Thread: JOHN CALVIN, born JEAN CAUVIN, WAS A MURDERER AND A HERETIC WHO PERSECUTED "THE LITTLE FLOCK!"!
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JOHN CALVIN, born JEAN CAUVIN, WAS A MURDERER AND A HERETIC WHO PERSECUTED "THE LITTLE FLOCK!"!
Posted : 15 Sep, 2012 03:21 AM
For those of you who claim to be followers of the teachings of "the pope of Geneva", and those of you whom they are trying to twist with their philosophies.
Can you not comprehend that the man Cauvin was a heretic and demonstrated his seed of darkness, by putting 53 people to death?
You cannot possibly show ONE scripture where one of the disciples or apostles were engaged in the business of executing someone.
That is a heretical thought in itself.
You have the same eyes as I do, and the same ability to read as I do, and yet you neither see what I do?
What was Cauvin doing at Geneva, in the first place?
This was not the behavior of �a man walking in the footsteps of the patriarch Abraham�.
Abraham had �no Geneva�, �no city� to call his own, �nothing to defend so as to be engaged in the business of �putting people to death�.
"These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city." [(the Ibri) Ha-Ibrim/Hebrews 11:13-16]
This is one of the most obvious things to me, whenever I hear of Christians and Jews, who while being tied to the �cities�, do try their very best to pretend to be doing the works of Abraham, which is to live the life of Abraham. Abraham's life was the Torah.
This reminds me of the situation wherein Jesus/Yahusha was speaking with the Jews, who had abandoned the patriarchal life, were holed up in one of Satan�s cities, proving that they were not the separated, sanctified ones they were professing to be, but were, as was the case with Cauvin, the very deceived they were declaring everyone else to be. Here Jesus, Whom you declare to be your Master, rebukes the Pharisees for not living as Abraham lived:
�They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.� [Yohanan/John 8:39]
Cauvin, as was the case of the Pharisees, did not live the patriarchal nomadic life, nor follow the Abrahamic customs of all of the patriarchs, as did also the Children of Y�isra�el when they left Egypt.
LOOK AT THIS COMMENT AND SEE THE WORDS OF A MAD MAN WHO WAS MERELY SPEWING DOCTRINS HE HAD ACQUIRED ALONG THE WAY, FOR THIS CERTAINLY PROVES THAT HE DID NOT COMPREHEND THE SCRPTURE.
This I quote from his own hand, and your post, as written from a deprived and deranged mind..
�IN A WORD, A HERESY OR SECT, AND THE UNITY OF THE CHURCH � ARE THINGS TOTALLY OPPOSITE TO EACH OTHER. SINCE THE UNITY OF THE CHURCH IS DEAR TO GOD, AND OUGHT TO BE HELD IN THE HIGHEST ESTIMATION, WE OUGHT TO ENTERTAIN THE STRONGEST ABHORRENCE OF HERESY. ACCORDINGLY, THE NAME OF SECT OR HERESY, THOUGH PHILOSOPHERS AND STATESMEN RECKON IT TO BE HONORABLE, IS JUSTLY ACCOUNTED INFAMOUS AMONG CHRISTIANS. WE NOW UNDERSTAND WHO ARE MEANT BY PAUL, WHEN HE BIDS US DISMISS AND AVOID HERETICS.�..?
Here this raving lunatic, engrossed in his own mind, ties �a sect� to �a heresy�, and declares those of a sect� to be �heretics�.
I cannot impress upon the human mind a more important distinction worthy of examination when it comes to Cauvin seeking to justify his warped behavior, then for him to justify murder in his own eyes, by declaring �any of a sect� to be �heretics�..
What sheer lunacy?
These are the words of a man possessed of hell, and so deceived in himself, which proves as Paul was stating to Titus, �BEING CONDEMNED OF HIMSELF�.
�A man that is an heretic after the first and second admonition reject; Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself. Titus 3:10-11�
It was Cauvin�s very involvement in murder and execution which proved that IT WAS CAUVIN WHO �SUBVERTED� AND CAUVIN WHO �SINNETH�, AND CAUVIN WHO WAS THE HERETICK.
Here, since you did not catch this EVIDENCE OF A HERETIC in his warped writings, the Holy Spirit desires for me to show you where Cauvin was WRONG!
Cauvin was a religious man, but not a g-dly man, and whereas he knew some scripture, he obviously did not know enough, for he certainly MISSED THIS ONE.
Here is the scripture which proves the previous statements of Cauvin to have been much of a subversion:
�For we have found this man a pestilent fellow, and a mover of sedition among all the Jews throughout the world, and a ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes:� [Ma'asey/Acts 24:5]
Yes! Paul was �OF A SECT�, and it was because he was declared to be of a �SECT�, too, that he was found strange, declared to be worthy of death, and was ultimately executed.
I want to congratulate you, for you have just agreed with the Pharisees, and enjoined yourselves against the very name of the followers of Jesus, Whom you declare to LOVE SO MUCH, and have agreed that His followers are worthy to be put to death.
It is heresy to state, in light of the scripture, that the believers and followers of Jesus the Messiah, from Natzrat, who are referred to by the designation of �A SECT�, are the very heretics who should be put to death.
