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The Falling Away and the Leavening of the Church
Posted : 7 Apr, 2012 08:25 AM

The Falling Away and the Leavening of the Church



II Thessalonians 2: 3 says "Let no man deceive you by any means for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition."



The falling away of II Thessalonians 2: 3-4 did happen when the Catholic Church was created. But that falling away did not exhaust the prophecy. In the modern timeline, the falling away began at some point in the 19th century, for example in the 1830's when dispensationalism began, or at the time of the Niagra Bible Conferences from 1876 to 1897, when dispensationalism was spread in the United States. Another date that is important for the falling away is 1909 when the first edition of the Scofield Reference Bible was published by Oxford University Press. Luke 13: 21 on the leavening of the church supports II Thessalonians 2: 3-4. That text says "It is like leaven, which a woman took and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened." The word till indicates the leavening occurs over time. The leavening and the falling away of the church does not wait to happen until the tribulation when the dispensationalist church is claimed to be raptured off the earth. It is a process which occurs over a time period.



Dispensationalism is not the only false doctrine involved in the falling away, but it is the most popular. There are a whole bunch of other false doctrines, like the prosperity doctrine, Christian Identity, Rick Warren's Purpose Driven Church, the whole mega Church movement, the bringing of psychology into the church, which is important for the influence of Transformational Marxism in the church, and on and on. The mega church movement depends upon the dialectic church, as does Rick Warren's movement, and the dialectic has invaded the entire evangelical church since 1950.



And - the prophecies of I John 2: 18-19 and I John 4: 3 on the spirit of anti-Christ would predict some form of an anti-Christ movement in the very last days, involving perhaps a joining of dispensationalism, which is under false prophets, to the Hebrew Roots, Sacred Name and Messianic Judaism movements. The latter three movements are anti-Christ in the sense that they overtly mix their version of Christ with some form of the shadows of the Old Covenant ceremonial law.



However, the falling away of II Thessalonians 2: 3-4 can be said to have happened centuries ago when the Catholic Church arrived, and it might be asserted - to protect dispensationalism and the many other present day false doctrines - that the falling away of the Catholic Church is the falling away and exhausts the prophecy, which is false.

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shalom716

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The Falling Away and the Leavening of the Church
Posted : 7 Apr, 2012 07:11 PM

Is this your opinion brother, or is it someone else's?



I don't quite understand why all these groups get categorized, and again I don't agree that messianic judaism should be referred to as an anti-christ doctrine or belief.



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The Falling Away and the Leavening of the Church
Posted : 11 Apr, 2012 08:56 AM

I too truely wonder whether you have understanding of what you are actually writing in your opening post.



You knit, wave and sew groups and streams together, to in the end, simply and without the slightest argument, judge them false....



I have not the time nor interest to really sit down and go over it one by one with you, but allow me to say, that, first of all, you should become aware that the Messiah comes forth of the Old Testament: Christ came to fulfill the prophecies. So theoretically speaking there is and never have been a new convenant, other than that Christ put the only existing and never cancelled convenant in a, for the folks back then thus so far, unrevealed setting.





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