Thread: Can a Born Again Christian Vote for Obama??
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Can a Born Again Christian Vote for Obama??
Posted : 3 Nov, 2012 01:27 PM
DO OBAMA'S SPIRITUAL BELIEFS QUALIFY HIM TO BE THE FUTURE FALSE PROPHET OF 666??
Obama does not qualify to be 666 and the possibility of him being the future False prophet of 666 is just an interesting speculation!
Some insight into Obama's "Christianity" comes from an interview he gave in 2004 to Chicago Sun-Times religion editor Cathleen Falsani for her book, "The God Factor: Inside the Spiritual Lives of Public People." According to Falsani, Obama thinks that "all people of faith -- Christians, Jews, Muslims, animists, everyone -- know the same God. And so Obama is popular with people of all faiths and the fact that he is half black and half white makes him more acceptable with people of all colors. Qbama was also asked what SIN is . Obama replied, �Sin is being out of alignment with *MY* values.� ??? So if you do not agree with Obama's values then you are sinning, thus Barack is really claiming to be God!
Falsani states that, "Obama:devil: doesn't believe he, or anyone else, will go to HELL. But he's not sure he'll be going to heaven, either." The False Prophet will certainly teach that you can have your cake and eat it too, and that you will not go to HELL if you receive the Mark of the Beast which will allow you to buy or sell everything. However, Revelation 14:9-11; 19:20 & 20:10 confirm that he and all who receive the mark of the Beast will be tormented day and night forever and ever in HELL!!
Obama:devil: told a crowd at Hocking College that he believes the Sermon on the Mount JUSTIFIES his support for legal recognition of same-sex unions?? Obama approves of same sex romantic and sexual relationships as do his former church, his pastor, and his former (So-called} Christian denomination?? Obama said that the Sermon on the Mount is a *BIG JOKE* since you can't have an army that offers up the other cheek?? Obama also sarcastically said, �Which passages of scripture should guide our public policy? Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is OK and that eating shellfish is an abomination? Or we could go with Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith?"
Obama :devil:supports "strong" civil unions and legal marriage for homosexuals. He claims that restrictions on homosexuals getting married are "discriminatory" and "homophobic." Obama said, �The relationships between two men and two women are just as real and ADMIRABLE as a relationship between a man and a woman.� ??? Obama also endorses abortion on demand � including the barbaric practice of partial-birth abortion.
In a 2007 interview with the New York Times, Barack Hussein Obama:devil: recited the Muslim call to prayer in a perfect Arabic accent, and then went on to say that the Muslim call to prayer was the prettiest sound on earth. Obama quote: �Allah is supreme! Allah is supreme! I witness there is no God but Allah! I witness there is no God but Allah! I witness Muhammed is his prophet!� {??????}? Obama has criticized and made fun of God's Holy Word many times but always refers to the Satanic Koran as the *HOLY KORAN* ??? Obama has also stated that Muslims .are �True worshipers of God�?? On September 11th 2012 four Americans including our ambassador were killed by Muslim terrorists who claimed they were responsible 2 hours after the massacre and have been openly bragging about it ever since. Obama:devil: retaliated by putting a Coptic Christian in jail who made a video which rightly exposes Satanic Muslims and Muhammed who wrote the Koran which states over 100 times that if Jews and Christians do not convert to the Muslim faith they should be killed.
The False Prophet should be hugely popular world-wide. Interesting fact: Obama has greater worldwide popularity than any leader in modern history according to a recent poll in Reader's Digest and was also awarded the Nobel Peace Prize even though he did nothing to deserve it.
Jesus is our Messiah and the Prince of Peace and is called the LAMB 30 times in the book of Revelation. The False Prophet is someone who is like a LAMB according to Rev 13:11b. People from all over the world including Louis Farrakhan {A Muslim leader} have already given Obama this interesting nickname: "THE MESSIAH"!! In a recent poll taken by BBC in September, 2009 about two-thirds or {*66.6%*} of those polled around the world thought Obama would make a great World President!! Obama's world-wide popularity greatly increased when he successfully ordered the death of Osama Ben-Laden on May 1st, 2011.
For the 3rd straight year, in a Gallup Poll; Obama was voted the Most Admired Man in the World by US Citizens: {*1st*} Barack Obama 22 % {*2nd*} George Bush 5 % {*3rd*} Bill Clinton 4 % - Pope Benedict 2 % - Billy Graham 2 % - Glenn Beck 2 %. OBAMAnable now is Commander in Chief and has complete control of the most powerful armed forces in the world.
According to CNS News.com an overwhelming majority, 92 percent, of people in France and 89% of the people in Germany want to see Barack Obama reelected president of the United States. According to the latest BBC poll every nation in the world except Pakistan wants Obama to be reelected!!
666 is called a BEAST 36 {6X6} times in Revelation and the False Prophet is also called a "BEAST" once in Rev 13:11. Obama has nicknamed his presidential limousine "THE BEAST"!! In Revelation 13:11 the False Prophet is called the BEAST of the {PRESENT} EARTH. Whereas all true Christians are looking forward to a new heaven and NEW EARTH as per 2 Peter 3:13: "We are looking forward to a new heaven and a NEW EARTH the home of righteousness." {See Rev 21:1} Obama is the all-time world's greatest champion of EARTH day and saving the PRESENT EARTH from Global Warming, Greenhouse gasses, coal burning, offshore drilling and carbon emissions and he may bankrupt the world in trying to achieve these goals. Will forced skyrocketing gas prices which began with a war in Libya and revolutions throughout the middle East and Europe be the straws that break the camel's back??