In these words of Cauvin, and in his very behavior, we see this scripture fulfilled:
�They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.� [Yohanan/John 16:2]
All true believers everywhere, know that we are "the remnant", "the little flock", and are glad to be of "the sect of the Natzarim":
"But we desire to hear of thee [Paul, again] what thou thinkest: for as concerning this sect, we know that every where it is spoken against. Acts 28:22]
"Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom." [Lukos/Luke 12:32]
JOHN CALVIN, born JEAN CAUVIN, WAS A MURDERER AND A HERETIC WHO PERSECUTED "THE LITTLE FLOCK!"!
Posted : 15 Sep, 2012 10:01 AM
QUOTING NATZARIM:
"He who digs a hole and scoops it out falls into the pit he has made." [Mashal/Proverbs
You fell into the pit you dug for me.
If you are going to be a man of Elohim, you are going to need to learn what true wisdom is, and what the terms "etymology" and "epitemology" mean, and how all words have more than one meaning, before you insert your foot into your mouth up to the hip, and break it off.
The word "sect" has several different meanings, but it does appear that you do not comprehend this.
Do you have a dictionary? What do you have? Is it one of those concise versions, you know, a pocket type, or maybe a Collegiate version?
Throw them away, they are not good enough for the ministry!
Now, for your education, please pay close attention, so you do not miss a thing!
Stop buying all of those cheese-burgers at Mickey Ds and take the money and go and get yourself a real dictionary, a Random House Third New International Dictionary - Unabridged. It will set you back about a hundred bucks, but in the end, you will have in your possession a real dictionary, capable of providing you with the serious word power necessary to serve the Creator. Now you have to make certain that it states "unabridged", or you will not receive every possible meaning that exists regarding a specific word.
Here is what you would have learned, if you had an excellent dictionary like mine."
SECT-
1. a dissenting or schismatic religious body; especially : one regarded as extreme or heretical.
JOHN CALVIN, born JEAN CAUVIN, WAS A MURDERER AND A HERETIC WHO PERSECUTED "THE LITTLE FLOCK!"!
Posted : 15 Sep, 2012 01:24 PM
"Mama says, "Stupid is as stupid does." - Forrest Gump....?
One very wondrous thing about the Torah [the "instruction" of Elohim, is that it is His Word is truth, and all that originates in Whorrywood is a fiction.
A man of Elohim is instructed to never pay attention to fictions, As Elohim is "no respecter of persons", we, also, are to be no respecter of persons, or of heresies and heretics.
I notice that you Calvinists, not one of you, can support Calvin's murder of over 50 people with a scripture...
Let me leave you with one scripture, that sums it all up:
"To the Torah [instruction] and to the testimony [t'uwdah], if they speak not according to this Word, it is because there is no light in them." [Yeshayahu/Isaiah 8:20]
Elohim instructs men to obey Him, and yet you wish to insert "a fiction's [Forrest Gump..?] words" as having an influence upon life?
JOHN CALVIN, born JEAN CAUVIN, WAS A MURDERER AND A HERETIC WHO PERSECUTED "THE LITTLE FLOCK!"!
Posted : 15 Sep, 2012 01:48 PM
nat please use plain english as jesus always spoke in a very simple manner.he did not try to impress others with his knowledge of words. The pharesees always put others down by their education.
a friend once told me it is the way you speak that makes you right or wrong.
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JOHN CALVIN, born JEAN CAUVIN, WAS A MURDERER AND A HERETIC WHO PERSECUTED "THE LITTLE FLOCK!"!
Posted : 15 Sep, 2012 03:54 PM
The true irony of this OP's thread is that he wishes to denounce the others as murderers and a heretics while at the same time he goes on "murdering" his brothers and sisters in Christ with his words post after post. This fact seems to elude him all together.
He the same eyes as we do, and the same ability to read as we do, and yet he cannot see what is plain to others.
JOHN CALVIN, born JEAN CAUVIN, WAS A MURDERER AND A HERETIC WHO PERSECUTED "THE LITTLE FLOCK!"!
Posted : 15 Sep, 2012 08:13 PM
According to Natz, english is evil...although he uses it in ever post. He even praises a specific english dictionary right after saying we should never buy a book other than the bible. He seemingly takes pride in the book having a $100 price tag as well. His post are hypocritical and full of double standards all because he wants to tear others down and profess that he alone has truth. Of course, he will tell you that his words come from God but when he can't understand simple statement's like Hendryx's statements on people rejecting the teaching of unconditional election, you can know one thing...he is not always speaking out of the mouth of God. He is a smart guy and no doubt I agree with a decent amount of what he says. He could just use a heavy dose of humble pie. There is a several week history on this board now that when confronted with objections to his posts that he has no answer to....he just doesn't reply or just makes a long post about while not addressing any of the actual objections. You may feel you don't owe us answers, but I submit that if you are going to go around telling everyone else they are wrong...all the while being hypocritical and illogical many times....then you do indeed owe us real answers. I know for a fact that Truth(the poster) doesn't claim to be a Calvinist. Since you hold to the doctrines of grace, is it okay for me to call you a Calvinist? That's what you are doing and it's a double standard.
