GOD WILL BLESS YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING
but He also kows your heart and if you go around giving money to the poor or to your crch with the attitutde of making an investment with the sole purpos of getting it back , GOD IS AWARE OF THAT and He wil act acordinly
God is always aware of our hearts condition and how we act thats been my only point onprosperity as far as we are conserned (we a in not the ones who preach the false doctrines markus bishop and keneth copeland and that crew)
I saww a sermon on youtube by markus bishop it was increddible how blatent he was, the entire sermon ws about money and how we are obligated to take vare of the man of God then he went into saying we have all we need to please God and serve God today in otherwords he wsa telling themnot to worry about having money in tomorrow just give all you have right now, and that is biblical Jesus said tke no thought but he wa not saying give avaery thing you have to an already vary rich preacher and dont worry about whether your children are fed or not, there is a balance between being obedient and using wisdom and that man is insistant on people giving everything they have directly to him, I KNOW IT CAUSE I HAVE SEEN IT
and the people that have done it wer destitute because they listened to a man that doesnt have a shred of godlyness inhim
and later was aressted for beating his wife!
This has always been the sin I was refering to , not giving as unto the Lord nd having faith that God is going to provide for us that is biblical if you are doing it with the reight heart and right spirit not out of GREED
Thats allI have said and PJ continues to say I am wrong in what I say and that I am in sin
i am not in sin for pointng out to people who may fall for markus bishops lies (or one like him)
That is not sin and I am the type persdon that gets their feelings hurt over things like that but I have been praying alot about it and I am over having my feelings hurt , I have realized that PHJ for some reason needs to find faulkt in others even those who most the time agree with him and love him,
so he has something going on interenaly and instead of having my feelings hurt with him, I now pity him .
I apoilgize if I have offened anyone I am only trying to point out the deciet not sow strife or whatever else I have been acused of latly I know it a hard pill to swallow when you believe someones intentions are good or maybe you have been readuing their books but these men are wicked and only out to get your money they dont cre about serving God that is plain to see. the truth is the truth whether we like it or not and bisop and copeland are greedy hirelings