God said to Abraham, in Genesis 17:8: �The whole land of Canaan I will be give as an everlasting possession to you and your descendants after you.�
Luke 21:24: Jesus says, �Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.� {Or AD 70 to June 7th, AD 1967?} In 1948 Jordanian Gentiles destroyed 34 of the 35 Jewish synagogues in Jerusalem and kicked almost all the Jews out of Jerusalem. On June 7th, 1967 the Jews took over complete control of Jerusalem for the first time in 1897 years.
Quotes from Obama on May 19th, 2011: �Israel must learn to defend itself **BY ITSELF**!!� �Israel must return to **PRE-1967 BORDERS**!!� Obama would like the Jerusalem borders to go back to their 1948 borders!!Nations from all over the world have heartily agreed with King Obama's 2 statements including the European Union, Russia and the United nations. Obama has also stated that he does not have to abide by the War Powers Act or the Constitution {Concerning Libya} in declaring war thus making Obama a King with the power to declare war against anyone he desires for as long as he desires.
During the Great Tribulation {*666*} and his FALSE PROPHET will be responsible for the death of 2/3 {Which is exactly *66.6 %} of the Jews in the world and the remaining 1/3 will all be saved {Read Zechariah 13:8,9 & Romans 11:25-32}.
And so Obama:devil: meets *ALL of the requirements to be the future False Prophet of {*666*} which makes it a very interesting speculation. So be sure you:angel: only vote for Jesus in the coming election!:bow:
First off, to anyone voting, it doesn't matter who you vote for. They both serve one master and it is not "We the people..."
They serve the Banking Cartels who are actively bankrupting the entire world in order to usher in a "Beast" if you will.
You do not get the Republican or Democratic party nomination unless you are already bought and paid for. Kennedy knew it and stood up to them and ended up in a coffin. Eisenhower was smart enough not to talk about it until is farewell address. Every president since then has been their puppet.
You cannot fight the Beast.
And the whole earth was amazed and followed after the beast; they worshiped the dragon because he gave his authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, �Who is like the beast, and who is able to wage war with him?�
Study "Fractional Reserve Banking", there are many good links to it on YouTube. Here are two good links to get you started.
Fractional Reserve Banking
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWl7Mb49vSk
The Money Masters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDtBSiI13fE
(Starting at Chapter 2 at 11 minutes in, the documentary talks about Christ driving the money changers from the Temple, it's well worth watching just for this glimpse into history)
Peace to all of you and good luck in the coming years!
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Please, no flames...I'm already recovering from 3rd degree burns as it is.
As to Obama being 'The False Prophet'...I view him as a precursor. I don't see him performing signs and false wonders. We'll know it when it happens, if we're alive.
2 Thessalonians 2:9 that is, the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and signs and false wonders, 10 and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved. 11 For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, 12 in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness.
Is Obama A born again Christian? NO! How do we know?
Jesus tells us we shall know them by there fruits.
Matthew 7:16-20 (KJV)
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Galatians 5:22-23 (KJV)
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Ephesians 5:9-11 (KJV)
9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)
10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
So; if Obama is not a born again Christian. We can NOT vote for him.
You might ask; then should we vote for Romney?
NO! He also is not a born again Christian. He supports the just as much evil as Obama.
One case in particular is he would like to bomb Iran, do them harm.
What does the God of creation have to say about this.
Romans 12:17-21 (KJV)
17 Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men.
18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.
19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.
21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
1 Thessalonians 5:14-15 (KJV)
14 Now we exhort you, brethren, warn them that are unruly, comfort the feebleminded, support the weak, be patient toward all men.
15 See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves, and to all men.
1 Peter 3:8-14 (KJV)
8 Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:
9 Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing.
10 For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:
11 Let him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it.
12 For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil.
13 And who is he that will harm you, if ye be followers of that which is good?
14 But and if ye suffer for righteousness' sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled;
Matthew 5:43-44 (KJV)
43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Matthew 10:28 (KJV)
28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
We are instructed to love our enemy not hate or destroy them.
If we render evil for evil we ourselves are become evil.
So how can we vote for an evil man for president of our country? God has never instructed us to vote for man to rule over us.
By voting in an election where there are evil men or woman running for the seat, we become partakers in there evil deeds.
2 John 1:10-11 (KJV)
10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
Are you going to vote and invite one of these men who come with another doctrine a different Gospel message, into your house?
2 Corinthians 11:3-4 (KJV)
3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
Galatians 1:6-9 (KJV)
6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
As a born again Christian, we cannot take part in these elections by voting. We must pray for these people, pray for those that rule this nation.
You just made a statement that the anti-christ will rule for 7 years. Is this something you have fund in your study of the bible or is something you have been taught?
Where is Scripture does it say there will be a 7 year reign of the anti-christ?
You can not use the passage about the one week. This passage has been taken clearly out of context many times over. Nowhere in scriptrue does God ever refer to a day as being anything but a day, a week as being anything but a week, a year and being anything but a year.
Also you can not use the verse stating that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day, in order to make your stand on the one week being more than "one week"
This is clearly stating that time to God does not exist. There is no time laps with God.
Psalm 90:4 (KJV)
4 For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.
I have listened to many preachers and followers of those preachers teach this 7 year tribulation and when asked where in the bible does it tells us of this they do what ever it takes to change the subject. I get most of the time, "I don't have the time right now to go into it".
We are clearly seeing in scripture that; thousand two hundred and threescore days (1260 days)(3 & 1/2 years), forty and two months (3 & 1/2 years), time and times and the dividing of time (3 & 1/2 years), time, times, and an half (3 1/2 years), time, and times, and half a time (3 & 1/2 years) are exactly the same amount of time. The 1260 days is not years. it is clearly days. 42 months is 1260 days, 3 & 1/2 years.
So; please tell me from God's Holy Word alone where do we find this 7 year tribulation?
